Son of Hamas Leader Shreds anti- Israel Narrative.
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It was already signed before this. He'd already converted to Christianity and became a Shin Bet spy.
lol, what a speech. The world can't see the truth but one paid shrill does. Swallow it all up tards. Change the look and it might as well be a speech by the new and improved Trumpster.
Bad enough the Jews have organized hate groups in the US (ACT for America) now a (former Hamas member) has the Jewish collective eating out of his hands while a truthful Jew is not.
[youtube]TOaxAckFCuQ[/youtube]
Miko Peled Seattle. Oct. 1, 2012
The true history of the place since 1948 starts at the 6:00 mark.
This thread is going to be so much fun because all the liars will be instantly hooked. That is why the Jewish collective is so fuking stupid.
On part the collective is missing is the son of the Hamas leader is bashing the Palestinian Authority as being corrosive to the Palestinian cause. It quite common knowledge (except here) that the PA became a Israeli asset quite a few years ago. He is not condemning the Palestinian people (or Hamas) for anything that has happened since Nov./1947
The OP should have included this as it would have saved the creeps here from betting boners.
"Shocked U.N. Delegates as PLO Abuses Exposed by Palestinian Hero"
BTW he is an Israeli collaborator so anything he promotes should be viewed as being tainted. His voice alone will carry more weigh that the views on millions of experts in human right abuses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassan_Yousef
Mosab Hassan Yousef (Arabic: مصعب حسن يوسف; born May 5, 1978)[3] is a Palestinian who worked undercover for Israel's internal security service Shin Bet from 1997 to 2007.
Shin Bet considered him its most valuable source within the Hamas leadership: the information Yousef supplied prevented dozens of suicide attacks and assassinations of Israelis, exposed numerous Hamas cells,[1] and assisted Israel in hunting down many militants, including the incarceration of his own father, a Hamas leader Sheikh Hassan Yousef.[4] In March 2010, he published his autobiography titled Son of Hamas.[5]
In 1999, Yousef converted to Christianity, and in 2007 moved to the United States.[2] His request for political asylum in the United States was granted pending a routine background check on June 30, 2010.[6]
Bad enough the Jews have organized hate groups in the US (ACT for America) now a (former Hamas member) has the Jewish collective eating out of his hands while a truthful Jew is not.
[youtube]TOaxAckFCuQ[/youtube]
Miko Peled Seattle. Oct. 1, 2012
The true history of the place since 1948 starts at the 6:00 mark.
Perhaps you are unaware that Shin Bet is the Jewish arm that cures Christians of the 'disease' called the Jerusalem Syndrome.
This thread is going to be so much fun because all the liars will be instantly hooked. That is why the Jewish collective is so fuking stupid.
On part the collective is missing is the son of the Hamas leader is bashing the Palestinian Authority as being corrosive to the Palestinian cause. It quite common knowledge (except here) that the PA became a Israeli asset quite a few years ago. He is not condemning the Palestinian people (or Hamas) for anything that has happened since Nov./1947
The OP should have included this as it would have saved the creeps here from betting boners.
"Shocked U.N. Delegates as PLO Abuses Exposed by Palestinian Hero"
BTW he is an Israeli collaborator so anything he promotes should be viewed as being tainted. His voice alone will carry more weigh that the views on millions of experts in human right abuses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassan_Yousef
Mosab Hassan Yousef (Arabic: مصعب حسن يوسف; born May 5, 1978)[3] is a Palestinian who worked undercover for Israel's internal security service Shin Bet from 1997 to 2007.
Shin Bet considered him its most valuable source within the Hamas leadership: the information Yousef supplied prevented dozens of suicide attacks and assassinations of Israelis, exposed numerous Hamas cells,[1] and assisted Israel in hunting down many militants, including the incarceration of his own father, a Hamas leader Sheikh Hassan Yousef.[4] In March 2010, he published his autobiography titled Son of Hamas.[5]
In 1999, Yousef converted to Christianity, and in 2007 moved to the United States.[2] His request for political asylum in the United States was granted pending a routine background check on June 30, 2010.[6]
Yeah, I'm fully aware of who Yousef is. He was also a member of Hamas. Suck it up bitch. Your lies have been exposed.
