Economy firing 'on all cylinders’ as Canada sees best growth in six months

Jinentonix

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Because the stock market isn't that important.
Like the economy you also said isn't important? Man, for a twit who thinks it isn't important, you sure do post a lot about it. :lol:

Now, as to the economy firing on all cylinders, let's look back at a little Trudeau quote. "When the economy is doing well the budget will balance itself". So, let's see if Trudeau's multi-year multi-billion dollar deficit budget magically balances itself at the end of the fiscal year with this smokin' economy. I bet it doesn't.
 

Hoid

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Booming not booking. Students of economics know that stock markets are often seen as a forward indicator of economic growth. A booming market usually means growth of corporate earnings in the next two quarters and vice versa.
Walter my house goes up in value more in a year than I originally paid for it.

All tax free. All completely liquid through a heloc.

The stock market is a joke.
 

Decapoda

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Like the economy you also said isn't important? Man, for a twit who thinks it isn't important, you sure do post a lot about it. :lol:

Now, as to the economy firing on all cylinders, let's look back at a little Trudeau quote. "When the economy is doing well the budget will balance itself". So, let's see if Trudeau's multi-year multi-billion dollar deficit budget magically balances itself at the end of the fiscal year with this smokin' economy. I bet it doesn't.

It's pretty clear that with the perpetual stalling or outright rejection of new pipeline approvals, this has resulted not only in a chill being put on any future investment in resource sector, but also our oil being heavily discounted due to lack of confidence Canada can deliver to market. This is in no small part a consequence of this Liberal Government's complete lack of willingness to support pipelines or stand up against special interest groups who would rather see it stay in the ground, even at the expense of a healthy economy.

I suspect that reality is going to hit Trudeau hard in the upcoming months, the dominoes have already begun to fall, any change in trade agreements resulting from possible renegotiation of NAFTA is going to be the nail in the coffin of our economy. Poor Justine is going to be begging for pipelines, but unfortunately there will be no one willing to take the incredible political risk and put themselves through the proverbial wringer.

Checkmate tater, you moronic, fake-praying, retard...at the expense of the Canadian population.

Financial Post: Pipeline shortage to cost the economy $15.6 billion this year: report
 

Decapoda

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The Liberals approved the pipeline.

Tater said "it will go through"

Too little, too late. Any idea how long it takes to lay a pipeline, genius? That's after machines start moving, haven't seen anything happen yet....still waiting....

Lack of pipelines and massive discounts for Canadian heavy oil could cost the economy $15.6 billion this year, or three-fourths of a point from the country’s GDP, according to economists at Scotiabank.

The 15.6 billion figure is conservative. I've heard as high as 19 billion.

All the fake-praying in the world won't help tater get the pipe in the ground faster.
 

petros

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Walter my house goes up in value more in a year than I originally paid for it.

All tax free. All completely liquid through a heloc.

The stock market is a joke.

It's not tax free. There are no taxes on stock just on dividends or just like you house capital gains when you sell but like your house if you buy more stocks or a more valuable house with profits you forego capital gains.

You'll learn this in Grade 12 if you take economics.
 

Hoid

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Too little, too late. .

If it was too late it's because Steven Harper didn't get it done.

Literally nothing to do with the federal liberals who have cut their own throats in BC by approving this ridiculous expansion.

Nice to see them getting the blame from the ignore listers though.
 

Decapoda

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If it was too late it's because Steven Harper didn't get it done.

Literally nothing to do with the federal liberals who have cut their own throats in BC by approving this ridiculous expansion.

Nice to see them getting the blame from the ignore listers though.

Just keep telling yourself that and reinforce your own fairy-tale delusion. I've learned that trying to counter your fantasy with simple logic is a losing proposition. Since you evidently lack the ability to either read or comprehend, I'm including this cite for everyone else on this forum, you can just ignore it as usual.

Beware of fake news reporting that Liberals are better than Tories on pipelines

In total, Alberta got an added 1.25-million barrels a day worth of pipeline capacity under the last government.

The Liberals will add just half that much — 600,000 barrels — with the approval of Trans Mountain’s expansion. That’s if it actually gets built in the face of so much protest. You see, under the Tories, Northern Gateway, worth 500,000 barrels a day, was also approved, but the Liberals caved to protests and cancelled it — actually proving the point that a pipeline approval is a far cry from “getting it done.”
 

Hoid

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I don't want to disturb you any further but the Liberals will add zero through BC.
 

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Ontario just saw the biggest jump in prices due to the 15 min that we have seen in 27 years...
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just a question of when this all goes south, not if.

damn broke n liebarrels
 

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Canada's economy grows modestly in fourth quarter on back of housing gains

