Patrick Brown registers to run in PC leadership race

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The party is definitely better without Brown as I find that's he's a weak leader. The Ontario Conservatives need someone who will stand against Wynn - not merely seek platitudes. The Liberals have literally destroyed Ontario's advantage by giving money to their friends and making their constituents pay the price. Until Brown's resignation, the people of Ontario didn't have a good alternative to vote for. Now, maybe they will after all is said and done.


JMHO
 

Hoid

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So far the best PC leadership choice is "someone else".

It's like the federal conservatives and the GOP.

No good choices at all. Because they're all douche bags.
 

Murphy

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The party is definitely better without Brown as I find that's he's a weak leader. The Ontario Conservatives need someone who will stand against Wynn - not merely seek platitudes. The Liberals have literally destroyed Ontario's advantage by giving money to their friends and making their constituents pay the price. Until Brown's resignation, the people of Ontario didn't have a good alternative to vote for. Now, maybe they will after all is said and done.


JMHO

If you go to the PC FB page, you will read a lot of Brown's complaints with the Liberals, but precious few solutions. You will read the discontent there as well. I truly believe that if he cared, he would have kept out of things until after the election and his lawsuit was settled.

I don't really think much of Ford, but the others offer more than Brown, IMO.
 

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I think he should be given his job back. Period. The whole thing was a pile of bullsh!t. The knee-jerk idiots in the PC party who pushed him out should resign. Hopefully, Ontario voters will see past what was clearly a calculated character assassination.

How devoid of principle do you have to be to run for the leadership of a party that just kicked you out for what now appear to be little reason?

Politicians are such whores.

Careful, someone might file an anonymous complaint against you.

If you go to the PC FB page, you will read a lot of Brown's complaints with the Liberals, but precious few solutions. You will read the discontent there as well. I truly believe that if he cared, he would have kept out of things until after the election and his lawsuit was settled.

I don't really think much of Ford, but the others offer more than Brown, IMO.

I disagree with you on this one, Murph.
 

Walter

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So far the best PC leadership choice is "someone else".

It's like the federal conservatives and the GOP.

No good choices at all. Because they're all douche bags.
Yet Trump is POTUS and Mrs. Clinton is not.
 

Murphy

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I think he should be given his job back. Period. The whole thing was a pile of bullsh!t. The knee-jerk idiots in the PC party who pushed him out should resign. Hopefully, Ontario voters will see past what was clearly a calculated character assassination.

Careful, someone might file an anonymous complaint against you.

I disagree with you on this one, Murph.

You're entitled. Here's the thing: he resigned. Another election has to take place.

He wasn't pushed out. Accusations were made against him which conveniently happened, just before a provincial election. Not quite five months before Ontario was to go to the polls. He was asked to step down. He did. A few days later, the stories that caused the stir started changing.

What happened was a logical progression. No one expected one of the women would come forward and change her story so quickly. If you want to point the finger at anything, it would be CTV. I said this on another thread, but will repeat.

1. An anonymous tip goes into CTV claiming that Brown was guilty of sexual indiscretions. To maintain confidentiality, the names of the two accusers were not released, but Brown was named.
2. Despite one of the women claiming that she was underage, no complaints were filed with the police.
3. CTV claimed they performed due diligence. They verified everything and released the story. But it was obvious that they did not do their homework.

Brown is suing CTV, as it should be. In the meantime, the PCs are forced into another leadership race. Had CTV acted responsibly, this would not have happened.

It doesn't matter if the Liberals or the PCs convinced the women to come forward, or if they decided to do so on their own. CTV dropped the ball.
 

JLM

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You're entitled. Here's the thing: he resigned. Another election has to take place.

He wasn't pushed out. Accusations were made against him which conveniently happened, just before a provincial election. Not quite five months before Ontario was to go to the polls. He was asked to step down. He did. A few days later, the stories that caused the stir started changing.

What happened was a logical progression. No one expected one of the women would come forward and change her story so quickly. If you want to point the finger at anything, it would be CTV. I said this on another thread, but will repeat.

1. An anonymous tip goes into CTV claiming that Brown was guilty of sexual indiscretions. To maintain confidentiality, the names of the two accusers were not released, but Brown was named.
2. Despite one of the women claiming that she was underage, no complaints were filed with the police.
3. CTV claimed they performed due diligence. They verified everything and released the story. But it was obvious that they did not do their homework.

Brown is suing CTV, as it should be. In the meantime, the PCs are forced into another leadership race. Had CTV acted responsibly, this would not have happened.

It doesn't matter if the Liberals or the PCs convinced the women to come forward, or if they decided to do so on their own. CTV dropped the ball.

Perhaps guilt or innocence is irrelevant, Brown has demonstrated that he's too excitable and emotional..............what he should have done is say "lay the charges" and let it go at that!
 

Curious Cdn

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Perhaps guilt or innocence is irrelevant, Brown has demonstrated that he's too excitable and emotional..............what he should have done is say "lay the charges" and let it go at that!

How will you be voting?
 

Cliffy

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Don't ya miss the good ole days?

 

Murphy

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That would be fine if it had anything to do with Ontario. Cliffy, ever the bitter, old man and busybody.

This is a picture of Cliffy, taken at the I Hate Everything Rally in Vancouver.

 

Curious Cdn

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Our M.P. is Conservative - seems like a fairly down to earth guy.
FYI, My Mother worked very hard to try and get a Conservative elected in the Shuswap, 25 years or so ago during the Reform Party craze. You'd think that she was trying to sell Beelzebub Himself
to the bible-thumping residents of the area.
 

JLM

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FYI, My Mother worked very hard to try and get a Conservative elected in the Shuswap, 25 years or so ago during the Reform Party craze. You'd think that she was trying to sell Beelzebub Himself
to the bible-thumping residents of the area.
Federal or Provincial?