Jagmeet Singh is a hypocrite

spilledthebeer

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Here is some hard math you wont like either! It exposes LIE-beral bigotry and desperation! And that air head Singh supports a less logical version of LIE-beral policy! Neither LIE-berals nor NDPers could save the environment if we wrapped it in a blanket and put it in a box for them!

Here is a nice article proving yet again that Our brainless Boy prime minster Trudope is talking through his hat on climate change issues! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Trudeau’s magical, mystery climate plan! By Lorrie Goldstein, Toronto Sun

First posted: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 06:02 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 06:12 PM EDT

Canada’s approach to “fighting” climate change is based on magical thinking.
Consider: Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced to much fanfare that he is going to ratify the Paris climate treaty.

In doing so, he has pledged to lower our industrial greenhouse gas emissions linked to climate change to the same levels as former prime minister Stephen Harper promised, back when the Liberals called Harper a climate denier.

Trudeau is never going to achieve Harper’s targets -- 17% below 2005 levels by 2020, 30% below by 2030 -- because our current level of technology makes it impossible to do so without causing a massive recession.

(I say the ONLY way to make such massive cuts is to FORBID us to use some of our technology and no democratic govt can simply order you not to heat your house or drive your car or operate your business! Govt hope for carbon reduction MUST have the support of the majority of Cdns if there is to be success in the long term!)

Harper was never going to achieve Harper’s targets.

In fact, no Canadian prime minister going back to Brian Mulroney, through Jean Chretien, Paul Martin, Harper and, as we shall soon see, Trudeau, has ever come close to meeting his promised emission cuts, which keep getting watered down even though they’re still impossible to meet today.

But even if every nation on Earth, including Canada, fulfilled its emission cuts submitted to the UN -- also impossible -- all the Paris treaty would do, according to climate scientists, is lock the world into dangerous global warming, far above the 1.5C to 2C threshold they say is the upper limit.

If Canada, or any country, fails to achieve its emission targets under the Paris treaty, nothing happens.

The treaty has no mandatory deadlines or penalties for failing to reach these targets.

(All the Carbon Crap and Trade deals being set up by govts have NOTHING to do with environment and they have EVERYTHING to do with fueling that rich govt gravy train! It`s not a CARBON PLAN Our brainless Boy is crafting-it`s a GET RICH QUICK PENSION SCAM for the benefit of civil servants!)

All the Paris treaty requires is that countries report their targets and progress made towards achieving them, but there is no penalty if they don’t.

(Its just like the not so reliable reporting on the performance of the Greek economy- shortly before it fell into a death spiral! Paris Accord numbers will be no more reliable than Greek govt bonds!)

Trudeau and Climate Change Minister Catherine McKenna say they are going to establish a national carbon price following negotiations with the provinces.

But even if they succeed in bringing in a national carbon price of, say, $30 a tonne, the level of B.C.’s carbon tax and the highest in the country at present, emissions will be virtually untouched.

(IN fact the BIGGEST carbon producers will continue as if nothing has changed! Corporations are all making plans to DEMAND exemptions from govt-this is why European Carbon crap deals have not cleared their air! So either govt will EXEMPT companies or watch as jobs and revenue will LEAVE CANADA-this is one main reason why General Motors has not yet committed to any new production at their Oshawa Plant-in spite of that plant consistently having the highest quality workmanship in North America! GM is waiting to see how stupid Our Boy and the Wynne-bag will be over carbon `deals`.)

The B.C. government itself says its revenue neutral carbon tax, widely praised as one of the best in the world, is only going to reduce B.C.’s emissions by three megatonnes (Mt) annually by 2020.

By contrast, if Trudeau is to make good on Harper’s target for 2020, which is now his target, Canada will have to reduce its emissions by 146 Mt.

That’s the equivalent of shutting down Canada’s electricity sector, which emits 78.2 Mt of GHG annually, along with most of the agriculture sector, which emits 72.9 Mt of GHG annually, in less than five years.

Canada would need a carbon tax of at least $150-per-tonne to achieve these kinds of emission cuts that quickly, which would destroy our economy.

(And such costs would result in a revolution with LIE-beral knuckleheads thrown out of office!)

The only way to achieve cuts at the level and speed the Trudeau government is promising would be through a revenue neutral scheme called carbon fee and dividend, in which every dollar the government imposes in carbon taxes is returned to the public through equal, monthly, dividend cheques.

(And as we know that revenue neutral approach will NOT fly for LIE-berals as their party policy DEMANDS they supply massive new buckets of gravy for civil service Hogs. For LIE-berals-no new flow of gravy equals election DEFEAT as Hogs seek out better deals with other parties! Besides which a `revenue neutral` deal will STILL CAUSE massive upheaval! Its all very well to offer govt cash to people who will park their car and take transit- but the existing transit is already OVERLOADED at peak hours! With NO practical govt plan in sight to build MORE!)

But our politicians aren’t going to do that because it wouldn’t increase government revenues, which is their real aim, as opposed to reducing emissions.

What Trudeau’s carbon pricing scheme will actually become is a permanent sin tax imposed on Canadians, punishing them for the sin of using fossil fuel energy, which will swell government revenues by billions of dollars annually but do nothing to reduce emissions. That’s what happened in Europe and it’s exactly what’s going to happen here.

(Govt has not crafted an environmental plan-what they have created is ONLY A HOG PENSION PLAN!)

(If govt was serious about the environment, their quickest and easiest way to clear the air is to cut back on Hog gravy-AND balance the budget and stop piling up economy killing debt in the process!)

(In the NINE MONTHS after 9/11 World Trade Centre attack, during which time 25 percent of the worlds airliners were grounded, there WAS MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENT in air quality!)

(If ALL the pollution from transportation-that means planes, trains, ships, buses. trucks-whether hauling cargo or people is added up-75-85 percent of ALL pollution produced by transportation was spewed out by air planes. Air trave; is the DIRTIEST WAY to go!)

(Over a decade ago LIE-beral Dalton McGinty mused: “its time for govt-meaning LIE-berals-to start picking economic winners and losers in Ontari-owe. He omitted the part about LIE-berals picking environmental winners and losers! WE need to heat our homes, need to heat our hospitals, schools and businesses.)

(The woman who drives her car to late shift work because she does not feel safe on public transit is TWICE a sinner! First, she drives the filthy car instead of taking transit. Second she INSULTS LIE-beral minded `hug a thug` judges running the legal system for so called public benefit! While judges also deliberately misrepresent the scale of crime!)

(What LIE-beral hug a thug judges won’ admit is the amount of plea bargaining that goes on-how major crimes become minor and the minor become forgotten and thus its ever easier to parole THUGS who would have seen serious jail time for their sins only a couple of decades ago. LIE-berals REFUSE to track crime honestly but they will now seek to fiscally punish a woman who damages THEIR environment by driving a car to work so she can feel safe!)

(Or the person in the small Ontari-owe town who MUST have a car because there is No public transit. No matter that the person was born there, nor that they retired there to save a few pennies and certainly no matter that the only job they could get is in that small town! Those small town hicks are driving cars and in LIE-beral eyes, they are EVIL and MUST pay the price. And it’s no skin off LIE-beral noses that small town types don’t vote LIE-beral anyway-so screw them twice!)

(What of your old granny who drives her car to get her groceries and run her errands and visit her friends? LIE-berals say SCREW HER TOO-there are busses for her to use-or taxis! Too bad if govt solutions are inconvenient or too slow to suit your Granny!)