Canada's economy grew modestly in the fourth quarter and well below the strong pace set in the first half of the year, boosted by housing gains ahead of tighter mortgage regulations but hurt by a smaller accumulation of inventories.
The report from Statistics Canada on Friday was expected to keep the Bank of Canada in a holding pattern on interest rates at its policy meeting next week, though the central bank is still on track to raise borrowing costs later this year.
Canada's gross domestic product grew by an annualized 1.7 percent in the final quarter of 2017, short of economists' forecasts for 2.0 percent growth. The Canadian dollar touched a 10-week low against the greenback following the report before paring losses.
The economy grew 3 percent for the year, its best performance since 2011, thanks to annualized growth of 4 percent or better in the first two quarters. Analysts said the economy was likely returning to a more sustainable pace.
"The rush of growth we had from the middle of 2016 to the middle of 2017 is now well and truly over," said Doug Porter, chief economist at BMO Capital Markets.
"The economy is settling back into a growth path closer to potential, or likely just around 2 percent or so."
Business capital formation grew by an annualized 9.5 percent in the fourth quarter, largely due to investment in residential structures as both resale activity and new housing construction rose.
Some home buyers rushed to make purchases toward the end of last year ahead of new rules that came into effect in 2018 that included "stress tests" to ensure consumers are able to handle higher interest rates.
Businesses also invested more in machinery and equipment, particularly aircraft and other transportation equipment, while household spending also helped support the economy. Still, companies added less to their inventories than in the previous quarter, weighing on growth.
Although fourth-quarter growth fell below the Bank of Canada's forecast of 2.5 percent, economists said they still expected policymakers to raise rates again in the coming months.
"They are going to make sure this more moderate growth rate is maintained, so eventually I think you will see further tightening by the Bank of Canada," said Paul Ferley, assistant chief economist at Royal Bank of Canada.
The central bank has raised rates three times since last July. Markets see a 72 percent likelihood of an increase in May, while a hike in July is fully priced in.
 

10larry

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Walter my house goes up in value more in a year than I originally paid for it.

All tax free. All completely liquid through a heloc.

The stock market is a joke.

Our house has climbed in value also but the taxman(sorry) taxperson also shares in our capital gain, unfortunately my oas income increase doesn't keep up with my property tax increases. If I relied on gov retirement 'income' I'd be on the street, unlike libs we embraced the value in prudent financial planning.
 

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Our economy is so hot we can give jets away Lol

Canada lent a family $41 million to buy a luxury jet. Now the jet is missing.

OTTAWA — If you spot a sleek Bombardier Global 6000 business jet sporting tail number ZS-OAK, Canada would love to hear from you.
The jet belonged to South Africa's notorious Gupta family, whose alleged corruption helped trigger the scandals that recently forced President Jacob Zuma out of office. But the Guptas bought the plane with help from a $41 million loan from Export Development Canada, or EDC, Canada's state-owned export-import bank.
EDC was helping Bombardier Inc., the Canadian aerospace firm, land the jet sale. But that turns out to have been a poor bet: EDC now says the family defaulted on the loan in October and still owes the bank $27 million.
And with an arrest warrant outstanding for Ajay Gupta, one of three brothers in the family, there are other worries, too. “There is a very real concern that the aircraft may be used to escape justice or for some unlawful means,” wrote EDC in a recent application to a South African court seeking permission to ground the jet.
But EDC first has to find the plane; the Guptas made the plane's location data private after EDC sought the jet's exact whereabouts in a court filing. The disappearance of the plane is noted on FlightAware, a website that allows the public to track the location of planes around the world. “This aircraft (ZS-OAK) is not available for public tracking per request from the owner/operator,” the site says. The plane has been spotted in recent weeks at airports in India, Russia and Dubai.
Ehsan Monfared, a Toronto aviation lawyer, says that the case is unusual. Most people or entities who buy business jets of that size and value don’t have credit issues, and banks like EDC make sure they’re well protected. EDC, for its part, insists it performed due diligence on the Guptas.
Phil Taylor, a spokesman for EDC, said that the bank’s motion seeking to ground the aircraft is due to be heard in Johannesburg on March 6, but he declined to comment further. A separate court case is also underway in Britain. An effort to contact the Guptas through their London law firm was not successful.
It's certainly an embarrassing incident for the bank. But Karyn Keenan, the director of Above Ground, a Canadian human-rights and development nonprofit, finds it ironic that EDC is now worried about risking its reputation when it should have known of the corruption allegations against the Guptas that were circulating in South Africa at the time of the loan deal.
“This loan should never have been made,” she told The Washington Post. “Everybody in South Africa knew who the Guptas were. They had been investigated by South African authorities.”
The good news for EDC is that it's likely to get the plane back eventually. Under an international agreement called the Cape Town Treaty, Monfared said, lenders have the right to seize a plane in any country that's part of the pact. “I don’t think the Canadian taxpayer is going to get bilked, unless the aircraft has been otherwise disposed of,” he said.
 

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More Bombardier shenanigans.

I wonder if Canadians will ever be blessed enough to not have to support that money-pit of a company

Some hazard from Harvard was skunked on beer
Playing backyard bombardier

-- Bruce Springsteen

See? The enlightened mind (chemically enlightened) knows that The Boss has all the answers.
 

White_Unifier

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More Bombardier shenanigans.

I wonder if Canadians will ever be blessed enough to not have to support that money-pit of a company

But think of the poor globe trotters having to spend so much money on flight tickets on their holidays all the time. Subsidizing an airplane company helps them sell the planes to airlines at lower cost to pass the cost down to those poor globe trotters.

In the same vein, I think Canada should invite Lamborghini to move to Canada so we can subsidize it too. I mean, it breaks my heart to think how much car collectors pay for these cars.