Canada needs a new northern coast to coast rail line for mass immigration and agricul

[petros]

What it needs right now pronto is a rail line into Churchill MB. Why the f**king dithering? Trudeau should be compiling a list of contractors and a list of required materials and sources THIS MORNING! That whole f**king Parliament Hill should be renamed O of I...........................Office of Idiots!


There is no better reason in the country to borrow money!

Churchill line is a winter only line. To make it year round would require pushing pilings to the bedrock.

 

[JLM]

Churchill line is a winter only line. To make it year round would require pushing pilings to the bedrock.

Was that line not in use in the summer? Anyway push the pilings to the bedrock.......................sounds like what should have been done in the first place. It's Canada's only northern port until one is built at Tuk.

 

[taxslave]

We live in a consumer economy. What is wrong with increasing our consumer base to at least the size of the U.S. if not more?


The U.S. will be affected in a huge way by desertification and many of those will be looking for a home in Canada as well.


Canada can lead the world in humanitarian efforts to displaced people, and profit by it, and to not do so would be insane.


Regards
DL

Since Canada is not warming up any it will never be able to have the population the US does. Try iceland.

Our coastal cities are going to drown and you want to put in what will just flood out. Those cities can barely keep up with infrastructure costs now and you want to add more.


I do not see that as a viable option.


I do see a viable option in building small towns and medium size cities following a new railroad in our warming north, as well as the benefits to natives who are presently in need and will cost us a lot of tax dollars to sustain on the dole. Better to have employed bunch of immigrants and native paying taxes than on the dole.


Remember that, like many natives, the immigrant education levels will not be high and having many labor intensive jobs will provide better education for the next generation in both of those camps.


I see a win win win situation that we can create should we decide to do so.


It sure beats our having to sell our goods to countries like the Philippines where they murder drug addicts, which is a medical condition.


Regards
DL





Corn is not a good source of nutrition and most farms that I have seen have a separate crop of edibles for home use.


Today, I imagine, what, one out of 10 of the farms would be assigned to grow edible crops which are definitely superior to cattle corn.


Not to mention hemp orchards, as that is a plant that can be used to manufacture all kinds of products as well as pot greenhouses that will supply a growing world demand as the benefits list continues to grow.


We should rush a bit to get the rail line and farms started as I do not know how many years we have left before the environment goes to hell and our infrastructure costs skyrocket due to having to save our waterfront cities from the effects of climate change and sea level rise.


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DL





Did I say that?


No I did not.


We have tons of land before the tundra begins. Come south a bit if you are going to try to estimate growing time in an environment whose temperature we do not even know yet.


I also recognize that an environmental study would have to be done to decide just how high the new rail line should be. At present, I do not know how many mines would open in the north once a transportation system opens up the north to prospecting and mining. What was not viable in the past will become viable when the trains start to run.



Regards
DL



Watch the movie Cowspiracy. Cows should be outlawed in Canada as they are a major factor in pollution and cause more problem than they are worth. Further, most immigrant are not cattle eaters. They are into goats, pigs and sheep.


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DL




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Stealing your neighbors land is hardly what the victim of that thief would call a success.


Regards
DL

Kind of hard to have steaks without cowa. Milk too.

 

[TenPenny]

Churchill line is a winter only line. To make it year round would require pushing pilings to the bedrock.

If it's a winter-only line, why is there all the complaining about the line being out of service and the shortages of food and fuel all summer in Churchill?


If it's only used in winter, then it being out of service all summer wouldn't make any difference.

 

[French Patriot]

Since Canada is not warming up any it will never be able to have the population the US does. Try iceland.


Kind of hard to have steaks without cowa. Milk too.

We do not milk steers. That would be masturbation, and we are not young cows who need a mamma cows milk to grow our babies or add to fattening sugar cereals.


If we are not willing to adjust to climate change and reduce it's effect, we just might go extinct.


It may not be warming up where you are but where I used to shovel snow twice a week, I now shovel once every two weeks, if it hasn't melted away.


Where I used to get 40 below for 3 weeks, I now get 3 below for 4 weeks.


Regards
DL

 

[Twin_Moose]

I'm kinda interested in what crops you think will grow in the Canadian shield, the tract of land between the farmable and Tundra.

