Flynn and Son to be charged for Russian Collusion

[Corduroy]

Couldn't have put it better myself, Cord. At least the second part. I do think Trump is accountable to the electorate of the United States.. certainly not the Special Prosecutor.

It's incredible that you love pontificating on the collapse of the US constitution when you clearly know **** all about it. Trump is accountable to a heck of lot more than the electorate. Figure it out and you won't look like such a fool when you rant about the unaccountable special prosecutor.

 

[White_Unifier]

It's incredible that you love pontificating on the collapse of the US constitution when you clearly know **** all about it. Trump is accountable to a heck of lot more than the electorate. Figure it out and you won't look like such a fool when you rant about the unaccountable special prosecutor.

But is the US Constitution the Vatican-approved Douay-Rheims English Catholic Bible?

 

[Corduroy]

I'm not sure about Trump's relationship with Almighty.

Not so sure that Trump is God's candidate anymore?

Trump at age 70 has taken on the mantle of God's candidate.

 

[White_Unifier]

Not so sure that Trump is God's candidate anymore?

When Trump talks about grabbing a woman by the kitten, he really means to put the hand of God on there to bless it with fertility... maybe... perhaps... nah, I'm not buying my own BS.

 

[coldstream]

It's incredible that you love pontificating on the collapse of the US constitution when you clearly know **** all about it. Trump is accountable to a heck of lot more than the electorate. Figure it out and you won't look like such a fool when you rant about the unaccountable special prosecutor.

Muellar is running an anti Constitutional Star Chamber. He has no oversight, he operates in secret, he manipulates witnesses through fear and intimidation. He has surrounded himself with ideologues deeply antipathetic to Trump and Trump's brand of economic nationalism and social conservatism. Only when their prejudice gets found out by way leaked emails does he transfer them to the FBI HR Department (of course in secret). He in unaccountable, a power unto himself.. and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Look at Canada's SCOC and you'll see another example.

 

[White_Unifier]

Muellar is running an anti Constitutional Star Chamber. He has no oversight, he operates in secret, he manipulates witnesses through fear and intimidation. He has surrounded himself with ideologues deeply antipathetic to Trump and Trump's brand of economic nationalism and social conservatism. Only when their prejudice gets found out by way leaked emails does he transfer them to the FBI hr office (of course in secret). He in unaccountable.. and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Look at Canada's SCOC and you'll see another example.

So what are your thoughts on Trump building a wall to keep Catholic Mexicans out of the more Protestant United States?

 

[coldstream]

Not so sure that Trump is God's candidate anymore?

You have a long memory and excellent filing system, Cord. Too bad its not used in service of something useful. The quote btw was nuanced and contextualized. I don't think your editing ability comes up to a par with your memory and organization.

 

[Cannuck]

Kim Jong Il, Stupid!

Trump killed Kim Jong Il?

 

[coldstream]

So what are your thoughts on Trump building a wall to keep Catholic Mexicans out of the more Protestant United States?

There are many things with which i disagree with Trump. The Wall is one of them. Progressive taxation (in income, capital gains, estate taxes); Regulation of Markets, Banks and Trusts are others.. even moving the U.S Embassy to Jerusalem (a nod to Jared Kushner's radical zionist family and Evangelicals prophetic support of Israel, but likely to inflame the Middle East furthur). But in general.. he's a breath of fresh air. AND he's an iconoclast, a loose cannon, on a ship of state with a rotten deck and about to enter a historic squall.

 

[Cannuck]

Poor Pete. He knows as much about US plea bargains as he does about Canadian tax credits

 

[Corduroy]

Muellar is running an anti Constitutional Star Chamber. He has no oversight, he operates in secret, he manipulates witnesses through fear and intimidation. He has surrounded himself with ideologues deeply antipathetic to Trump and Trump's brand of economic nationalism and social conservatism. Only when their prejudice gets found out by way leaked emails does he transfer them to the FBI hr office (of course in secret). He in unaccountable.. and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Look at Canada's SCOC and you'll see another example.

Except that in a previous post on the very same page you said Trump could fire Mueller and that Trump wasn't accountable to him. Now you're saying the opposite. So not only are you making a fool of yourself by pretending to understand how this works, you're making a fool of yourself by contradicting yourself.

When Trump talks about grabbing a woman by the kitten, he really means to put the hand of God on there to bless it with fertility... maybe... perhaps... nah, I'm not buying my own BS.

These religious zealots don't care about real morality. They use it as a cover for their true desire, which is to create a militant theocracy where the state oppresses people not on religious morality but on religious identity. Immorality among their leaders is only a PR hurdle and they will quickly abandon the pretense when convenient. Alabama is going to prove it.

