Is God competent or incompetent?

[French Patriot]

Is God competent or incompetent?

We are told in scriptures that evil begets evil and good begets good. God, as our creator, according to scriptures, creates us all as sinners, which many see as evil.

God can thus be seen and judged as being the original sinner since the fruits of his labor (us) went bad or are born bad. A tree is known by its fruits. What else could come from a sinner tree but sin?

I give God a fail on competence for the following reasons.
God created heaven that produced Satan. Fail.
God created Eden which produced Original Sin. Fail.
God had to reboot creation with Noah’s flood. Fail.
God sent his son to forgive mankind instead of stepping up himself. Fail, for moral reasons.
God also had to create hell for his rejects which scriptures say will be the vast majority of us. Fail.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds and if we believe that, then the Christian God would obviously be rejected by Jesus and agree with my fail judgement.

Do you agree?

Regards
DL

 

[petros]

God gave you freewill. How you choose to use it defines your personality and how you are judged by society as a whole.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

If you think God is a 'fail', I think you're asking the wrong question.

How come we always ask, "How could God create so much misery and strife in this world?"

Yet strangely we never ask, "How could The Devil allow me to enjoy this beautiful sunset, or the birth of my child?"

A faulty question will lead to a faulty answer, if you catch my drift.

 

[JLM]

Maybe God just provides skills and tools and the rest is up to you!

 

[Hoof Hearted]

JLM,

What's that you say?! Personal responsibility?? In THIS day and age? What a novel concept!!

 

[Danbones]

Nothing is better than eternal happiness...

A ham sandwich is better than nothing.

Competent...non competent?

you tell me

 

[JLM]

JLM,

What's that you say?! Personal responsibility?? In THIS day and age? What a novel concept!!

Yep, it's all about fault and blame on someone else.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

One of my fave quotes has always been...

"Any man who says he never had a chance, never took a chance."

Not sure who the author of that one is, but it's an excellent take on personal responsibility in my opinion.

 

[JLM]

One of my fave quotes has always been...

"Any man who says he never had a chance, never took a chance."

Not sure who the author of that one is, but it's an excellent take on personal responsibility in my opinion.

Excellent! That was driven home to me during my working days. My 2nd I/C was quite knowledgable and a good worker but would NOT make a decision. When a situation changes and the boss is away somewhere, someone has to take the "bull by the horns". You give it your best thought and then act on it! No one who accomplishes anything gets through life with out f**king something up at some point. That's how you learn and "grow".

 

[Johnnny]

Is God competent or incompetent?

We are told in scriptures that evil begets evil and good begets good. God, as our creator, according to scriptures, creates us all as sinners, which many see as evil.

God can thus be seen and judged as being the original sinner since the fruits of his labor (us) went bad or are born bad. A tree is known by its fruits. What else could come from a sinner tree but sin?

I give God a fail on competence for the following reasons.
God created heaven that produced Satan. Fail.
God created Eden which produced Original Sin. Fail.
God had to reboot creation with Noah’s flood. Fail.
God sent his son to forgive mankind instead of stepping up himself. Fail, for moral reasons.
God also had to create hell for his rejects which scriptures say will be the vast majority of us. Fail.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds and if we believe that, then the Christian God would obviously be rejected by Jesus and agree with my fail judgement.

Do you agree?

Regards
DL

What if God put their hand in the ground, brought up some mud,threw it and we formed?

 

[Danbones]

the sand and water people would be pissed

The only guy who never made a mistake, never did anything

Gawd, they say, is perfect...never did nufink, he did.

 

[B00Mer]

 

[tay]

He was gonna get her young one way or the other........


five-year-old girl who survived a cancer diagnosis died Monday after an empty SUV rolled into her and pinned her against her family’s car while her father picked her up from school.

