20 Dead After Shooting at South Texas Church

[darkbeaver]

What we want to avoid is the giant Vortex of American collapse encompass us, I suggest a big snow wall while they beat the truth out of eachother, good TV.

Jeez how many guns to do the job?
a 30.06 ( or 308 ), a .22, and a 12 gauge together should do most types of gun werks

Though most deer do like to go to sleep with a nice 30.30.

When I was kid here in the outback I used to deplete a lot of amunition, dad was a federal licensed gun nut drawin pay. Smith&Wesson 38 was my favourite rat and skunk stopper, still got ammo but the old man had to turn in the device. Lots of fun .

Just twenty! Itsa mercul. Savages the whole lot of them.

 

[Danbones]

Yeah, I seem to recall I saw a nice pre war Browning Hi Power around some where.

 

[darkbeaver]

Of course I'm disposing the whole lot as per government suggestions. I have to get rid of the still as well.

Crime has been god to me so far, genera ah I've lost my train of thougt, tired old engines.

I'm thinking of the lawn mintenance eqipment theses poor souls will have left behind and how to get it.

There were only twenty. Wrrr these people really christians?

 

[Curious Cdn]

So, the killer wasn't qualified to obtain firearms in Texas?

So, the system works afterall?

THAT'S a relief!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

They should pass a law that somebody with a criminal or mental health record shouldn't be able to buy firearms.

That'll fix everything.

Makes a body wonder why they haven't already passed a law like that.

 

[darkbeaver]

You still live with your parents?

Just thier memory.

They should pass a law that somebody with a criminal or mental health record shouldn't be able to buy firearms.

That'll fix everything.

Makes a body wonder why they haven't already passed a law like that.

It's because those specimins who pass the laws have criminal and mental health issus of course.

Gun control: Some inconvenient truths



Irish Savant — Nov 7, 2017

The latest shooting outrage – this time in Texas, getting hard to keep track – has elicited the usual hysterical squeals for gun control from the usual suspects. They cite such outrages as definitively supporting their position whereas in fact they do nothing of the sort.

Some inconvenient truths:

The ownership/murder ratio does not hold up. The ratio of gun ownership does not correlate at all with the number of murders. For instance Norway, Canada and Switzerland lag only slightly behind the USA in the gun ownership ratio but the gun death ratio (especially in Norway and Switzerland) is but a fraction of America’s.

Bad guys can always get hold a gun. Would-be murderers or terrorists can always get hold a gun or if not a weapon equally lethal. This applies especially in the USA where existing circumstances (hundreds of millions of guns in existence and Latin America lying across a porous border) render it impossible to disarm gang-bangers or terrorists.

Gun deaths are actually declining: Despite the opportunistic hysteria that accompanies every mass killing in the USA the number of gun deaths there has actually declined since the nineties. (Last year 12 per 100,000, 15 for most of the nineties…a 20% decline). That being so why the clamour now? Read on.

The 80/20 rule: Analysis of race-delineated gun deaths shows that approximately 80% of White killers kill themselves while the ratio is reversed for black killers. We can reasonably infer that an absence of a gun would prevent a would-be suicide attempt.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Now I hear they're bring counselors into Sutherland Springs. Counselors! Can you believe it? Buncha hippy-dippy liberal arts majors from the East to sit around and talk about feelings!

Whatever happened to Gawd, guns and guts making Murka great? Real Texans don't need nothin' but the Bible and President Drunkuncle's tweets!

 

[Hoid]

A Tale of Two Cities:


CHICAGO ...HOUSTON, TX
Population 2.7 million.. 2.15 million

Median HH Income
$38,600....$37,000

% African-American
38.9%....24%

% Hispanic
29.9%.....44%

% Asian
5.5%....6%

% Non-Hispanic White
28.7%....26%

Pretty similar until you compare the following:

Chicago, Il .. Houston, TX..

Concealed Carry - Legal
No.. Yes

Number of Gun Stores
None.....184 Dedicated gun stores plus 1500 - legal places to buy guns--Wal-Mart, K-mart, sporting goods, etc.

Homicides, 2012
1,806.....207

Homicides per 100K
38.4.....9.6

Avg. January high temperature (F)
31....63

Conclusion : Cold weather causes murders. This is due to climate change.

