20 Dead After Shooting at South Texas Church

Walter

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How is it typical? I thought you and your kind swore up and down Muzzie jihadis are the problem.

Muzzie jihadis are a lot of things, but atheist ain't one of them.

Try to get your story straight.
You thought wrong, as usual.
 

Colpy

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Colpy, come on man, you're a New Brunswicker.. this isn't a right vs left, conservative vs liberal.. this is common sense.

Yes there is a 2nd Amendment, but they still have gun laws on the books.

You know I advocate for gun rights, but after the Vegas shooting and now this.. there has to be some legislation, of some kind to keep high powered firearms that should be used in a war setting off the streets of America.

That said, I think that both Canada and the USA should allow Concealed Carry by every dam citizen, after passing a firearms course and background check.

It's been proven that States such as Texas, and Colorado who have Concealed Carry the crime rate when down, while in Chicago and New York with the strictest gun laws in the country murder and crime is up.

...and now look at our inner cities, like Vancouver and Toronto where the murder rate is now sky rocketing, people should have the right to protect themselves.


Between 210 and 2014 there were 43,002 firearms homicides in the USA.
Rifles of all types, not just military calibre rifles, were used in 1530 of those murders.
That is 3.5%
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u....able_8_murder_victims_by_weapon_2010-2014.xls
 

Hoid

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I am no expert but I do not believe that there is any proven direct correlation between CC laws and crime rates.

That is the fakest of news.
 

Jinentonix

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I don't think so. Trump has already commented on it.
Oh that's right. You're another mental midget that thinks Trump is a racist. :lol: Correct me if I'm wrong, but White, racist supremacists usually don't greatly increase funding to HCBUs. Particularly after the former President, who was Black, slashed their funding. Trump even raised the funding to a level that was higher than it was before O'Bumwad slashed it.
Remember back shortly after Trump was elected and the MSM was falling all over themselves about Conway sitting on a couch in the White House with her feet on it while taking a picture? They completely ignored what was going on in the rest of the photo which was Trump signing the document for the increase to HBCUs.
Even when Trump does something positive the neo-leftard shit bags just can't give him any credit for it because it flies in the face of the lies and propaganda.

And then there was the temporary travel bans. How is enacting the same travel ban that Obama enacted, TWICE, and that Bush enacted at least once, suddenly "racist" because Trump wanted to institute the same temporary travel ban? Funny how all those judges who were busy sucking off O'Bumwad decided that travel bans were unconstitutional only after he left office.
The travel ban wasn't racist either, otherwise the entire bulk of the global muslim population would have been prohibited from travelling to the US. That obviously wasn't the case.
Nor is the US-Mexico border wall/fence a racist concept. A wall/fence doesn't mean no Mexicans allowed. It simply means that entry must be done legally through a controlled access point. That's hardly a racist concept.

You know what's really funny though? There's video AND official transcripts of Obama addressing the need for much tighter border security along the Mexican-US border when he spoke to the Senate in 2006. Considering that Obama walked out of the White House worth around $8 million more than he should have been worth, seems like it didn't take much payola to make him do a complete 180 on his stance regarding the US-Mexico border.


Quit letting the MSM tell you what to think. Propaganda will rot your brain, if it already hasn't.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Oh that's right. You're another mental midget that thinks Trump is a racist. :lol: Correct me if I'm wrong, but White, racist supremacists usually don't greatly increase funding to HCBUs.
Or even HBCUs.

On the other hand, how many non-racists are prosecuted by the Justice Department for racial discrimination?

Particularly after the former President, who was Black, slashed their funding. Trump even raised the funding to a level that was higher than it was before O'Bumwad slashed it.
Remember back shortly after Trump was elected and the MSM was falling all over themselves about Conway sitting on a couch in the White House with her feet on it while taking a picture? They completely ignored what was going on in the rest of the photo which was Trump signing the document for the increase to HBCUs.
Even when Trump does something positive the neo-leftard shit bags just can't give him any credit for it because it flies in the face of the lies and propaganda.
I will agree with you on this. And frankly, you should be glad of it. By shrieking outrage at every breath President Drunkuncle draws, they are sidelining themselves for 2020, and possibly even 2018. The boy who cried wolf and all that.

And then there was the temporary travel bans. How is enacting the same travel ban that Obama enacted, TWICE, and that Bush enacted at least once, suddenly "racist" because Trump wanted to institute the same temporary travel ban? Funny how all those judges who were busy sucking off O'Bumwad decided that travel bans were unconstitutional only after he left office.
The travel ban wasn't racist either, otherwise the entire bulk of the global muslim population would have been prohibited from travelling to the US. That obviously wasn't the case.
There was a good bit more to the legal analysis than what you present. I won't comment at all on your apparent conviction that the Federal judiciary is all, or even mostly, shrieking lefties, because I can't think of anything productive to say.
Nor is the US-Mexico border wall/fence a racist concept. A wall/fence doesn't mean no Mexicans allowed. It simply means that entry must be done legally through a controlled access point. That's hardly a racist concept.
Agreed. Though President Drunkuncle claiming without evidence that Mexico was sending rapists and drug dealers, and claiming that a U.S.-born judge couldn't be fair because his ancestors were from Mexico didn't really help burnish his non-racist credentials.

You know what's really funny though? There's video AND official transcripts of Obama addressing the need for much tighter border security along the Mexican-US border when he spoke to the Senate in 2006. Considering that Obama walked out of the White House worth around $8 million more than he should have been worth, seems like it didn't take much payola to make him do a complete 180 on his stance regarding the US-Mexico border.
You have just accused Obama of taking bribes while he was President. I await your evidence.
 

PoliticalNick

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So how did CC laws help prevent this church slaughter?

When someone else pulled a gun and started shooting back he tried to flee.

Now if he thought everyone in the church was going to draw and open fire at him immediately he probably wouldn't have done it in the first place. Seriously if these idiots knew most of the population was armed and ready to shoot back a lot of these events would never take place.
 

Cannuck

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When someone else pulled a gun and started shooting back he tried to flee.

Now if he thought everyone in the church was going to draw and open fire at him immediately he probably wouldn't have done it in the first place. Seriously if these idiots knew most of the population was armed and ready to shoot back a lot of these events would never take place.

These incidents aren't taking place in Canada at anything close to the rate they are in Canada and they can be pretty sure that Canadians won't be firing back

 

TenPenny

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When someone else pulled a gun and started shooting back he tried to flee.

Now if he thought everyone in the church was going to draw and open fire at him immediately he probably wouldn't have done it in the first place. Seriously if these idiots knew most of the population was armed and ready to shoot back a lot of these events would never take place.



So, everyone in Texas knows that many people are armed, which will prevent these events, except for when it doesn't prevent these events because people who want to do this don't care if they live or die, so it makes no difference. In fact, they're expecting to go out in a blaze of glory, that's the whole point.
 

Colpy

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I am no expert but I do not believe that there is any proven direct correlation between CC laws and crime rates.

That is the fakest of news.

I can't speak for Boomer, but I have never said there was...........crime rates and murder rates have nothing to do with guns.

The falling crime rate is a result of other factors, mainly demographics.

However, what is proven by falling crime rates and increasing availability of guns and concealed carry is guns do not drive murder rates.