(LIE-berals NEED more gravy to please their Hog supporters and ordinary people MUST PAY. LIE-berals don’t care that the Hog gravy will be used for airline tickets-the dirty way to see the world! Don’t care that gravy will be used to fuel up motorboats ripping for miles along Trent/Severn Waterways with twin 600 HP diesel engines spewing smog for Hog amusement. Don’t care about the riding lawn mowers driven by `Sunshine List`Hogs on their multi acre estates that spew out more dirt in 5 minutes than the car Granny has been driving on the highway for an hour. Don’t care about the Muskoka `bubble systems` used to protect Hog docks from ice damage in winter-LIE-berals see no irony in using public money for ads to exhort us to save electricity while IGNORING those electrically powered bubble systems that are simply a CONVENIENCE for HOGS. Don’t care that Hogs will use their gravy to heat SECOND homes-the recreational ones in Muskoka while LIE-berals fret over what ordinary people do with their share of fossil fuels! Don’t care that Hog gravy will be used to operate a plethora of gas guzzling toys for Hog amusement while the rest of us wrestle with energy poverty! LIE-berals HAVE THEIR priorities!)
 

Bar Sinister

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Here is the reality of LIE-beral thought and wisdom:

Here is an article illustrating that history repeats itself-and that some Cdns just don’t learn-with some comments of my own in brackets):

Justin Trudeau following his dad's bad fiscal planning

By Lorrie Goldstein, Toronto Sun. First posted: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 07:37 AM EST | Updated: Tuesday, February 07, 2017 07:41 AM EST

Call it like father, like son.

A new study by the Fraser Institute suggests Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is taking the nation’s finances down the same black hole of never-ending deficits and debt that his late father did when he was prime minister in the 1970s and early 1980s.

“Because the federal government seems to be on the road to revisiting the damaging fiscal policies of the 1970s,” Lakehead University economics Professor Livio Di Matteo warns in, A Federal Fiscal History: Canada, 1867 to 2017, “Canadians should question whether we’re embarking on another transitional period ... that, like Lester Pearson’s and Pierre Trudeau’s time in office, will lead to years of deficits and ultimately another debt crisis.”

(Is it a hard thing to understand that Our idiot Boy Justin HAS absorbed ALL of his fathers vile values and beliefs? The idiot son shares Pierre`s nasty anti western values. Its why Pierre spoke fondly of French Vichy govt collaborating with Nazis, why he spoke of the British war against Hitler as “British Imperialism”, why he spoke in favour of Soviet leader Stalin. The Trudope boys Justin and Sacha are no more fond of democracy and western values than their father-its why Sacha worked with Iranian Mullahs and Muslim approved film makers to produce anti Israel and anti Yankee films, its why Sacha wrote his notorious “love letter” to Castro, why Justin spoke of Cuban dictator Castro as the great man ahead of all ELECTED South American leaders. The Trudopes want to destroy what Pierre called “Canadian Imperialism” and he considered Cdn war support against Hitler as morally wrong!)

Di Matteo says that aside from global wars and economic downturns, “the only other time the federal government kicked off a deficit spending spree and expanded the size and role of the federal government, was in the mid-1960s and 1970s under (Liberal prime ministers) Lester Pearson and then Pierre Trudeau.”

That is, Di Matteo warns, until the election of Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government in 2015.

He notes that Pierre Trudeau never once delivered a balanced budget during his 14 years as prime minister from 1969 to 1984 (interrupted only briefly by the nine-month Joe Clark Progressive Conservative government of 1979 to 1980), leaving behind a massive, for the time, $37.2 billion annual deficit in his final year in office.

Under Pierre Trudeau, Di Matteo says, government program spending skyrocketed from $12.9 billion to $84.3 billion, the net federal debt ballooned from $19.3 billion to $212.6 billion and the debt-to-GDP ratio, a key indicator of overall economic health, soared from 23% to 42.2%.

Di Matteo warns that given Justin Trudeau’s financial track record so far, he appears to be following in his father’s footsteps.

During the 2015 federal election, Trudeau promised Canadians that in order to fulfill his election promises, his government would record projected deficits of $9.9 billion in 2016-17, $9.5 billion in 2017-18, $5.7 billion in 2018-2019, and a surplus of $1 billion in 2019-2020.

He also promised that by 2019-2020, the Liberals would reduce the debt-to-GDP ratio from 30% to 27%.

But following the election, when the Liberals presented their first budget in March, 2016, Trudeau almost tripled his projected 2016-17 deficit to $29.4 billion, followed by $29 billion in 2017-18, $22.8 billion in 2018-19, $17.7 billion in 2019-20 and $14.3 billion in 2020-21.

Since then, the Trudeau Liberals have added $31.7 billion to their projected deficits and abandoned their election promises to eliminate the deficit by 2019 and to reduce the debt-to-GDP ratio to 27% by that year.

Indeed, Di Matteo notes, under Trudeau’s current fiscal plan, program spending is projected to hit $291.4 billion this year, a $40 billion increase from 2014, while the net debt of $727.5 billion this year will increase to $759.5 billion in 2017-18.

(Trudope thinking has always been clear and obvious and based on Soviet revolutionary thinking which dictated what conditions the revolution needed to succeed. The revolutionary Bakunin stated: “it is not necessary for the majority of people to support the revolution, all that is needed for the revolution to succeed is that the majority no longer support their existing institutions and become willing to consider alternatives”!)

(Trudope style thinking indicates that national bankruptcy and economic upheaval WILL produce that public doubt about our existing values and institutions and in such confusion, the well organized revolutionary-leading a pack of selfish LIE-berals and supported by a mass of willfully blind gravy craving civil service Hogs will cut through and channel public anger and gain power over the confused and dismayed masses!)

(This is also why the Trudopes are so happy to welcome unskilled immigrants and refugees from the third world since such people are so often already dis-enchanted with western values! It`s why LIE-berals are short changing Cdn military veterans and reneging on promised aid to vets and its why LIE-berals have restored funding to terror group Hamas and its why Our idiot Boy Justin has insisted on restoring citizenship to the convicted leader of the terrorist Toronto 18 group instead of firing the guy back out of Canada! The Trudopes are organizing a Cdn style political coup designed to make over Canada in their anti western and “anti imperialist image.)

I wonder why the Fraser Institute doesn't worry about the Prime Ministers who added the greatest total to Canada's national debt, namely Mulroney and Harper?
 

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I wonder why the Fraser Institute doesn't worry about the Prime Ministers who added the greatest total to Canada's national debt, namely Mulroney and Harper?


More like Trudeau and Mulroney! :) When we look back on Jag Sing in the future, is he going to be considered a great force in Canadian Politics..........................possibly not!
 

spilledthebeer

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More like Trudeau and Mulroney! :) When we look back on Jag Sing in the future, is he going to be considered a great force in Canadian Politics..........................possibly not!

Oh I am sorry- you are WRONG! Mulroney was the worst Conservative prime minster- but still WAY BEHIND the Trudopes! AND WAY BEHIND the LIE-beral/NDP alliances that were formed when LIE-berals got minority govt!

Statistics canada has told us that Cdn debt generally rises fastest when we have minority LIE-beral/NDP govt - which should be food for thought if Jag Singh gets hold of any real power! But if you get into Cdn RECORD DEBT you must look to the two Trudopes as being all time biggest spenders!

Your comments on Harper are the usual LIES told by Hogs! Now- consider who hates Harper:

Here is an old article- dusted off and recycled because it is still relevant today! Its asks and answers the question: “who hates Stephen Harper- and any other Cdn Conservative”?

