ABEXIT - is it time for Alberta to think about leaving Canada?

[taxslave]

Churchill Manitoba would be a brilliant choice. They need a new mission there and they have critical infrastructure in place such as a decent harbour. Westward navigation from there is predicated by a warming Northwest Passage, which IS happening.

Our RCN AOPS are being launched in a nick of time.

The NWP won't be open anytime soon as a dependable route. Maybe in another couple of hundred years.
As for the wet coast Vancouver area truly isn't the best place for oil ports. The outside of Barkley sound would be far superior from a maritime point of view. Likewise for Kitamat, 30 miles or so down Douglas channel would be superior. It is just the oil producing and transporting people are all flatlanders and they think the first drop of salt water is it.
WHen BC finally throws off the Ottawa imposed shackles of offshore drilling ports away from the inside waters will become even more desirable.

Two different courses of the Trans Canada Highway plus the CNR plus the CPR plus the Algoma Central are all built over thousands of kilometers of muskeg north of Lake Superior.

We have the technology.

You just have to do maintenance on them as they slowly sink into the goo.

How about pilings sunk to hard ground?

 

[Curious Cdn]

The NWP won't be open anytime soon as a dependable route. Maybe in another couple of hundred years.
As for the wet coast Vancouver area truly isn't the best place for oil ports. The outside of Barkley sound would be far superior from a maritime point of view. Likewise for Kitamat, 30 miles or so down Douglas channel would be superior. It is just the oil producing and transporting people are all flatlanders and they think the first drop of salt water is it.
WHen BC finally throws off the Ottawa imposed shackles of offshore drilling ports away from the inside waters will become even more desirable.

Yeah, but you have to route your pipeline through BC and that seems to be off. Anyway, sailing East into the Atlantic from Churchill and around the Horn may still be more profitable than exporting your oil to the US by rail and getting discounted returns for it.

 

[captain morgan]

When BC finally throws off the Ottawa imposed shackles of offshore drilling ports away from the inside waters will become even more desirable.

Seeing how BC is so fearful of ports handling oil, I can't begin to imagine the day that the province of BC would allow for any form of offshore development.

 

[petros]

A p/l would serve things better for E&P, while upgrading the rail system would be great for agri, mining, etc

The grain facilities are intact.
Oil and NG lines for domestic and export.

Seeing how BC is so fearful of ports handling oil, I can't begin to imagine the day that the province of BC would allow for any form of offshore development.

They have no idea how devastating a potash bulker leaving Port Moody would be if it sank in the Barnet or Burrard Inlets.

Everything would be dead for years and the only clean up measure is Mother Gaia.


But shhhhh!

Up the Mackenzie to Tuk would be the best pipeline route.

The Mac Valley is Canada's next big oil and gas boom waiting to happen.

 

[Hoid]

So much easier to go to Churchill than to Vancouver.

 

[pgs]

Seeing how BC is so fearful of ports handling oil, I can't begin to imagine the day that the province of BC would allow for any form of offshore development.

We do a fine job shipping coal and sulphur though .

 

[captain morgan]

We do a fine job shipping coal and sulphur though .

They are highly experienced in releasing millions of liters of raw sewage daily along those pristine coastlines so the coal and sulphur are no real surprise

 

[AncientMuse]

Did I accidentally step into a USA thread or something ?

A bunch of toddlers tugging on each other's ponytails fighting over who lives on a nicer geographical piece of grass ?




We're Canadians.

We're better than that.

We work together for the benefit of each other, in each province. We work together as one big happy dysfunctional family for the betterment of our fellow countrymen, across the board. We do not want to become like the USA... "me me me, mine mine mine". It's divisive and destructive to a country.

Have you guys not been paying attention to all the ugly crap going on in that 'insane asylum' south of the 49th parallel ?

Wake up.

Turn off CNN, Honey Boo Boo, and the Kardashians.

Their garbage media is poisoning your friggin brains.

