Cost of gun violence: hospital charges for 100,000 shot annually reach $2.8bn

Colpy

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Americans overall are 25 times more likely to be murdered with a gun than people in other developed countries.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/02/us-gun-control-ownership-violence-statistics

Once again, proving you are an idiot.

The United States has a murder rate significantly less than the world average. There are 103 nations in the world with worse murder rates.

Obviously the presence of hundreds of millions of guns, by far the most per capita of any nation on earth, is not driving murder rates up much, if at all.

The "gun murder" stat is only used by progressive idiots with an anti-liberty agenda.

Unless of course you think the murdered are somehow more dead if shot than if stabbed to death, bludgeoned to death, burned to death, beaten to death etc etc etc.
 

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Once again, proving you are an idiot.

The United States has a murder rate significantly less than the world average. There are 103 nations in the world with worse murder rates.
Yeah, but they're all nig. . . um. . . less developed countries.

Not that I'm racist or nothing.

Obviously the presence of hundreds of millions of guns, by far the most per capita of any nation on earth, is not driving murder rates up much, if at all.
A bit, but not significant. If you deduct all the "mass" shooting deaths this year from the overall gun death stats, the difference will be less than 1%.

The "gun murder" stat is only used by progressive idiots with an anti-liberty agenda.

Unless of course you think the murdered are somehow more dead if shot than if stabbed to death, bludgeoned to death, burned to death, beaten to death etc etc etc.
Run over to death.
 

MHz

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You can spot a 2 part sentence from a mile away?

You two dipshits need to take ESL classes.

The first part is irrelevant. The Right to a militia is part 1 and a given in any democracy. We call our militia the RCMP.

The comma is the obvious give away.

Part 2 of the two part sentence cleary states:

the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


EVER
Where is there a demand that every shot count as stray bullets are the ones that are dangerous to the general public.

This cracked me up. :)

Dead on.
The US thinks all countries are less developed than they are you not so smart person you .. gger..
 

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Once again, proving you are an idiot.

The United States has a murder rate significantly less than the world average. There are 103 nations in the world with worse murder rates.

Obviously the presence of hundreds of millions of guns, by far the most per capita of any nation on earth, is not driving murder rates up much, if at all.

The "gun murder" stat is only used by progressive idiots with an anti-liberty agenda.

Unless of course you think the murdered are somehow more dead if shot than if stabbed to death, bludgeoned to death, burned to death, beaten to death etc etc etc.


You're the definition of blow hard.

No wonder nobody listens to you.


Anyhoo, back to changing that constitution...

"What happened in Las Vegas is in many ways a miracle. The police department has done such an incredible job, and we'll be talking about gun laws as time goes by," Trump told reporters.

Trump: 'What happened in Las Vegas is in many ways a miracle' | TheHill
 

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Define "developed country." Try to do it in a non-racist kinda way.

That's like trying to describe a hole without describing the surroundings.

You're the definition of blow hard.

No wonder nobody listens to you.


Anyhoo, back to changing that constitution...

"What happened in Las Vegas is in many ways a miracle. The police department has done such an incredible job, and we'll be talking about gun laws as time goes by," Trump told reporters.

Trump: 'What happened in Las Vegas is in many ways a miracle' | TheHill

Adult English as a Second Language
 

Colpy

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You're the definition of blow hard.

No wonder nobody listens to you.


Anyhoo, back to changing that constitution...

"What happened in Las Vegas is in many ways a miracle. The police department has done such an incredible job, and we'll be talking about gun laws as time goes by," Trump told reporters.

Trump: 'What happened in Las Vegas is in many ways a miracle' | TheHill

You are absolutely incapable of dealing with me, aren't you? Smiling.

You make my whole day.

My advice?

Grow a brain, get an education, try again.
 

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You mean that the Second Amendment DOESN'T mean a loaded Glock under every pillow?
White, American males committing a terrorist attack is much more frequent and takes more lives than any coming from a Muslim immigrant and generally has become the manner in which many American males are solving life[s problems.

Virtual unlimited access to almost any kind of weapon, makes for a very violent nation. It is unique. Human life has become much less valuable.
 

Colpy

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White, American males committing a terrorist attack is much more frequent and takes more lives than any coming from a Muslim immigrant and generally has become the manner in which many American males are solving life[s problems.

Virtual unlimited access to almost any kind of weapon, makes for a very violent nation. It is unique. Human life has become much less valuable.

So, exactly when in the last 100 years did any "White, American males" murder almost 3,000 Americans in one fell swoop?

Oh, and perhaps you could explain to me how "Virtual unlimited access to almost any kind of weapon" makes the USA " a very violent nation", considering it has a murder rate much less than the world average, and is at the midpoint of rates among the world's nations.

God, you and Mentalfloss may have a cumulative IQ that hits three figures, but I sincerely doubt it.
 

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Virtual unlimited access to almost any kind of weapon, makes for a very violent nation. It is unique. Human life has become much less valuable.
Give everybody a weapon and the random incidents actually go down. Unless everybody is drunk, then not so much.
 

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A trip to Africa would open their eyes to what violence really looks like.

Certainly you are right nevertheless if one wants to examine violence on the African scale I would hold off booking flights for a year or so when much closer seats will no doubt become plentiful right here in the good democratic world. Save your money.
 

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Give everybody a weapon and the random incidents actually go down. Unless everybody is drunk, then not so much.



That's so ridiculously untrue that it would be laughable, except that you're serious.


Incidents go down eventually, when enough people are dead.
 

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So, exactly when in the last 100 years did any "White, American males" murder almost 3,000 Americans in one fell swoop?

Oh, and perhaps you could explain to me how "Virtual unlimited access to almost any kind of weapon" makes the USA " a very violent nation", considering it has a murder rate much less than the world average, and is at the midpoint of rates among the world's nations.

God, you and Mentalfloss may have a cumulative IQ that hits three figures, but I sincerely doubt it.
Separately every year as a rule. Remember what the average deaths by gun in the US per year is over 11,000 As far as I can recall there has not been a war on United States soil in some time. We are not talking about wars here. We are talking every day life on home soil. You know civilians simply killing other civilians during peacetime.

If you are talking about the bombing of the trade center, that was NOT an immigrant but a highjacking by a foreign power and you and I both know that was not a Muslim immigrant/ If we are talking civilized countries who are not at war with themselves or at war with their neighbors do to that midway point on the world stat figure?
 
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MHz

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That's so ridiculously untrue that it would be laughable, except that you're serious.


Incidents go down eventually, when enough people are dead.
Is violent crime lower in states with open carry? | PolitiFact Florida
Florida is one of only a handful of states left in the country that doesn’t allow any open carry of firearms, and some state legislators want to change that.
State Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fort Walton Beach, is sponsoring a bill that would allow those with a conceal carry license to openly carry their firearms. On Oct. 6, 2015, a House panel voted in favor of the bill, which will now advance to other committees in anticipation of a January legislative session.
In a press conference before the hearing, Gaetz tried to allay fears that public safety would suffer by comparing crime rates in states without open carry with those that allow it.
"It is important to note that in the states that allow open carry, violent crime was 23 percent lower, the murder rate was 5 percent lower, the aggravated assault rate was 23 percent lower and robbery rates were 36 percent lower."
We decided to fact-check his claim that violent crime was 23 percent lower in open carry states. The statistic suggests that open carry laws make states safer, or at the very least don’t make them more dangerous. But the reality is much more complex, according to experts and research.
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I can understand why you didn't provide a link.