Who hates Harper and Conservatives? Here is a partial list:

People who have relatives, friends and neighbours serving with Isis, Al Qaeda, Hezzbolla, Al Aqsa, Taliban, Boko Haram etc, all HATE Harper because they are afraid that Cdn soldiers will shoot their friends, relatives and neighbours during Muslim terror events!

People with a pathological hatred of Americans and all they stand for-and INCLUDING a hatred of the freedom and democracy that Yankees AND Cdns ALSO enjoy. They mocked American concerns about Communism but think the world (by which they mean ugly Yankees) should have done more to protect Cambodians from Pol Pot and Khymer Rouge assassins in The Killing Fields. They blame Cuban poverty ENTIRELY on the US trade embargo-while ignoring the trade opportunities the inept Cuban economy could not benefit from in all of South America.

Some people hate Harper because he won't simply throw open the borders and let any jackass walk in……no matter how vile they are or what criminal violence they intend to commit when they get here.

Some people think Harper is a wimp and his wife a shameful slut because he lets her appear in public without wearing a Burqa.

Some people think all Cdns (especially Harper) are damned forever because they do not yield to Sharia law.

Some people who have never read any valid basic literature about economic issues think Harper is a fool for worrying about national debt levels.

Some people who have never read a history book and don’t realize that what Putin is doing in Ukraine is a close copy of the playbook used by Adolf Hitler to occupy much of Europe.

Some people think that because Harper supports having a strong Cdn army and because having such an army is costly and takes money away from social spending, that Harper must be immoral and a bully …..and it is these same people who would also be the FIRST to blame `others` (read Americans) for `stirring up trouble` and not properly protecting them if they got blown up by suicide bombers.

Some people are hypocrites and blame Americans for all the problems of the world, including blaming America for not doing more to protect their home country from dictators and invasions and civil wars and these hypocrites will also quietly send their own family members off to safe havens in other countries to protect them from the violent death they demand that American soldiers risk for the benefit of people who HATE Americans and these hypocrites also consider Harper to be vile because he is friendly with Americans…..who just happen to be CLOSE allies offering major protection for Canada.

Radical environmentalist who run up HUGE carbon footprints while flying around the world and staying in fine hotels and eating good food and drinking fine wines while trying to implement economic policies that would leave most of us starving and freezing in the dark also hate Harper because he scorns their hypocrite message.

Some people support carbon taxes because they have a secret agenda which motivates them to tell lies and claim carbon taxes `work` when there is AMPLE PROOF based on the European model that they DON'T work! The only `work` a carbon tax does is CLEAN OUT THE WALLETS of ordinary people while giving the most wealthy members of our society (politicians and civil servants) a GIANT slush fund they can dip into so they can continue to ramp up THEIR carbon foot print. The carbon foot print of ordinary people (those who don’t have a place in the government financed gravy train) shrinks while the carbon footprint of hogs at the trough expands like a hot air balloon full of Lie-beral entitlements-and eliminates the benefits of our sacrifice!

Some people claim that the best way to reverse global warming is to ruin the poorest Canadians by closing down industries they deem to dirty and forcing Cdns out of work and forcing Cdns to give up their cars while ignoring the fact that 75 percent of all the air pollution related to `transportation` is produced by airplanes. Transportation is defined as anything (planes, trains, automobiles, trucks, ships) that carry any type of goods or passengers or services. A twenty five percent reduction in pollution from cars is negligible in the global picture since modern cars are such a small part of the total of pollution sources but a twenty five percent reduction in aircraft miles flown is a MAJOR environmental influence. In the 9 months after the 9/11 terror attack when twenty five percent of the world airline fleet was grounded, there was MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENT in global air quality. We need food delivered, need industrial activity to clothe and feed and house ourselves. WE DON’T need a swarm of overpaid civil servants jetting off for fun and games in the sun around the increasingly polluted world at our expense and some people hate Harper for not accepting their hypocrite views on how to solve global warming !

Justin Trudope hates Harper because Harper is smarter and keeps exposing the moral and intellectual limitations of Trudope.

Vicious criminals hate Harper because, thanks to Harper, it is now a little harder to find a `get out of jail free card` now that so many `hug a thug` Lie-beral appointees have been replaced by Conservatives.

Civil service Hogs hate Harper and Conservatives because they are threatening to destroy the wildly costly govt gravy train after the next Ontari-owe election in June, 2018.
 

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I think it was Bill Davis who said, "Don't rub it too hard. You'll scratch the paint."

Yes- and that saying goes perfectly with LIE-beral; policy!

Consider:
Here is an article that exposes the fiscal failings of Ontari-owe LIE-berals in the long term. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Balanced budgets likely not in Ontario future: FAO

The Canadian Press. First posted: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 01:17 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 01:21 PM EDT

Ontario’s budget opens the spending tap, drowns Ontarians in more debt
Ontario’s ‘balanced’ budget still adding to our debt
Ontario’s economy a house of cards

TORONTO - Ontario’s budget watchdog says the province’s budget will steadily deteriorate into deficit after this fiscal year- 2017. The Liberal government delivered a balanced budget this year, and projects it will stay in the black for at least the next two years. But the financial accountability officer says in a report Wednesday that staying in balance will likely require additional fiscal measures.

(Which translates from “LIE-beral speak” into plain English as HIGHER TAXES! Ontari-owe, Quebec and California have joined together in a Carbon crap and trade scam modelled on the disgraced European model riddled with criminal fraud and false reporting of green house gas emissions- with California planning a fifteen percent INCREASE to its carbon tax for 2018- and further future increases in excess of 10 percent per year! It offers a HUGE cash flow for LIE-berals and one that we cannot afford since we are already drowning in debt and the carbon crp DOES NOT clean the air- it ONLY cleans wallets of cash-as the Europeans have proved!)

The report says this year there is strong tax revenue — such as income tax and land transfer tax due to a hot housing market — and there is one-time revenue, such as from the partial sale of Hydro One.

(And of course LIE-berals have killed off the “hot housing market” so there will not be grand revenue from that- with dire consequences for both Ontari-owe and City of Toronto- with Toronto even more vulnerable than Queens Park and looking at a gaping hole in its yearly budget!)

But after this year, the financial accountability officer is projecting more moderate growth and higher expenses, leading to deficits.

(At a point AFTER the accountability officer wrote this report- LIE-berals read the tea leaves and decided their future does not include an election victory in June/2018 and that they will be out of power for the next four years- but LIE-berals HAVE moved to protect their civil service Hog pals by offering them raises in pay totaling 7.5 percent over the next 4 years. Hogs have resigned themselves to this offer- one they see as TOTALLY INADEQUATE but have accepted the 7.5 percent as being the best offer they will be getting in the next few years! Hog pension plans are so rich that LIE-berals cannot shovel in the cash fast enough to keep the plans from collapsing into bankruptcy- hence the LIE-beral price gouging on electricity and the closing of electricity account books so the public will not be able to see what manner fo slush fund LIE-berals have built on electricity!)

(OSSTF/Ontari-owe high school teachers alone are looking at a pension deficit and debt totaling 55 billion dollars by 2018- with another 18 civil service unions right behind OSSTF and ALL with their hands out DEMANDING BILLIONS of dollars that we just do not have! This is the face of LIE-beral bankruptcy! LIE-berals cannot pay for the promises already made and certainly cannot pay for any new promises and cannot get elected without Hog support so LIE-berals must keep shovelling whatever cash they can find into Hog pockets- it wont be enough to make Hogs satisfied but it will probably ensure continued Hog support for LIE-berals- and this will ensure that inhabitants of Ontari-owe continue brawling over taxes and debts- with LIE-berals counting on us having short memories and re-electing them in 2022!)