By the way, who DID give the PA the authority to rule? I don't recall any free elections in Palestine.
By the way, who DID give the PA the authority to rule? I don't recall any free elections in Palestine.
How many have you followed. Hamas got voted in about 1987, due mainly to the 20 year Martial Law they were under and Yasir got poisoned by his wife who is now living in luxury in France. I wonder if she would be fried as an Israeli asset should she find herself walking alone on a street in Gaza.
Why do you promote that the PLO was corrupt when they first became a political party? When they started putting the people they represent under the Israeli bus is when Israel had them in their pocket.
https://syrianperspective.com/2015/...aitors-damascus-front-upbeat-assessments.html
No leader is as jaded as Mahmoud ‘Abbaas. He clings to his post even thoughhe knows his tenure has been marked by absolutely no achievements a wet-behind-the-ear pageboy couldn’t accomplish. He has watched impuissantly as the Zionist neo-Nazi empire has scarfed down every morsel of the big, aerated cake he’s been parading in front of the Palestinians whose own failures, as a society, have been only matched in history by the aborigines of Australia. But, then, there is failure – the inability to attain a particular goal – and there is subversion or sabotage – the intentional imposition of failure upon an enemy, or, as in this case, your own people. Nobody can deny ‘Abbaas’ treachery. It is now for all to see. It’s all over the news, the networks and the Internet. And it’s no surprise to anyone. Because this is the essence of this virulent strain of traitor and his minions in the notional world of Palestinian self-governance.
Yesterday, sensible Palestinians working for the PLO announced their willingness to work with the Syrian Army to rid the Yarmouk Camp of the pestilence of ISIS. And it’s not just ISIS, it’s also Alqaeda/Nusra which allowed ISIS to enter the camp in the first place. That Palestinian was Ahmad Majdalaani, who was sent to Damascus ostensibly to give the Syrian government the permission it needed to invade the camp and expel the plague-carrying rats. Almost immediately after Majdalaani told reporters he was on board and, therefore, so was the PLO, the Palestinian rodents in Ramallah issued a communique dispelling any talk of cooperation with the Syrian government in liberating the camp.
The reasons for the PLO’s contrariety and countermanding were given as follows: the Palestinians will not involve themselves in the conflict in Syria and will remain neutral.
This incredible proof of the sectarian nature of the PLO’s leadership is now a matter of record. The treason is open and notorious. The PLO will not involve itself in a fight against the savages of ISIS or Alqaeda even if it means bringing relief to the besieged and oppressed Palestinian people in the Yarmouk Camp. Let the PLO know this: The Palestinian people are not so stupid they can’t smell a rat. And this may be the end of this rat named Mahmoud ‘Abbaas because the real reason he is betraying the Palestinians is his working with those who help ISIS and Alqaeda AND those parties are the Zionist Abomination, the Pygmy Kingdom of Jordan, the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist state of Turkey and the usual gang of idiots in NATO. This is treason at its highest. ‘Abbaas must be arrested and executed immediately.
14 Palestinian factions, some linked to the traitorous PLO, have agreed to join forces with the Syrian Army to eradicate the toxicity of ISIS from the camp. The PFLP-GC is leading the charge along with other, less well-known groups, such as the “Committees” and Al-Saa’iqa. Expect the PLA also to be involved even if the traitor, ‘Abbaas, tries to countermand orders. The PLA is heavily influenced by the SAA and Syrian security services. The sole issue now for Syrian jurists is whether agreements to recognize the PLO’s supremacy in matters concerning Palestinian citizens and camps will prohibit any such action by Syria to exterminate the ISIS jackals.