Camila de Almeida Torcato, a senior kindergarten student at St. Raphael Catholic School in North York, was leaving school at approximately 3:20 p.m. on Monday when she was struck by a rolling SUV without a driver in it, Toronto police said.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canad...by-empty-suv-outside-toronto-school-1.3761410

 

[DaSleeper]

Another stupid question by French patriot.....

And white unifier tries to emulate him....

 

[French Patriot]

God gave you freewill. How you choose to use it defines your personality and how you are judged by society as a whole.

Do you have the free will to never sin?


No you do not so stop making idiotic statements.


Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”.


That is "God gave us free will and it was our free willed choices that caused our fall. Hence God is not blameworthy."


But this simply avoids God's culpability as the author of Human Nature. Free will is only the ability to choose. It is not an explanation why anyone would want to choose "A" or "B" (bad or good action). An explanation for why Eve would even have the nature of "being vulnerable to being easily swayed by a serpent" and "desiring to eat a forbidden fruit" must lie in the nature God gave Eve in the first place. Hence God is culpable for deliberately making humans with a nature-inclined-to-fall, and "free will" means nothing as a response to this problem.


If all sin by nature then, the sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not sin. That being the case, for God to punish us for following the instincts and natures he put in us would be quite wrong.


Regards
DL

If you think God is a 'fail', I think you're asking the wrong question.

How come we always ask, "How could God create so much misery and strife in this world?"

Yet strangely we never ask, "How could The Devil allow me to enjoy this beautiful sunset, or the birth of my child?"

A faulty question will lead to a faulty answer, if you catch my drift.

If you think God id not a fail, then your sense of discernment is defective.


That is why you are deflecting instead of dealing with the question.


Regards
DL

Maybe God just provides skills and tools and the rest is up to you!

What good are defective tools and skills?


Yours is basically a free will argument that tries to shift blame to us inappropriately.


Christians are always trying to absolve God of moral culpability in the fall by whipping out their favorite "free will!", or “ it’s all man’s fault”.


That is "God gave us free will and it was our free willed choices that caused our fall. Hence God is not blameworthy."


But this simply avoids God's culpability as the author of Human Nature. Free will is only the ability to choose. It is not an explanation why anyone would want to choose "A" or "B" (bad or good action). An explanation for why Eve would even have the nature of "being vulnerable to being easily swayed by a serpent" and "desiring to eat a forbidden fruit" must lie in the nature God gave Eve in the first place. Hence God is culpable for deliberately making humans with a nature-inclined-to-fall, and "free will" means nothing as a response to this problem.


If all sin by nature then, the sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not sin. That being the case, for God to punish us for following the instincts and natures he put in us would be quite wrong.



Regards
DL

 

[Hoid]

I don't think omnipotent beings can be incompetent

 

[French Patriot]

JLM,

What's that you say?! Personal responsibility?? In THIS day and age? What a novel concept!!

Especially given that all who fly the cross are using Jesus as their scapegoat instead of stepping up to their own responsibilities.


Christians are trained to ignore their responsibilities.


Regards
DL

Nothing is better than eternal happiness...

A ham sandwich is better than nothing.

Competent...non competent?

you tell me

I guess that you do not recognize how hellish eternal anything would be.


Regards
DL

What if God put their hand in the ground, brought up some mud,threw it and we formed?

Why would he form the really horrible images you see in this link?


http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded


Regards
DL

I don't think omnipotent beings can be incompetent

You are likely correct which indicates that God is not Omni anything as he is definitely incompetent.


Regards
DL

 

[French Patriot]

I wonder if this prophet Abraham is like Jesus only a prophet to the almighty Allah Akbar. These I think are right or Abraham are God in Jewish them how trust in him or across this world.

All the Abrahamic cults are born of the same DNA.


They all preach slavery to God.


Nothing quite like slavery. Christians must obey and Muslims must submit.


They are all idol worshipers.


Regards
DL

 

[JLM]

It all depends on whose God you are talking about!

 

[French Patriot]

It all depends on whose God you are talking about!

Do you know of a competent God?


Name him or her please.


Regards
DL