Finance Minister Charles Sousa says his projections are prudent and take into account the growing economy.

(Too bad Sousa does not take into account frozen wages, reduced work hours and jobs lost as companies either close up and move out of Ontari-owe or cut costs by laying off people who will then turn to unemployment insurance and welfare- thus producing more soaring debt for both govt and for private people. Financial fake news maker Sousa has provided a carefully edited version of the world seen through HIS rose coloured glasses and he assumes- probably correctly- that he will never be called to account for his baloney as its likely he will NOT be finance minister- nor much of anything else after June 2018!)

(Whoever forms the next govt will certainly TRY to honestly blame LIE-berals for cooking the books with their 2017 “hells Kitchen Budget” and LIE-berals will shoot back a smoke screen calling the new govt bad accountants and poor money managers! And of course whoever forms the next govt will START their budget process with at least a 2 percent shortfall thanks to those Hog contracts just signed by LIE-berals and the reduced revenue form house sale and will have an additional hole to fi;; since Ontari-owe Hydro can only be sold once- and LIE-berlas have already cashed that in! Since voer 75 percent of Ontari-owe tax revenue is spent on Hog salaries and pensions, LIE-berals have essentially tied the hands of the next govt with massive debt, long term and quite costly green energy contracts and union Hog wage deals! And Sousa and his pals think they can blow enough smoke to HIDE these facts from us!)
 

spilledthebeer

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I wonder why the Fraser Institute doesn't worry about the Prime Ministers who added the greatest total to Canada's national debt, namely Mulroney and Harper?

HEY TURNIP! STOP TELLING THE STUPID LIES!

Firstly- the two most wasteful Cdn leaders ARE Our idiot Boy Justin in first place and his vile father Pierre Trudope in second place! LIE-berals have NO answr to any logical analysis except name calling and FAKE NEWS! As the example below reveals:

A while back I made some comments about Our Brainless Boy-prime minster Justin Trudope and his mad scheme to borrow enough money to make us rich-in unconscious imitation of that other imbecile Bob (BOOB!) Rae. And a garbage response was posted by disgruntled LIE-berals. And I have to ask: is it not disgraceful that LIE-berals have nothing more to support and justify their economic madness than stuff like this:

Duhhhh stupid dum dumby retard dumb duhhhhhhhhhhh fart piss shit blapt drool drooling duhhhhhhhhhhh shit fart piss
"Our boy with nice hair" Stupid lie retard dart shit piss dummy dumb dummer stupid dumb retard ****ed stupid stupidity lazy **** dummy dumb
"lie-bral" crap (shit, stupidity drooler duhhh duh retard liar fart duh dummies) fart

The LIE-beral went on like this for several more paragraphs but you get the idea-that LIE-berals have NO real facts to defend their positions on anything! Its all just LIE-beral monkeys screaming for more bananas and throwing their shit at people who don’t have any bananas!

People KNOW that the Justin Trudope `plan` to rebuild our economy is simply a bigger, more costly version of the already disgraced Boob Rae plan that brought us `Rae days` and led to an enraged public voting for Mike Harris. But they were hoping we would not notice-and after all, THEY didn’t! The above LIE-beral response clearly indicates that LIE-berals have been backed into an intellectual corner and have NO intelligent way out!

How bad is it for LIE-berals? Their plan for electric cars is foundering due to uncontrolled car production costs, concerns over inadequate car operating range with current battery technology-as well as the reality that the Tesla Gigafactory may NEVER produce a single battery as technology is advancing rapidly enough that the plant and its planned product may be obsolete before its completed, and there are increasing concerns over HUGE Lithium pollution from battery plants.

LIE-beral carbon cap and trade garbage has been scorned by businesses and investors that refused to buy into the Ontari-owe plan that is nothing but a rip off of the scandal plagued European crap and trade plan. With the collapse of their carbon price plan, most of the LIE-beral spending initiatives and hopes for balancing the budget are now dead for lack of cash.

LIE-beral green energy plans are going mouldy green due to soaring costs and idiot planning that requires us to keep natural gas fired plants running all day every day just in case the sun doesn’t shine and wind doesn’t blow. This means NO benefit to environment since we are burning huge quantities of fossil fuel obtained by fracking simply as backup for unreliable green energy. And running both green energy AND gas plants is costly duplication of effort so NO fiscal benefit from green energy to ordinary people!

Although the Hogs who invested in the green crap are making big windfall profits while wrecking the Ontari-owe economy with idiot energy costs! And they are using that good gravy to maintain their already LARGE carbon footprint produced by bigger houses, larger suv`s and gas guzzling recreational toys of every sort!

The Ontari-owe LIE-beral pension plan has been scorned as unaffordable and sneered at as a job killer-both accusations being fair and proper! Even otherwise free spending Federal LIE-berals recognize that the economy would take too big a hit if the new pension plan was implemented now so their pension plan will be deferred for several years in hope that things will look better economically later-good luck with that since Our Brainless Boy is killing us off with his mad BOOB Rae style spending!

Sadly the Ontari-owe LIE-beral pension plan-now happily killed off by the now deferred Federal pension initiative -was nothing but a scam to produce a giant slush fund for LIE-berals to dip into as necessary to BUY votes. It was nothing but a more elaborate version of the pension promises made in previous decades to Hogs! Federal LIE-berals owe their Hogs well over 300 hundred billion dollars with another 250-300 billion owed by Ontari-owe govt. The municipalities and crown corporations have not yet deigned to tell us what they owe!

Ontari-owe high school teachers have the single largest pension management fund in all of North America and it will be going bankrupt some time around 2018 UNLESS they get an infusion of new cash in the neighbourhood of fifty five billion dollars! LIE-berals are desperate for `new revenue tools` as they rob Peter to pay Paul-with the added bonus that they MUST bribe Hogs with endless gravy that they don’t have or they will be defeated in the next election! It’s a fools game of ring around the rosy-a pocket full of cannot be honoured IOU`s-all held by LIE-berals!
 

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HEY TURNIP! STOP TELLING THE STUPID LIES!

Firstly- the two most wasteful Cdn leaders ARE Our idiot Boy Justin in first place and his vile father Pierre Trudope in second place! LIE-berals have NO answr to any logical analysis except name calling and FAKE NEWS! As the example below reveals:

A while back I made some comments about Our Brainless Boy-prime minster Justin Trudope and his mad scheme to borrow enough money to make us rich-in unconscious imitation of that other imbecile Bob (BOOB!) Rae. And a garbage response was posted by disgruntled LIE-berals. And I have to ask: is it not disgraceful that LIE-berals have nothing more to support and justify their economic madness than stuff like this:


All kinds of bullshyt deleted.


Wow, What you need to do, little boy, is take a deep breathe, then look in a mirror, and say.... THERE is the biggest hypocrite in Canada, all the while pointing at the mirror.
 

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Wow, What you need to do, little boy, is take a deep breathe, then look in a mirror, and say.... THERE is the biggest hypocrite in Canada, all the while pointing at the mirror.

HAHAHAHA!!! Being the big child you are you will know the joke about where most of the fingers are pointed! And...the REALLY FUNNY THING about your post- oh sure-_ I call the LIE-berals names as they deserve- BUT I ALSO SUPPLY FACTS- something you LIE-berals and less intelligent NDP cousins cannot do!

ALL YOU HAVE IS NAME CALLING! NOTHING ELSE!!!!

And here is more information regarding the MANY collapsing policies of LIE-beral mutton heads:

Here is an article illustrating that LIE-berals are giving us utterly FAKE NEWS about our economy. With some comments of my own in brackets):

Toronto food bank usage at recession levels.