It appears being a traitor to your people and your country runs in the family. How very western of them, yes?? Hamas was corrupted before the PLO, the West Bank Hamas rather that Hamas in Gaza.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Yousef
aka Israeli stooge and loving it. You probably think Prescott Bush is a hero also even though he helped finance the Nazi war machine. You know the one that supposedly killed 6M Jews. The only thing missing is the 6M bodies to go along with the fantasy.
Watch the vid, it is faster and more factual.
The whole collective here is chronic liars, and proud of it. Probably the biggest clue is no politicians or bankers have ever been hanged for their many crimes. Perhaps the collective in unaware that there are crimes that have not been exposed, that is why a few Muslims are the whipping boy for this insane collective.
[youtube]TOaxAckFCuQ&t=2s[/youtube]
Why not put your feeble mind to work and dispute every point he makes starting at the 6 minute mark. Individually or as a group, whichever results in something that is not a troll post. (highly unlikely considering the quality of character of the collective)
Notice they need to be a collective to get anything done, lol The collective here is exactly the same.
[youtube]5jG6kJm-50k[/youtube]
How the Jews Treat Christians in Israel - It's Serious!
Kind of puts a big fuking hole in Shin Bet allowing a christian to be their inside man when daddy was part of the spy network.
Even the review is based on lies.
'https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/12/movies/the-green-prince-about-a-hamas-son-recruited-by-israel.html
But because his father, Hassan Yousef, was a founder of Hamas, he was a prize catch for the Israeli agency, which manipulated him with diabolical efficiency to glean vital intelligence. In turn, he was protected from exposure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Yousef
While in jail in 2005, Yousef was nominated to represent Hamas during the elections. This was against his will, as he did not think that Hamas could become a political party. He was initially unwilling, but the Hamas leaders did not accept his refusal. Yousef eventually agreed, when he found out that his eldest son had received death threats.[5]
Hey Coldpie, why not answer the question instead of doing the red thing. It only impresses the collective. To me it shows you are just another fuking liar who can't own up to the truth when pressed.
The West Bank was conquered long ago, Gaza is a different story all together. For one, they kill traitors.
The spin is the people in the West Bank are told that, in reality the money is pocked by crooked Israelis and crooked politicians from Hamas and the PA in the West Bank.
Social divide widens between West Bank, Gaza Strip
Palestinians in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip live in two different, geographically separated areas. Moreover, since mid-2007 the political breakup has widened the geographical gulf and caused the two parts to drift further apart, and have even become governed by different rules and regulations.
Israel separates the Gaza Strip from the West Bank and does not allow the movement of people between the two sides. It only allows the movement in one direction, which is from the Gaza Strip to the West Bank, and under certain humanitarian conditions. This includes the cases of Palestinian patients from Gaza receiving treatment in Palestinian hospitals in Jerusalem and other cities in the West Bank. Meanwhile, the number of traders who are allowed to enter the West Bank depends on the political developments. For instance, the second intifada led to a dip in the numbers of traders allowed access to the West Bank. Israel also allows access to some Palestinians working with international organizations.
According to a restaurant manager in Ramallah, Issa Sarhan, the Palestinian Authority (PA) spends most of its budget on the Gaza Strip, especially following the latest war. Meanwhile, millions of Palestinians in the West Bank are not benefiting from the budget.
“Gaza is enjoying billions of dollars donated by countries. The PA is spending the money there, where Hamas is ruling. Meanwhile, the Palestinians in the West Bank suffer from unemployment, limited development and growth because of the Gaza Strip,” Sarhan told Al-Monitor.
“This is injustice. Gaza has been receiving in-kind and physical donations, while the West Bank is suffering, the PA is turning a blind eye and Hamas refuses to hand over power,” he added.
Mohammed Rimawi, who works with a nongovernmental organization, believes that Hamas and its security apparatuses are keeping a strong grip on the people of the Gaza Strip, intervening in their personal affairs and not allowing them to roam the streets at night.