 

[captain morgan]

Apparently Horgan didn't get that memo.

You ought to give him a call

 

[taxslave]

They are highly experienced in releasing millions of liters of raw sewage daily along those pristine coastlines so the coal and sulphur are no real surprise

Only Victoria. But their shit don't pollute. Also their expensive Imported cars and taxpayer funded diesel buses don't leave any carbon footprint.

So much easier to go to Churchill than to Vancouver.

Not when the market is Asia.

 

[captain morgan]

I was in YVR a couple of times over the summer and heard a warning (radio) that the fecal matter concentration in False Creek was at high levels wherein it was recommended that no one get in contact with the water

 

[B00Mer]

Did I accidentally step into a USA thread or something ?

A bunch of toddlers tugging on each other's ponytails fighting over who lives on a nicer geographical piece of grass ?

We're Canadians.

We're better than that.

We work together for the benefit of each other, in each province. We work together as one big happy dysfunctional family for the betterment of our fellow countrymen, across the board. We do not want to become like the USA... "me me me, mine mine mine". It's divisive and destructive to a country.

Have you guys not been paying attention to all the ugly crap going on in that 'insane asylum' south of the 49th parallel ?

Wake up.

Turn off CNN, Honey Boo Boo, and the Kardashians.

Their garbage media is poisoning your friggin brains.

Trudeau legalize marijuana already..

Keep smoking that shit hippie, all tulips and blue sky’s ahead

 

[JLM]

Trudeau legalize marijuana already..

Keep smoking that shit hippie, all tulips and blue sky’s ahead

Hey, there's no use in even trying to converse with that mentality!

 

[taxslave]

I was in YVR a couple of times over the summer and heard a warning (radio) that the fecal matter concentration in False Creek was at high levels wherein it was recommended that no one get in contact with the water

You see how many boats are moored there with no holding tanks? And the lack of pump out facilities for those that do?

 

[pgs]

I was in YVR a couple of times over the summer and heard a warning (radio) that the fecal matter concentration in False Creek was at high levels wherein it was recommended that no one get in contact with the water

Yes we have a contingent of green’s who are reducing their carbon footprint by living on boats in False Creek and English Bay . The fact that the boats have no sewage treatment is lost on them .

 

[B00Mer]

You see how many boats are moored there with no holding tanks? And the lack of pump out facilities for those that do?

They should ban that.. but then Richard Anderson would have to move.. oops shhh (secret)

Meh f*ck it, cats out of the bag..

 

[captain morgan]

You see how many boats are moored there with no holding tanks? And the lack of pump out facilities for those that do?

Yes we have a contingent of green’s who are reducing their carbon footprint by living on boats in False Creek and English Bay . The fact that the boats have no sewage treatment is lost on them .

I never thought of that possibility.... Kind of creepy now that i know

 

[B00Mer]

It Alberta was located in BC I might actually support the idea. But we're land-locked so how would separating help us? I suppose we could make closer ties to the US but would they allow us to build a pipeline south down and then West to a deep water port? I doubt it. So what would we gain? Oh yeah, no more contributions to the Feds but that's about it. We still have to deal with the rest of the country, so may as well make the best of it.


JMHO

Joining the USA is the only option, because as a sovereign nation you need your own currency, military and so on.. it would be to expensive and not worth it on our own..

"51 Reasons Alberta Should Become A U. S. State" by @Force1Eagle, a citizen of Alberta

 

[gerryh]

Joining the USA is the only option, because as a sovereign nation you need your own currency, military and so on.. it would be to expensive and not worth it on our own..

"51 Reasons Alberta Should Become A U. S. State" by @Force1Eagle, a citizen of Alberta

Traitor

 

[White_Unifier]

Traitor

The White Rose were traitors too:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Rose

As was Hasegawa Teru:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teru_Hasegawa

And many others. Sometimes, We deserve praise to commit treason against the state to preserve our moral integrity.