THE CANADIAN PRESS. FIRST POSTED: MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2017 09:55 AM EDT | UPDATED: MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 2017 04:28 PM EDT

TORONTO - Food bank visits in Canada’s most populous city are back up to levels seen after the last recession hit the country, with a spike in the number of seniors accessing their services in the last year, according to a report released Monday.

The Daily Bread Food Bank’s annual report shows that there were nearly one million food bank visits in Toronto between April last year and March this year. The figure is the highest number in the city since 2010, which is when the organization says the effects of the 2008 recession hit residents the hardest.

It also says people are relying on food banks longer than before with the average length increasing to 24 months in 2017, up from 12 months in 2010.

The numbers suggest a state of affairs that is not being captured by standard economic indicators, the food bank said.

(LIE-beral calculations on a host of things are deliberately skewed! For instance it was LIE-beral Jean Chretien who changed how full time work was measured- previously you were working `full time` if you had 40 hours per week- but to make the unemployment numbers look better LIE-berals decided you would be `fully employed` if you had 28 hours of work- and too bad if you cannot live on that! LIE-beral Chretien also monkeyed with rules for access to unemployment insurance thus allowing some people to fall off the govt radar and not be counted. LIE-beral claims regarding our economy are as suspect as their assurances that our massive debt is not a problem!)

“While we’re having this on-paper economic prosperity, we’re seeing many people who are falling out of the labour market due to age or disability or people who are struggling within the labour market because of the instability of the work that they’re getting,” said Richard Matern, Daily Bread’s director of research and communications.

(LIE-berals do Not want to discuss the fact that of those who retire voluntarily before age 65- two thirds are civil service Hogs with those fabulous pensions that are breaking our economy! Private sector simply cannot afford to retire in the luxury that Hogs wallow in! With the added bonus that LIE-berals INSIST that you retired voluntarily if you took the buy out from your collapsing industry because the buy out was better than staying on the job for another 6 months and then being thrown out with NOTHING!)

(LIE-berals completely ignore the tens of thousands of Cdns wh could anc would and quite often NEED to work- if only they could find a job in our debauched and over taxed economy! In an effort to handle their gross debts, LIE-berals have reduced interest rates to record lows and thus screwed millions of Cdns who are trying to live on meagre little pensions with utterly inadequate returns on investment that simply do NOT cover massive LIE-beral tax increases on EVERYTHING! It is the LIE-beral Carbon crap and trade scam that is behind much of the fiscal trouble and it is LIE-beral desire to cling to power at any price by buying Hog votes that is the other major economy killer!)

Though people 65 and over make up a relatively small proportion of food bank users, they have become the fastest-rising age group of clients, the report says. The number of seniors accessing food banks has gone up nearly 27 per cent since last year, compared with other age groups which have shown an increase between 14 and 18 per cent, it says.

(Greedy LIE-berals are willing to sneer at and dismiss poverty stricken seniors because LIE-berals regard them as sloppy and careless as they should have saved more for their old age- that LIE-berals have taxed Cdns so heavily that its not possible to save any significant pile of pennies is not understood by greedy LIE-berals! Nor do LIE-berals wish to discuss the massive flood of Hog pension money- all of it borrowed- and which ordinary people MUST pay back for entitled Hogs- that is gobbling up all decent investments! Hog pension fund managers with billions of dollars under their control have shoved aside ordinary Cdns trying to invest their pennies!)

“What we saw is what happens when there’s a group that’s on a fixed income and is particularly vulnerable to rising costs like we saw in Toronto in the areas of housing and in food, in certain cases,” Matern said.

“Many seniors, the most common reason that they’ve had to skip food for, they say, is rent and also prescription drugs,” he said.

(LIE-berals do not understand why stupid old folks do not move out of the city to some small town where its cheaper to live. LIE-berals forget that there is NO public transit in most towns in Canada and often no hospital either thanks to LIE-beral `economies` in health care either so as soon as a senior becomes ill an extended and costly trip BACK to the city and its health services is required! With the added bonus that moving away from the city means leaving behind friends and family to go into relative isolation out in the woods!)

“So many seniors who are of course less likely to be getting support from other sources or who are less likely to be able to get outside sources of income such as employment and also have greater health-care needs are more vulnerable to these types of changes in the economy around inflation.”

Wanda Morris, vice-president of advocacy for CARP, formerly known as the Canadian Association for Retired Persons, said the rise in food bank use among seniors is “a huge concern.”

One factor may be that seniors aren’t getting all the support they are entitled to, she said, particularly through the Guaranteed Income Supplement program.

Low-income seniors are eligible for the program if they receive Old Age Security, have an annual income below a specific threshold and have lived in Canada at least 10 years. But research shows thousands of seniors who qualify aren’t claiming it, Morris said.

“Part of the problem isn’t that there isn’t a program, it’s how do we get our most vulnerable seniors to take advantage of what is available for them,” she said, noting that many seniors don’t have internet access.

(OH GREAT! Who thinks it is a good idea for some senior to try to use a highly complex computer access system to access govt money- when they barely know how to turn the gizmo ON? Seniors are ALREADY prime target for scammers and hackers- and who wants to bet that there will be an explosion of fraud if seniors are encouraged to get on the net often with their banking and pension information? And there is ANOTHER REASON not to move to a small town- all govt service offices are in the big city- meaning you have to come back to the city to deal with them! AS seniors get more frail- small town life looks increasingly like a trap they cannot escape from without losing their shirts!)

(Seniors are also less than enthusiastic about selling their long time home and moving into cheaper rental accommodation as they are more likely to be exposed there to crime and violence, to bed bugs and cock roaches, to be badly in-convenienced when elevators fail and trap them without food or medication on the eight floor, to be stuck in the cold when heating systems or power fail for what may be weeks on end. In short, seniors figure they are better off to stay in their homes- the ones that fuzzy minded LIE-berals such as Mel Lastman WANT THEM OUT OF- for HIS convenience!)

She said housing costs are also an issue for people on a fixed income.

Daily Bread said its findings “reinforce the observation that the current system of income support is inadequate to deal with the labour market, economic realities and an aging population.”

(Hydro prices up 10- 20 percent per year, water rates up 5- 9 percent per year, food up 20 percent per year, property taxes up 2-3 percent per year- and with old age pension and supplements virtually FROZEN- and LIE-berals find it hard to understand why `stupid` seniors are having a difficult time!)

Two government initiatives — one provincial, one federal — may help alleviate the strain on low-income residents, Matern said.

Ontario’s basic income pilot project is being rolled out in several municipalities, including Hamilton and Thunder Bay, Ont., in an effort to reduce poverty. The federal government, meanwhile, is working on a national housing strategy meant to increase access to affordable homes.

(OH LIE-berals DO SO ENJOY making grand announcements that do not pan out- its just LIE-berals re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic! Its all bait and switch- money in one pocket and back out the other- a game LIE-berals long ago perfected!)

Matern said the food bank is asking Ottawa to ensure the strategy includes a portable housing benefit that would be given to tenants to help cover their rent.

(OH- a portable housing benefit? NO GOOD! That would mean NEW money for old folks- something LIE-berals will NOT offer as they will need ALL their gravy for Hog raises and for their new illegal friends flooding across our borders!)

“If that’s implemented, it would have a huge impact on helping to address the need,” he said.

The report is based on in-person surveys of more than 1,400 food bank clients and visit data from food banks across the city.
 

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Yes- and that saying goes perfectly with LIE-beral; policy!

Consider...