 

[French Patriot]

I'm kinda interested in what crops you think will grow in the Canadian shield, the tract of land between the farmable and Tundra.

Where did I say to go that far north?


I guess you missed where I said we would need an environmental assessment to decide because of trothing weather patterns.


I am a good generalist but am not expert in all things.


Do you have anything against Canada growing it's economy? Did you even listen to that link?


Regards
DL

 

[MHz]

Do you have any corny thoughts?

Does that include logic and efficiency with a touch of morality thrown in?

Canada needs a new northern coast to coast rail line for mass immigration and agriculture.
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Global climate change is pushing Canada’s tree line northwards.

Let's say that is true, that would mean making farms out of what is currently tundra or swamp. It could be strip mined and shipped south in arid places that are getting more rain in the future due to climate change. Considering the places that are

Mass immigration and Canada becoming the bread basket of the future world should prompt us to take advantage of this trend by building a modern rail system to what will be the new breadbasket below the new predictable tree line.

Should the north be Alaska and the Yukon settling a large group is not as easy as it would be if the settlement area opened up was Hudson Bay. If the latter was opened up the 30M would not be overcrowding it and the water would replace farmland. That means the area could open up for all of Japan should radiation turn out to be bad for you. If the UK was sinking into the sea due to nature that would still mean the whole country would be looking for a new homeland and the Bay is a straight sail, going past Greenland would be a sober reminder of what happens when you fight nature.

New mass immigration will give us the manpower required to do this and we owe it to the world to get going on this ASAP.

Perhaps 'we' should build it so 'they' can move right in and start their new job as fishermen and polar bear watchers. Since the shoreline is bare rock just short of being as hard as a diamond moving the stuff around is not as easy as travel by water. That goes for travel from Winnipeg to the Great Bear Lake, connecting the lakes would be easier than going around them. Barges in the summer and ice road in the winter. Crossing swamp would mean the moss is left in place on the sides at it would stop waves from the wind from forming. Smooth while big lakes are under whitecap conditions from the wind.

To not do so invites the vast numbers of future immigrant to find other places to live and that means a lot of war and unrest.

For others, hopefully they will not find out their motherland was destroyed with our help. Most places are already overcrowded. Sign on the dotted line for a loan for $250K and you end up with your own land and business and you kids can do the same for about 4 generations.

Canada already has a system in place that guarantees that corn produces will sell their produce to Canada so as to increase our biofuel production.

Thanks but we can build pipelines over bedrock so they last and of they break bedrock is pretty durable. NG can light up the whole Bay without needing any corn for anything except food for the fish so the harvest is as big as possible. Fish trained to swim might into the processing plant.

It may sound corny but we should plan to grow a vast amount of corn along a new northern rail line that goes coast to coast. This would also help in our transporting crude oil by rail as Canadians do not want pipelines.

Let's double up on the lines in the south and add in a monorail to move people coast to coast in less than a 12 hrs. Ontario can ct as the hub for the flow going north from there, as northern Manitoba is too wet but it will be the first places to be settles if the Bay opens for business. Idealy they could come in by boat and the south would never even see them arrive, let alone be their first exposure to 'Canadians' such as can be found on this forum.

We should act now and not wait till people start killing each other is those areas that will face desertification. We can save lot of people from a lot of hardship if we start now as desertification has already started.

Fill out the homesteading form and when it hits 2M we can get started.

 

[bill barilko]

Damned little of anything that can be called farmland in Canada's north-the Little Claybelt in Ontario and some of the Peace River country in BC is about it.

 

[French Patriot]

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Does that include logic and efficiency with a touch of morality thrown in?

Whatever the poster wants to put.

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Let's say that is true, that would mean making farms out of what is currently tundra or swamp. It could be strip mined and shipped south in arid places that are getting more rain in the future due to climate change. Considering the places that are

If such a thing is cost effective, the environmental impact study will show it.

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Should the north be Alaska and the Yukon settling a large group is not as easy as it would be if the settlement area opened up was Hudson Bay. If the latter was opened up the 30M would not be overcrowding it and the water would replace farmland. That means the area could open up for all of Japan should radiation turn out to be bad for you. If the UK was sinking into the sea due to nature that would still mean the whole country would be looking for a new homeland and the Bay is a straight sail, going past Greenland would be a sober reminder of what happens when you fight nature.