IN the last 5 years Chuck's Guns in Riverdale (just outside the ban zone) has sold 1,500 guns that have been confiscated by Chicago police.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

IN the last 5 years Chuck's Guns in Riverdale (just outside the ban zone) has sold 1,500 guns that have been confiscated by Chicago police.

Oh dear. How are we supposed to regulate our Militia well if the cops keep TAKIN' AHR GUUUUUNS?

 

[DaSleeper]

The question is "did gun violence go down after they confiscated all those guns?"

 

[Hoid]

Houston ranks above Chicago in violent crime

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate

 

[DaSleeper]

Oh look over there.................!

That didn't answer the question I posted.

 

[Hoid]

I think they generally confiscated them from corpses.

 

[Curious Cdn]

They should pass a law that somebody with a criminal or mental health record shouldn't be able to buy firearms.

That'll fix everything.

Makes a body wonder why they haven't already passed a law like that.

That'll disarm the NRA guys pdq.

All those Duck Dynasty militia hillbilly wing-nuts will have to take up dwarf bowling. Who's gonna run the Great Republic when those brainiacs can't pass the lucicity test?

 

[Colpy]

That'll disarm the NRA guys pdq.

All those Duck Dynasty militia hillbilly wing-nuts will have to take up dwarf bowling. Who's gonna run the Great Republic when those brainiacs can't pass the lucicity test?

If "those NRA guys" were disarmed, Devin Kelly might well have arrived at another church.

But a quiet, modest NRA firearms instructor took his AR 15 and ran towards the gunfire barefoot......and killed Kelly.

Pull your head out of your arse.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

If "those NRA guys" were disarmed, Devin Kelly might well have arrived at another church.

But a quiet, modest NRA firearms instructor took his AR 15 and ran towards the gunfire barefoot......and killed Kelly.

Pull your head out of your arse.

Allow me, sir.

Both Colpy and I, affirmed "gun nuts," absolutely agree that people with Kelley's kind of history should not be allowed to possess firearms (or rubber mallets). We are very upset, and more than a little pissed off, that the Air Force failed to pass on his criminal conviction information to the FBI (me more than Colpy, because I was USAF).

We are glad such laws exist, and we want them enforced more stringently.

Anybody who says we oppose such laws is a liar and/or fool.

 

[Angstrom]

Pull your head out of your arse.

Not likely. It’s up there way to deep

 

[Curious Cdn]

If "those NRA guys" were disarmed, Devin Kelly might well have arrived at another church.

But a quiet, modest NRA firearms instructor took his AR 15 and ran towards the gunfire barefoot......and killed Kelly.

Pull your head out of your arse.

Why wasn't the Pastor slingin' a .45 in a holster? Weaklings, eh tough guy?

Not likely. It’s up there way to deep

"Deep" is something that you'll never be, Junior

 

[Mowich]

Now I hear they're bring counselors into Sutherland Springs. Counselors! Can you believe it? Buncha hippy-dippy liberal arts majors from the East to sit around and talk about feelings!

Whatever happened to Gawd, guns and guts making Murka great? Real Texans don't need nothin' but the Bible and President Drunkuncle's tweets!

Okay.............that's it ...........Texas is off my bucket list.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

If "those NRA guys" were disarmed, Devin Kelly might well have arrived at another church.

But a quiet, modest NRA firearms instructor took his AR 15 and ran towards the gunfire barefoot......and killed Kelly.

Pull your head out of your arse.

Please, how about you do the same, Colpy.

Where did the church shooter get his weapon? Where did the shooter at Sandy Hook get his weapons? Where did the shooter in Las Vegas get his weapons? Where did the shooters at Columbine get their weapons. Where did the shooter in Orlando Florida get his weapon? Where did the shooter at Virginia Tech get his weapon? Where did the shooter in Sutherland Springs get his weapons?

I could go on and on. There are more than two dozen examples and let's be honest here, shall we.

The ****ing NRA fights tooth and nail against more stringent gun laws.

These kids were murdered because a mother had a gun fetish and a son who was mentally unstable.

GOD BLESS THE NRA. Bunch of scumbags.