“I do not think that Hamas allows people to walk in the streets at night without being stopped and asked for their IDs. Hamas is keeping a firm security grip on the situation,” he told Al-Monitor.
Watch the vid, it is faster and more factual.
The whole collective here is chronic liars, and proud of it. Probably the biggest clue is no politicians or bankers have ever been hanged for their many crimes. Perhaps the collective in unaware that there are crimes that have not been exposed, that is why a few Muslims are the whipping boy for this insane collective.
[youtube]TOaxAckFCuQ&t=2s[/youtube]
Why not put your feeble mind to work and dispute every point he makes starting at the 6 minute mark. Individually or as a group, whichever results in something that is not a troll post. (highly unlikely considering the quality of character of the collective)
Notice they need to be a collective to get anything done, lol The collective here is exactly the same.
[youtube]5jG6kJm-50k[/youtube]
How the Jews Treat Christians in Israel - It's Serious!
Kind of puts a big fuking hole in Shin Bet allowing a christian to be their inside man when daddy was part of the spy network.
What pages did you find the most interesting.
Even the review is based on lies.
'https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/12/movies/the-green-prince-about-a-hamas-son-recruited-by-israel.html
But because his father, Hassan Yousef, was a founder of Hamas, he was a prize catch for the Israeli agency, which manipulated him with diabolical efficiency to glean vital intelligence. In turn, he was protected from exposure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan_Yousef
While in jail in 2005, Yousef was nominated to represent Hamas during the elections. This was against his will, as he did not think that Hamas could become a political party. He was initially unwilling, but the Hamas leaders did not accept his refusal. Yousef eventually agreed, when he found out that his eldest son had received death threats.[5]
Hey Coldpie, why not answer the question instead of doing the red thing. It only impresses the collective. To me it shows you are just another fuking liar who can't own up to the truth when pressed.
You mean his daddy was a member of Hamas. That daddy didn't end up in a ditch somewhere shows all of Hamas was as corrupt as the traitor kid.
The West Bank was conquered long ago, Gaza is a different story all together. For one, they kill traitors.
The spin is the people in the West Bank are told that, in reality the money is pocked by crooked Israelis and crooked politicians from Hamas and the PA in the West Bank.
Social divide widens between West Bank, Gaza Strip
Palestinians in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip live in two different, geographically separated areas. Moreover, since mid-2007 the political breakup has widened the geographical gulf and caused the two parts to drift further apart, and have even become governed by different rules and regulations.
Israel separates the Gaza Strip from the West Bank and does not allow the movement of people between the two sides. It only allows the movement in one direction, which is from the Gaza Strip to the West Bank, and under certain humanitarian conditions. This includes the cases of Palestinian patients from Gaza receiving treatment in Palestinian hospitals in Jerusalem and other cities in the West Bank. Meanwhile, the number of traders who are allowed to enter the West Bank depends on the political developments. For instance, the second intifada led to a dip in the numbers of traders allowed access to the West Bank. Israel also allows access to some Palestinians working with international organizations.
According to a restaurant manager in Ramallah, Issa Sarhan, the Palestinian Authority (PA) spends most of its budget on the Gaza Strip, especially following the latest war. Meanwhile, millions of Palestinians in the West Bank are not benefiting from the budget.
“Gaza is enjoying billions of dollars donated by countries. The PA is spending the money there, where Hamas is ruling. Meanwhile, the Palestinians in the West Bank suffer from unemployment, limited development and growth because of the Gaza Strip,” Sarhan told Al-Monitor.
“This is injustice. Gaza has been receiving in-kind and physical donations, while the West Bank is suffering, the PA is turning a blind eye and Hamas refuses to hand over power,” he added.
Mohammed Rimawi, who works with a nongovernmental organization, believes that Hamas and its security apparatuses are keeping a strong grip on the people of the Gaza Strip, intervening in their personal affairs and not allowing them to roam the streets at night.