 

[EagleSmack]

*snicker*

 

[coldstream]

Except that in a previous post on the very same page you said Trump could fire Mueller and that Trump wasn't accountable to him. Now you're saying the opposite. So not only are you making a fool of yourself by pretending to understand how this works, you're making a fool of yourself by contradicting yourself.


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He could, but it'd be a brawl with Dems and the NeoCons is his own party. There's a question of whether its worth the effort since its going NOWHERE. It is a frameup and witch hunt There is no contradiction with what i've said... the contraditions are all within your own convoluted, irrational and selective logic. You're one confused puppy, Cord.

 

[Corduroy]

He could, but it'd be a brawl with Dems and the NeoCons is his own party.

Yes, there are political consequences for exercising power. Others branches of governments have power and will use it. You're still proving yourself wrong. The best antidote for that is knowing what you're talking about.


Or you can just go ahead and stop using the rhetoric of constitutionality to justify your belief that Donald Trump should be unquestioned.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Yes, there are political consequences for exercising power. Others branches of governments have power and will use it. You're still proving yourself wrong. The best antidote for that is knowing what you're talking about.


Or you can just go ahead and stop using the rhetoric of constitutionality to justify your belief that Donald Trump should be unquestioned.

Bigly.

Couldn't have put it better myself, Cord. At least the second part. I do think Trump is accountable to the electorate of the United States.. certainly not the Special Prosecutor. And he could fire Mueller and probably should fire Mueller. And he'd get away with it.

That's funny. According to our Constitution, he's also accountable to the Congress and the courts. Not that you have the faintest idea what you're talking about.

 

[Walter]

Trump wouldn't report money laundering on his taxes. His taxes would only reveal that he doesn't pay any and releasing his taxes would only implicate the rest of the government which long complicit in only the rich to BS their way out of paying anything.

Maddow proves Trump pays a lot in taxes.

 

[Twila]

Did he flip? On who?

well that's the big question...what does he know for his plea deal...

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/opinion/michael-flynn-flipped-mueller.html

Mr. Flynn’s plea is part of a larger cooperation deal he’s struck with the special counsel, Robert Mueller III, who is investigating ties between the Trump campaign and Russian government officials who tried to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Mr. Mueller, for his part, is holding off on bringing even more serious charges against Mr. Flynn — remember the kidnapping plot? — despite apparently having more than enough evidence to indict him. He’s also recommending between zero and six months’ jail time for Mr. Flynn, a small fraction of the five-year maximum sentence he could face, as long as he cooperates.

 

[JLM]

Unless one has all the paper work in front of them regarding the status of Trump's taxes they have no f**king business commenting on them because they don't bloody well know what he owes or what he's paid. How many people are squeaky clean when it comes to income tax anyway? I try my best but I've had a year or two when C.R.S. has notified me months later when something slipped past me. In one case because I was remiss in notifying everyone of an address change. So there, no one is perfect!

 

[Twila]

Unless one has all the paper work in front of them regarding the status of Trump's taxes they have no f**king business commenting on them because they don't bloody well know what he owes or what he's paid. How many people are squeaky clean when it comes to income tax anyway? I try my best but I've had a year or two when C.R.S. has notified me months later when something slipped past me. In one case because I was remiss in notifying everyone of an address change. So there, no one is perfect!

It's not his taxes their looking at now. It's his business dealings. Whether russian money touched his business dealings,personal dealings or family dealings. Besides,trump said he only hires the best people, so if he hired the best to do his taxes you have no reason to blow a gasket over it.


It's getting even more interesting now. Ps. Mueller has LOTS of paperwork in front of him.

 

[Hoid]

Trump wouldn't report money laundering on his taxes. His taxes would only reveal that he doesn't pay any and releasing his taxes would only implicate the rest of the government which long complicit in only the rich to BS their way out of paying anything.

It's the billionaires who at fault for getting out of paying taxes. It's the American government that allows them to do it. It's designed that way.

Trump's Russian money laundering will appear as sales of real estate to Russians for inflated prices.



He can fire him easily. Coldstream had a conniption ranting about how he's not accountable to anyone and Western civilization was about to collapse into tyranny, globalism, lesbian steampunk iconoclasm and jazzy bacchanalia etc. etc., but Trump could fire him at any time.

Yes he could fire him if he wanted but it would not be easy in political terms.

I have to admit his recent attack on the fbi certainly looks like a prelude to firing Mueller. Disparage the people who appointed Mueller...

I just don;t see that Donald Trump has all that much political capital he can throw around. There will be republicans who turn on Trump and vote for impeachment.