Consider that you are a Brampton cab driver of ME descent. You're not blending in...even with the newly arrived fatteh crowd. Jagmeet says shush. :smile:

Now, stop playing with your phone and go pick up a fare. You have taxes to pay!
 

spilledthebeer

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Consider that you are a Brampton cab driver of ME descent. You're not blending in...even with the newly arrived fatteh crowd. Jagmeet says shush. :smile:

Now, stop playing with your phone and go pick up a fare. You have taxes to pay!

Our country ALREADY has more taxi drivers, sandwich makers and chambermaids than it can use- we need logical, intelligent, skilled people- ones who will come here and be useful and NOT conspire to be a security risk!

LIE-beral policy is hugely costly, nationally divisive, creates major long term security risks, brings in useless mouths that we must support and whose only value is they will slavishly vote LIE-beral! None of this is good for us! Consider:

Here is an article illustrating the kind of messes we will be dealing with on a regular basis if we continue allowing LIE-beral style multi cultural choices to prevail! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Hindus protest Muslim prayers at public school. (See- NOBODY gets along with pushy Muslims!)

By QMI Agency. First posted: Monday, July 04, 2011 04:32 PM EDT
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TORONTO - Hindus from across Toronto plan to protest outside a North York middle school until a controversial Friday prayer session for 400 Muslim students is stopped.

The Canadian Hindu Advocacy is one of a number of Toronto-area groups who are opposed to the 30- to 40-minute services that occurred in the cafeteria of Valley Park Middle School on Overlea Blvd. from November to March.

An imam from a local mosque is brought to school to head the service, officials said. During the service male students are made to sit in front of the girls.

“This is alarming and unacceptable,” said Advocacy director Ron Banerjee. “We respect the separation of church and state.”

He said his group will be sending letters of protest to the Toronto District School Board in the next few days and calling for an end of the noon-time services. That will be followed by protests in November, when the services resume, if the prayers are to continue next school year.

“There’s not supposed to be any religious classes taking place in public schools,” Banerjee said. “We will be asking the board to stop the practice.”

He said school officials stopped students from reciting the Lord’s Prayers years ago and his group will picket the Muslim classes if the practice isn’t stopped.

“Our organization has received many complaints from Hindu students and parents in the Valley Park Middle School region,” Banerjee said.

He said his group would like to begin a discussion with TDSB authorities aimed at restoring secular education within the school system.

“We would also like to discuss the serving of halal meat within TDSB schools,” he said. “Our organization is determined to ensure all Hindu students are provided non-halal meat alternatives.”

(Halal meat is produced by following Islamic instructions in which the animal has its throat cut and is allowed to bleed to death. The animal is fully conscious at the time of the throat cutting and will take time to pass out from blood loss. This in sharp contrast to standard Cdn meat preparation in which an animal is electrocuted or clubbed on the head to produce instant death- or at least render the animal unconscious so it will not feel anything further. Clearly, Hindus are disturbed by the Halal method of producing meat.)

(Considering the cost to bring Muslim refugees here and then to train and educate them so they will have a chance to survive on their own in our society, along with the long term and very massive security risks that Muslims present, one has to wonder whether it is a good idea to import such numbers of such difficult people? How sad that Muslims cannot send their kids to school without causing hostility and debate over prayers in school and over their treatment of women. Now it seems that Muslims cannot even eat a meal without stirring controversy because they are throwing out most of our laws on animal welfare in the process?)

Area resident Khalid Sheikh, who claims to be president of Parents For School Not for Political Parties, said local school councils have been “hijacked and controlled” by Muslim groups and political parties.

(LIE-berals DO need to buy those ethnic voters and to hell with what ordinary Cdns think! LIE-berals no longer have ANY support in the Cdn private sector and must depend on special ethnic groups and on civil service Hogs for support- with the LIE-beral hold on Hogs being weakened as LIE-beral promises of more gravy go unfilled!)

“Neutral parents who do not like this political stuff in our schools are neglected,” Sheikh said. “For God’s sake, stop this nonsense in our schools.”

Area trustee Gerri Gershon said “there are many tensions within the community.

“The school should not be focused on these tensions and politics but have a wide representation of young people,” Gershon said.

(And this comment by Gershon is LIE-beral speak for: “shut up and go away since we don’t need or care for the opinions of people who don’t vote for us and we intend to do as we think is necessary for LIE-beral benefit”!)

She said the program began after discussions with parents, community leaders and the school administration.

Malcolm Buchanan, of Civil Rights in Public Education, said he has no problems with the Muslim prayer service as long as it doesn’t take place while classes are in session.

“Schools are for learning and not religious ideology,” said Buchanan. “We have no problems as long as it doesn’t take place during school time or the kids are not forced to take part.”

TDSB officials said on Monday the prayer sessions have been taking place for three years and are designed to help with the safety of students, who do not have to leave school to attend mosque.

The officials said the prayer sessions are working well and they haven’t been approached about making changes.

(Oh of course the prayer session are working nicely- after all the only people who are unhappy are those who don’t like LIE-berals to begin with! So what LIE-beral would acknowledge a complaint from such a person?)
 

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Consider that you are a Brampton cab driver of ME descent. You're not blending in...even with the newly arrived fatteh crowd. Jagmeet says shush. :icon_smile:

Now, stop playing with your phone and go pick up a fare. You have taxes to pay!
 

JLM

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Oh I am sorry- you are WRONG! Mulroney was the worst Conservative prime minster- but still WAY BEHIND the Trudopes! AND WAY BEHIND the LIE-beral/NDP alliances that were formed when LIE-berals got minority govt!

Statistics canada has told us that Cdn debt generally rises fastest when we have minority LIE-beral/NDP govt - which should be food for thought if Jag Singh gets hold of any real power! But if you get into Cdn RECORD DEBT you must look to the two Trudopes as being all time biggest spenders!


Knowledgeable, intelligent, sensible people have no need to submit posts 1/10 as long as your screeds!
 

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An imam from a local mosque is brought to school to head the service, officials said. During the service male students are made to sit in front of the girls.

“This is alarming and unacceptable,” said Advocacy director Ron Banerjee. “We respect the separation of church and state.”


The reason for this should have feminists up in arms, girls are inferior and must sit behind boys, menstruating women cannot participate in prayer only watch as they are impure.
Banerjee obviously also respects the seperation of 'men' and inferior women.
 

spilledthebeer

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The reason for this should have feminists up in arms, girls are inferior and must sit behind boys, menstruating women cannot participate in prayer only watch as they are impure.
Banerjee obviously also respects the seperation of 'men' and inferior women.

We have drifted a bit here from how much LIE-berals spend over to Muslim costs but not to worry- here is an article illustrating that Our idiot Boy and his vile father Pierre ARE THE RECORD HOLDERS for most idiot spending!

This article documents an ugly achievement- performed this spring 2017- by Our idiot Boy Justin, and there are some comments of my own in brackets):

Trudeau has second highest per-person spending since 1870.

(Oh my- this article is 6 months out of date! Our idiot Boy has now-as of Oct 2017- SURPASSED HIS vile father Pierre in stupid spending excess!)

POSTMEDIA NETWORK. First posted: Thursday, May 11, 2017 06:37 AM EDT | Updated: Thursday, May 11, 2017 06:46 AM EDT

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is leading one of the costliest governments since 1870, according to a study by the Fraser Institute released Thursday.

The study looks at per-person spending by all of the prime ministers, year over year, adjusted for 2017 dollars. According to its data, the Liberal prime minister's budget for 2017 amounts to the second highest year for spending, with a projected $8,337 per-person spending, putting it just $38 shy of Stephen Harper's 2009 Conservative government, which was dealing with a recession.