“I do not think that Hamas allows people to walk in the streets at night without being stopped and asked for their IDs. Hamas is keeping a firm security grip on the situation,” he told Al-Monitor.
Your hate is strong and unfocused.
If you wish to engage in thoughtful discussion, say more but speak less. You wish to sound knowledgeable, but you lost the few people that would even respond because of your long, rambling posts. You and spilledthebeer have much in common.
Pick one topic. State your POV. Substantiate it. Wait for rebuttal.
And this is a gookie.
If you wish to engage in thoughtful discussion, say more but speak less. You wish to sound knowledgeable, but you lost the few people that would even respond because of your long, rambling posts. You and spilledthebeer have much in common.
Pick one topic. State your POV. Substantiate it. Wait for rebuttal.
And this is a gookie.
Why do you consider it hate when all I'm doing is pointing out the creep was a rat and a traitor to his people. Perhaps you should see how rich he got from such activities.
I totally understand that the Jewish collective sees being a traitor to your own people is actually a great way to male money. Just ask George Soros.
Holy fuk, a regular business selling out you neighbors. Should I do a bit on the ones that are now very, very rich? (most likely all 8 pages would show the same)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_Nazi_collaborators
The following 8 pages are in this category, out of 8 total. This list may not reflect recent changes
You like traitors. Let's hope when you practice the craft you get the proper thank you.
I totally understand that the Jewish collective sees being a traitor to your own people is actually a great way to male money. Just ask George Soros.
Holy fuk, a regular business selling out you neighbors. Should I do a bit on the ones that are now very, very rich? (most likely all 8 pages would show the same)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_Nazi_collaborators
The following 8 pages are in this category, out of 8 total. This list may not reflect recent changes
You like traitors. Let's hope when you practice the craft you get the proper thank you.
The guy making the speech happens to be right. The PA and Hamas are getting lots of money and it's all going down a rathole. The leaders should be improving their peoples' lives, not buying concrete for terror tunnels to kill people.
Who is the "Jewish collective"? Do you realize that Jews actually accomplish things and the haters do not?
Hamas and Abbas are the traitors.You like traitors. Let's hope when you practice the craft you get the proper thank you.
The trolls around here that can only slam all groups except the Jews. They aren't hard to spot.
When you vote for yourself as being the smartest that isn't really a valid reference.
I agree that they are heavily involved in all aspect of society. Name one that isn't in the toilet as far as getting things right or working smooth that they are not a burden on the people it covers.
Pick where you want to start, banking?? Got a thread on that already so perhaps that is where this post should go as there are going to be many vids and links to show that my research is solid and that is why the local Jewish collective has to resort to childish bullshit instead of acting like adults with a brain that is capable of more that 'follow the leader'.
Global warming is crap science so if it isn't promoted by Jewish scientist why are they nor exposing it as crap science.
This part is posted in the Rothschild thread so perhaps you reply should be there and we can get down to business.
You education starts here.
Where Did All the Billions of Dollars Given to the Palestinian Authority Go?
Palestinian Authority (PA) Prime Minister Salam Fayyad says that his regime is short of funds. And meanwhile a reader asks me:
“Can you please explain to me why 20 years after Oslo and billions in dollars in foreign aid, the Palestinian Authority (PA) still has not built modern hospitals? Or rather, why do the donor countries pour money down the PA drain without expecting even some face-saving results?”
Good question. Short answer: Swiss bank accounts. In other words, a huge amount of the money has been stolen. There is nothing more distasteful than rulers of a people–especially a poor people–who complain about their subjects’ suffering at the same time that they profit from it. Of course, when some foreign observer sees Palestinians in poor conditions they blame Israel, thus furthering the cause of the same leaders who, -by their intransigent policies, ensure that the situation continues.
The personal wealth of PA “president” Mahmoud Abbas is estimated at $100 million. Add onto that millions of dollars for a large number of PA and Fatah senior officials and you get the idea.