I think you are too far north.

I would imagine the Brits would go East before going West but I doubt that anyone has planned that far as yet. Yours is a good point though.

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DL

Damned little of anything that can be called farmland in Canada's north-the Little Claybelt in Ontario and some of the Peace River country in BC is about it.

You underestimate things.


Regards
DL

 

[taxslave]

Where did I say to go that far north?


I guess you missed where I said we would need an environmental assessment to decide because of trothing weather patterns.


I am a good generalist but am not expert in all things.


Do you have anything against Canada growing it's economy? Did you even listen to that link?


Regards
DL

Growing the economy and importing people are not the same. In fact with the current crop of immigrants it is costing taxpayers just to have them here. Exporting goods is a far better ROI.
You also have the problem that immigrants are simply not interested in going north. They just want to hang in the inner cities.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Pretty much any farmland worth farming is already in use, the fringe farmland have hay growing on it, the least desirable farmable land have livestock grazing on it so I don't know where you are finding all this new corn land to farm?????

Anywhere that corn is viable to grow they already are growing it there I just don't understand where you are going with this. If Immigrants want to set up on scrap land have at it, if the First Canadian's will let you settle on unsettled Crown all the power to you

 

[French Patriot]

Growing the economy and importing people are not the same. In fact with the current crop of immigrants it is costing taxpayers just to have them here. Exporting goods is a far better ROI.
You also have the problem that immigrants are simply not interested in going north. They just want to hang in the inner cities.

More true than not, but the host tells the gust which room he will sleep in and if that is not good enough, he can always pay his own way elsewhere.


Regards
DL

Pretty much any farmland worth farming is already in use, the fringe farmland have hay growing on it, the least desirable farmable land have livestock grazing on it so I don't know where you are finding all this new corn land to farm?????

Anywhere that corn is viable to grow they already are growing it there I just don't understand where you are going with this. If Immigrants want to set up on scrap land have at it, if the First Canadian's will let you settle on unsettled Crown all the power to you

First Canadians have no control of Crown land.


You are correct that we have already taken the best land but as the tree line heads north, more good arable land will become available.


Regards
DL

 

[taxslave]

More true than not, but the host tells the gust which room he will sleep in and if that is not good enough, he can always pay his own way elsewhere.


Regards
DL





First Canadians have no control of Crown land.


You are correct that we have already taken the best land but as the tree line heads north, more good arable land will become available.


Regards
DL

Indians have near total control over crown land thanks to a supreme court totally out of touch with reality.

 

[petros]

Was that line not in use in the summer? Anyway push the pilings to the bedrock.......................sounds like what should have been done in the first place. It's Canada's only northern port until one is built at Tuk.

Just VIA and light freight in summer. Even winter required aluminum grain cars to lighten the load on the line

 

[Twin_Moose]

First Canadians have no control of Crown land.


You are correct that we have already taken the best land but as the tree line heads north, more good arable land will become available.


Regards
DL

Now we're back were we started, back into the Canadian shield then it turns to tundra in the Northern prairies

 

[petros]

Clearing and burning the boreal will create excellent soil.

The reason they chose 60°N as the northern borders of Western provinces was because 60° was their idea of the limit of agricultural use.

 

[JLM]

Clearing and burning the boreal will create excellent soil.

The reason they chose 60°N as the northern borders of Western provinces was because 60° was their idea of the limit of agricultural use.

Hi Pete- Have you taken a drive up the new highway to Tuk yet? It opened this morning- cost $300 million- gives Canada a new dimension!

Clearing and burning the boreal will create excellent soil.

The reason they chose 60°N as the northern borders of Western provinces was because 60° was their idea of the limit of agricultural use.

Hey, they grow stuff on the MacKenzie Delta!

 

[Mowich]

We live in a consumer economy. What is wrong with increasing our consumer base to at least the size of the U.S. if not more?

As of 1 January 2017, the population of Canada was estimated to be 36,508,003 people.

The current population of the United States of America is 325,322,429 as of Wednesday, November 15, 2017, based on the latest United Nations estimates.

Well you better hope that the majority of the 288, 814, 426 people you would see come to Canada - just to catch up to the US - have a job waiting, money in the bank and a place to live. Otherwise, Canada would simply become one big ghetto.

 

[EagleSmack]

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