(And yet HYPOCRITE LIE-berals whine that Harper did not do enough to aid Cdns suffering from that recession! And LIE-berals do not want to discuss the HUGE pressure put on Harper by civil service Hogs to spend even more! The Hogs were outraged that Harper would seek to rein in govt spending at their expense by freezing their wages- but Hog greed and LIE-beral lust for power are not founded on logic!)

Since taking office in 2015, Trudeau has also increased per-person spending at an average of 5.2% a year, which is far higher than Harper's, whose spending, from 2006 to 2015, increased at an average of 1.3% per year. This even eclipses that of his late father, Pierre Elliott Trudeau, the Liberal prime minister from 1968-1978 and 1980-1984, whose average spending increase was 4.2% per year.

(In other words Our idiot Boy has accepted the challenge and is spending hard and fast to eclipse all others to become the most wasteful and extravagant prime minister in Cdn history!)

Here is some other data from the study:

John A. MacDonald's 1870 Liberal Conservative Party government had the lowest per-person spending at $100.50, while Harper's had the highest in 2009 at $8,375

Conservative/Unionist PM Sir Robert Borden (1911-1920) had the largest average annual increase in spending at 12.8%, which was largely influenced by the First World War

Conservative Party PM Arthur Meighen (1920-1921, 1926) had the largest average annual decrease in spending at 23.1%. (after WW 1 ended!)

(LIE-beral govts led Canada for a total of 70 years in 20th century so with Conservatives holding the record for being most frugal during those years when there was no war, it becomes clear that virtually all of our debt from that time period comes from free spending LIE-berals throwing gravy at their pals!)

Since the Second World War, Liberal PM Louis St. Laurent (1948-1957) had the largest average annual increase at 7%, partially due to spending on the Korean War, and the Progressive Conservatives' Joe Clark (1979) had the largest decrease at 4.8%

More recently, the PC's Brian Mulroney (1985-1993) and Liberal's Jean Chretien (1994-2003) each saw annual decreases of 0.3%, while per-person spending by Liberal PM Paul Martin (2004-2005) increased by 2.6%

(WE see a consistent pattern here of LIE-berals spending madly for years- until Cdns grow angry and dump them out in favour of Conservatives who must struggle to restore fiscal order. Whoever becomes the next premier of Ontari-owe in 2018 will inherit a massive collection of LIE-beral fiscal messes!)

(Firstly there is the LIE-beral fake balanced budget that relies mainly on the sale of Ontari-owe Hydro to balance the books for this one year- plus LIE-berals raiding and emptying all provincial emergency funds so in 2019 the budget will START with a 5 billion dollar hole that must be filled- and not including the series of raises in Hog pay provided by contracts recently signed by LIE-berals!)

(There will also be the tax hit from LIE-beral carbon crap and trade which apparently involves sending several billion dollars to Quebec to purchase carbon credits for Ontari-owe-thanks to Quebec having so much water powered electrical generation- and don’t ask how this carbon credit aides the environment- not even a LIE-beral can properly explain it without descending into incoherent nonsense! With the added bonus that California-which is partnered with Ontari-owe on this carbon crap- is planning regular and major increases in the cost of Carbon credits- with Ontari-owe and Quebec required to play and pay along or see the whole carbon credit scam disintegrate and expose the LIE-beral environmental sham!)

(There is also the matter of enormous sums of money promised by LIE-berals for civil service Hog pension plans! Its money LIE-berals promised in years past in exchange for critical Hog votes. Its money we did not have when the promises were made and its money we don’t have now either. Any attempt to produce such money will break our economy!)

(If Conservatives win the next election then look for HUGE labour unrest in Ontari-owe as spoiled Hogs demand that gravy be magically created for their pension plans which are rapidly approaching bankrupt status due to govt not being able to shovel in the cash fast enough to satisfy Hogs. Hogs will launch crippling strikes at every opportunity and at every excuse with the goal of preventing Conservatives from governing! With Hogs utterly indifferent to cost and consequences of their spiteful behaviour-even if it ruins us. On the other hand, if LIE-berals cling to power in the next election then look for all manner of fees and taxes to soar in cost as LIE-berals gut our economy in order to pay for their gross promises! With the added bonus that we will have to go through a similar economic war 2 years later when Our idiot Boy Justin leads his free spending, Muslim loving hordes into the next federal election!)
 

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We have drifted a bit here from how much LIE-berals spend over to Muslim costs but not to worry- here is an article illustrating that Our idiot Boy and his vile father Pierre ARE THE RECORD HOLDERS for most idiot spending!

This article documents an ugly achievement- performed this spring 2017- by Our idiot Boy Justin, and there are some comments of my own in brackets):

Trudeau has second highest per-person spending since 1870.

(Oh my- this article is 6 months out of date! Our idiot Boy has now-as of Oct 2017- SURPASSED HIS vile father Pierre in stupid spending excess!)

POSTMEDIA NETWORK. First posted: Thursday, May 11, 2017 06:37 AM EDT | Updated: Thursday, May 11, 2017 06:46 AM EDT

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is leading one of the costliest governments since 1870, according to a study by the Fraser Institute released Thursday.

The study looks at per-person spending by all of the prime ministers, year over year, adjusted for 2017 dollars. According to its data, the Liberal prime minister's budget for 2017 amounts to the second highest year for spending, with a projected $8,337 per-person spending, putting it just $38 shy of Stephen Harper's 2009 Conservative government, which was dealing with a recession.

(And yet HYPOCRITE LIE-berals whine that Harper did not do enough to aid Cdns suffering from that recession! And LIE-berals do not want to discuss the HUGE pressure put on Harper by civil service Hogs to spend even more! The Hogs were outraged that Harper would seek to rein in govt spending at their expense by freezing their wages- but Hog greed and LIE-beral lust for power are not founded on logic!)

Since taking office in 2015, Trudeau has also increased per-person spending at an average of 5.2% a year, which is far higher than Harper's, whose spending, from 2006 to 2015, increased at an average of 1.3% per year. This even eclipses that of his late father, Pierre Elliott Trudeau, the Liberal prime minister from 1968-1978 and 1980-1984, whose average spending increase was 4.2% per year.

(In other words Our idiot Boy has accepted the challenge and is spending hard and fast to eclipse all others to become the most wasteful and extravagant prime minister in Cdn history!)

Here is some other data from the study:

John A. MacDonald's 1870 Liberal Conservative Party government had the lowest per-person spending at $100.50, while Harper's had the highest in 2009 at $8,375

Conservative/Unionist PM Sir Robert Borden (1911-1920) had the largest average annual increase in spending at 12.8%, which was largely influenced by the First World War

Conservative Party PM Arthur Meighen (1920-1921, 1926) had the largest average annual decrease in spending at 23.1%. (after WW 1 ended!)

(LIE-beral govts led Canada for a total of 70 years in 20th century so with Conservatives holding the record for being most frugal during those years when there was no war, it becomes clear that virtually all of our debt from that time period comes from free spending LIE-berals throwing gravy at their pals!)

Since the Second World War, Liberal PM Louis St. Laurent (1948-1957) had the largest average annual increase at 7%, partially due to spending on the Korean War, and the Progressive Conservatives' Joe Clark (1979) had the largest decrease at 4.8%

More recently, the PC's Brian Mulroney (1985-1993) and Liberal's Jean Chretien (1994-2003) each saw annual decreases of 0.3%, while per-person spending by Liberal PM Paul Martin (2004-2005) increased by 2.6%

(WE see a consistent pattern here of LIE-berals spending madly for years- until Cdns grow angry and dump them out in favour of Conservatives who must struggle to restore fiscal order. Whoever becomes the next premier of Ontari-owe in 2018 will inherit a massive collection of LIE-beral fiscal messes!)