I have seen the villas of the PLO leaders in Tunis and the PA leaders in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. I have followed in detail the saga not only of Yasir Arafat’s personal stash but also how he used corruption to sustain his political control. And his heirs mostly continue to run the Palestinian movement.
It is easy to forget that the PA has existed for 18 years and governed virtually every Palestinian there starting about 16 years ago. That’s a long time. And while Israel can be accused of harassment and putting up various roadblocks, its part in this problem has been limited. Indeed, Israeli action that have hurt the PA’s economy have arisen in direct response to episodes of terrorism, violent confrontation, and all-out wars started by the PA.
PA leaders have received more aid money per person than anyone else in history and yet the results have been remarkably unimpressive. The leaders have looted the money and used it as political pay-offs to buy patronage. By patronage I mean paying off the proportionately huge security forces that guard the PA and provide jobs for its supporters and benefits for political supporters.
Note that in recent years the aid money has gone mostly to the West Bank only, though some of it is used to pay PA employees in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip to keep them loyal even if these people just stay at home. In other words, the level of aid has stayed the same but the number of people being supported generally has been cut in half.
Yet the PA cannot provide jobs for most of its people or build good institutions. Luxury apartments are going up but not hospitals, schools, and infrastructure improvements. Even though the PA economy is doing well–how could it not do so given the tidal wave of aid?–the regime cannot even enforce its own law forbidding Palestinians from working on Jewish settlements on the West Bank. Thousands do.
Prime Minister Salam Fayyad is respected in the West as a relatively honest, professional, and moderate guy who tries to stop the thievery. He is totally powerless in political terms. The leaders of Fatah have been working endlessly to get rid of Fayyad so they can have unrestricted access to the loot again, while Hamas also wants to fire him. Only the demands of the Western money donors have kept him in office. But for how much longer will that be true?
Why does the world not pay attention to this massive theft, inefficiency, and misappropriation of funds?
Simple.
–The money is not being given for development purposes but for political purposes to keep the PA going and to make sure that Hamas doesn’t take over the West Bank. That’s why President Barack Obama, with Israeli government support, has just overridden Congress to release even more U.S. aid to the PA. He also has not objected to the PA using that money to pay its former bureaucrats in the Gaza Strip, thus indirectly benefitting Hamas, too.
–Giving money to the PA supposedly supports the cause of peace and therefore is considered sacrosanct in the West, even though the PA isn’t negotiating for peace. From a cynical Western leadership standpoint it can be said that at least the funding keeps things relatively quiet in the face of lots of other troublesome issues in the region. Thus, they overlook the PA’s partnership deal with Hamas–which is not working out so well anyway–and remained passive until the very end about the PA’s violation of its own commitments to seek unilateral independence at the UN.
–The left-controlled media and academia don’t like Israel and generally refuse to criticize the PA because it is allegedly the “moderate,’ ‘peace-loving,” “good guy” and victim. The Palestinians, after all, are non-Christian, non-Western, and–in the bizarre parody of reality prevalent today, “non-white.”
And so the Western taxpayers give the money, the PA leaders steal or use the money for political purposes, and the average Palestinian suffers more from this situation than from the largely extinct “Israeli occupation.” Then their suffering–despite their leaders having received more aid money per capita than any entity in history and being far less than that of people in six dozen countries–is used to indict Israel. If, as seems to be true, Fatah has finally pried control over the money from the hands of Fayyad, whose sin has been that he was too honest, the situation would get much worse.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpo.../lists_controlled_entry_items_4-jul-2010.aspx
List no. 1: Items Subject to Specific Permission / List No. 2: Construction Items and Materials
According to the decision taken on June 20, 2010, by the Israeli Security Cabinet, the Government of Israel - having reviewed the propositions put forward by the USG, the OQR and others - formed two categories of listed items whose entry into Gaza would be subject to Israeli control. Items not included in either would be allowed into Gaza without specific permission.
The lists are:
List no. 1: Items Subject to Specific Permission
1. Arms and Munitions: forbidden transfer under all circumstances across Israel's frontiers without specific permits - as defined in the Control of Exports Security Order (Arms and Munitions) 5768-2008, and in the Control of Exports Security Order (Missile Equipment) 5768-2008.
2. Dual Use goods and items: liable to be used, side by side with their civilian purposes, for the development, production, installation or enhancement of military capabilities and terrorist capacities. This list comprises:
While such items are liable to be used for Hamas military purposes (building bunkers, fortifying positions and digging tunnels) Israel will permit their entry into Gaza so as to facilitate construction projects in Gaza - authorized by the PA and implemented and monitored by the international community.
This list includes:
You are a Palestinian spying for Israel on your own people yet your own people are the traitors. Your sanity is already in question lol
When you vote for yourself as being the smartest that isn't really a valid reference.
I agree that they are heavily involved in all aspect of society. Name one that isn't in the toilet as far as getting things right or working smooth that they are not a burden on the people it covers.
Pick where you want to start, banking?? Got a thread on that already so perhaps that is where this post should go as there are going to be many vids and links to show that my research is solid and that is why the local Jewish collective has to resort to childish bullshit instead of acting like adults with a brain that is capable of more that 'follow the leader'.
Global warming is crap science so if it isn't promoted by Jewish scientist why are they nor exposing it as crap science.
This part is posted in the Rothschild thread so perhaps you reply should be there and we can get down to business.
Where is something to support that considering it is a banned item? Lying on your 1st post is not a good sign, as you are about to find out I do not lie and the only chronic liars here happen to be the whole Jewish collective. Is that something to be proud or, no but that won't hinder the collective. I might as well put you in that groups right now as you already qualified yourself. There is a vid by Miko Peled on here that show the history of Israel from 1947. It starts at the 6 minute mark. Over the years I have posted it several times and not once has anybody from the collective had the balls to debate his facts compared to the bullshit story that the collective believes with all their heart and soul. Is that why the ranks stink so much??
You education starts here.
Where Did All the Billions of Dollars Given to the Palestinian Authority Go?
Palestinian Authority (PA) Prime Minister Salam Fayyad says that his regime is short of funds. And meanwhile a reader asks me:
“Can you please explain to me why 20 years after Oslo and billions in dollars in foreign aid, the Palestinian Authority (PA) still has not built modern hospitals? Or rather, why do the donor countries pour money down the PA drain without expecting even some face-saving results?”
Good question. Short answer: Swiss bank accounts. In other words, a huge amount of the money has been stolen. There is nothing more distasteful than rulers of a people–especially a poor people–who complain about their subjects’ suffering at the same time that they profit from it. Of course, when some foreign observer sees Palestinians in poor conditions they blame Israel, thus furthering the cause of the same leaders who, -by their intransigent policies, ensure that the situation continues.
The personal wealth of PA “president” Mahmoud Abbas is estimated at $100 million. Add onto that millions of dollars for a large number of PA and Fatah senior officials and you get the idea.
I have seen the villas of the PLO leaders in Tunis and the PA leaders in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. I have followed in detail the saga not only of Yasir Arafat’s personal stash but also how he used corruption to sustain his political control. And his heirs mostly continue to run the Palestinian movement.
It is easy to forget that the PA has existed for 18 years and governed virtually every Palestinian there starting about 16 years ago. That’s a long time. And while Israel can be accused of harassment and putting up various roadblocks, its part in this problem has been limited. Indeed, Israeli action that have hurt the PA’s economy have arisen in direct response to episodes of terrorism, violent confrontation, and all-out wars started by the PA.
PA leaders have received more aid money per person than anyone else in history and yet the results have been remarkably unimpressive. The leaders have looted the money and used it as political pay-offs to buy patronage. By patronage I mean paying off the proportionately huge security forces that guard the PA and provide jobs for its supporters and benefits for political supporters.