(Firstly there is the LIE-beral fake balanced budget that relies mainly on the sale of Ontari-owe Hydro to balance the books for this one year- plus LIE-berals raiding and emptying all provincial emergency funds so in 2019 the budget will START with a 5 billion dollar hole that must be filled- and not including the series of raises in Hog pay provided by contracts recently signed by LIE-berals!)

(There will also be the tax hit from LIE-beral carbon crap and trade which apparently involves sending several billion dollars to Quebec to purchase carbon credits for Ontari-owe-thanks to Quebec having so much water powered electrical generation- and don’t ask how this carbon credit aides the environment- not even a LIE-beral can properly explain it without descending into incoherent nonsense! With the added bonus that California-which is partnered with Ontari-owe on this carbon crap- is planning regular and major increases in the cost of Carbon credits- with Ontari-owe and Quebec required to play and pay along or see the whole carbon credit scam disintegrate and expose the LIE-beral environmental sham!)

(There is also the matter of enormous sums of money promised by LIE-berals for civil service Hog pension plans! Its money LIE-berals promised in years past in exchange for critical Hog votes. Its money we did not have when the promises were made and its money we don’t have now either. Any attempt to produce such money will break our economy!)

(If Conservatives win the next election then look for HUGE labour unrest in Ontari-owe as spoiled Hogs demand that gravy be magically created for their pension plans which are rapidly approaching bankrupt status due to govt not being able to shovel in the cash fast enough to satisfy Hogs. Hogs will launch crippling strikes at every opportunity and at every excuse with the goal of preventing Conservatives from governing! With Hogs utterly indifferent to cost and consequences of their spiteful behaviour-even if it ruins us. On the other hand, if LIE-berals cling to power in the next election then look for all manner of fees and taxes to soar in cost as LIE-berals gut our economy in order to pay for their gross promises! With the added bonus that we will have to go through a similar economic war 2 years later when Our idiot Boy Justin leads his free spending, Muslim loving hordes into the next federal election!)


And now for something completely different:

Here is an article illustrating the mad hypocrisy of LIE-beral relations with the native population. With NDP doorknob Jagmeet Singh wisely staying clear of the crap- SO FAR! Sadly-if he doe ever get the power he craves- his few comments so far suggest he will be WORSE than LIE-berals! See my own comments in brackets):

First Nations cigarette maker suing the feds for billions.

By Mark Bonokoski, Postmedia Network. First posted: Saturday, July 15, 2017 06:11 PM EDT | Updated: Saturday, July 15, 2017 06:18 PM EDT

In an ironic twist, the biggest manufacturer of Native cigarettes in Canada is suing the federal government for $3 billion for failing to stop the proliferation of contraband tobacco producers.

The lawsuit, filed in the Ontario Court of Appeal at the end of June by Grand River Enterprises’ Jerry Montour and three other principals in the company, accuses the Attorney General of Canada of “malfeasance in public office, negligence, breach of fiduciary duty, and breach of aboriginal rights.”

The foursome, all status Indians, is seeking $1.5 billion in damages for revenues allegedly lost to the approximately 50 unlicensed and therefore illegal cigarette manufacturers in the province competing with their brands, and another $1.5 billion for the government’s failure to close them down.

The feds, in turn, have yet to file a statement of defence.

The irony, of course, is that GRE manufactures millions of cigarettes a day at its processing plants on the Six Nations reserve near Brantford, cigarettes that show up at smoke shacks on reserves across the province, and are then sold illegally to non-aboriginals for almost two-thirds less than smokes sold legally at convenience stores.

A tax-free baggie of 200 loose cigarettes, in fact, can cost as little as $8 at a reserve smoke shack.

The resulting loss in tax revenues from the illegal sale of contraband tobacco to both the Canada Revenue Agency and the province of Ontario represents almost a billion dollars annually.

(Natives of course were the first to discover Tobacco and to smoke it in a pipe on ceremonial occasions. They introduced the weed to Europeans who adapted the stuff for their convenience- creating the cigar and later the cigarette businesses. When native bands began signing their treaties with white govt, they were granted the ongoing right to grow and use Tobacco as part of their cultural heritage. But of course cigarettes and cigars and `sin taxes` on these products are a part of modern life in white society. It is only in recent years-as the sin taxes got ever higher- that natives began bending their cultural heritage to include selling cigarettes to white people while avoiding the sin taxes that make cigarettes so costly in local stores. Natives who defend their right to sell cigarettes without collecting or paying sin taxes are not engaged in any traditional practice- they are simply money grubbing tax cheats.)

The lawsuit is based on two theories of liability – the “forced incorporation” of GRE, and the “failure” of the federal government to “enforce” its agreement to come down hard on First Nation cigarette manufacturers churning out products without a licence.

It was a raid by the RCMP on GRE back in the mid-1990s that resulted in GRE reluctantly agreeing to pay federal excise taxes to avoid being shut down, with the feds then promising to “intensify enforcement against contraband to level the playing field between GRE and other on-reserve tobacco manufacturers.”

GRE argues in the court document that the federal government, namely through the Attorney General’s office, has “failed to implement or administer what has been cited as the 1994 Anti-Smuggling Initiative and, as a result of not enforcing laws against the production of contraband cigarettes by other First Nation profiteers, it has caused Montour and company to “incur substantial losses.”

(I day its hard to argue against the GRE position- if one company has to pay then ALL should be made to pay. And since ALL cigarettes that are sold by natives in Ontari-owe are NOT a part of native tradition since it is white people who invented the product then it is fair that all natives MUST be made to pay the sin taxes on the product they are selling.)

A recent study by the National Coalition Against Contraband Tobacco shows a full third of cigarettes in Ontario are purchased illegally, with Northern Ontario breaching 60%.

It’s all price point. A carton of 200 professionally-packaged contraband cigarettes, which can be pumped out at a rate of 10,000 cigarettes a minute, can be purchased on a reserve — no questions asked — for as little as $30 while an all-taxes-in carton of legal cigarettes costs upwards of $115 at a typical convenience store.

(Native hypocrites want to have it both ways- they want to make a nice profit-cheating the govt of taxes while selling a highly addictive health hazard while avoiding any need to pay taxes that would cover some of the health care costs their product generates.)

This is not to say, however, that Jerry Montour, or his co-plaintiffs Kenny Hill, Curtis Styres and Gregory Scott Smith, are new to the court system. Far from it.

GRE and its distributors have faced litigation for non-payment of taxes by dozens of attorney generals in the United States, which is the primary destination of the GRE cigarette brands that their licence permits them to produce.

GRE’s consistent argument is that their status as a First Nation company should make them exempt from paying state taxes. The consistent result, however, has been GRE losing its court battles, and having to pay a hefty fine.

In Arkansas, for example, a recent fine was $20 million. That’s a lot of money to be smoked out.

(I say the tax exempt status granted to native a hundred years ago is part of a larger problem- that treaty writers and signers never saw coming. It was always expected that natives would continue living in relative isolation away from white people. Law maker of a hundred years back simply could not envision modern long haul trucking industry nor could the conceive of air freight! Thus the tax exempt status was NEVER expected to be used in the larger white society as native cigarette makers are doing. LIE-beral failure to deal with tax cheats has made this mess. But what else can we expect from wretched LIE-berals who are so craven in the face of anger and defiance?

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