Note that in recent years the aid money has gone mostly to the West Bank only, though some of it is used to pay PA employees in the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip to keep them loyal even if these people just stay at home. In other words, the level of aid has stayed the same but the number of people being supported generally has been cut in half.
Yet the PA cannot provide jobs for most of its people or build good institutions. Luxury apartments are going up but not hospitals, schools, and infrastructure improvements. Even though the PA economy is doing well–how could it not do so given the tidal wave of aid?–the regime cannot even enforce its own law forbidding Palestinians from working on Jewish settlements on the West Bank. Thousands do.
Prime Minister Salam Fayyad is respected in the West as a relatively honest, professional, and moderate guy who tries to stop the thievery. He is totally powerless in political terms. The leaders of Fatah have been working endlessly to get rid of Fayyad so they can have unrestricted access to the loot again, while Hamas also wants to fire him. Only the demands of the Western money donors have kept him in office. But for how much longer will that be true?
Why does the world not pay attention to this massive theft, inefficiency, and misappropriation of funds?
Simple.
–The money is not being given for development purposes but for political purposes to keep the PA going and to make sure that Hamas doesn’t take over the West Bank. That’s why President Barack Obama, with Israeli government support, has just overridden Congress to release even more U.S. aid to the PA. He also has not objected to the PA using that money to pay its former bureaucrats in the Gaza Strip, thus indirectly benefitting Hamas, too.
–Giving money to the PA supposedly supports the cause of peace and therefore is considered sacrosanct in the West, even though the PA isn’t negotiating for peace. From a cynical Western leadership standpoint it can be said that at least the funding keeps things relatively quiet in the face of lots of other troublesome issues in the region. Thus, they overlook the PA’s partnership deal with Hamas–which is not working out so well anyway–and remained passive until the very end about the PA’s violation of its own commitments to seek unilateral independence at the UN.
–The left-controlled media and academia don’t like Israel and generally refuse to criticize the PA because it is allegedly the “moderate,’ ‘peace-loving,” “good guy” and victim. The Palestinians, after all, are non-Christian, non-Western, and–in the bizarre parody of reality prevalent today, “non-white.”
And so the Western taxpayers give the money, the PA leaders steal or use the money for political purposes, and the average Palestinian suffers more from this situation than from the largely extinct “Israeli occupation.” Then their suffering–despite their leaders having received more aid money per capita than any entity in history and being far less than that of people in six dozen countries–is used to indict Israel. If, as seems to be true, Fatah has finally pried control over the money from the hands of Fayyad, whose sin has been that he was too honest, the situation would get much worse.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/foreignpo.../lists_controlled_entry_items_4-jul-2010.aspx
List no. 1: Items Subject to Specific Permission / List No. 2: Construction Items and Materials
According to the decision taken on June 20, 2010, by the Israeli Security Cabinet, the Government of Israel - having reviewed the propositions put forward by the USG, the OQR and others - formed two categories of listed items whose entry into Gaza would be subject to Israeli control. Items not included in either would be allowed into Gaza without specific permission.
The lists are:
List no. 1: Items Subject to Specific Permission
1. Arms and Munitions: forbidden transfer under all circumstances across Israel's frontiers without specific permits - as defined in the Control of Exports Security Order (Arms and Munitions) 5768-2008, and in the Control of Exports Security Order (Missile Equipment) 5768-2008.
2. Dual Use goods and items: liable to be used, side by side with their civilian purposes, for the development, production, installation or enhancement of military capabilities and terrorist capacities. This list comprises:
- Items listed under the Wassenaar Arrangement: As specified in the updated (2008) "Wassenaar Arrangement on Export Controls for Arms and Dual Use Goods and Technologies - List of Dual Use Goods and Technologies and Munitions List."
- Items whose entry into the PA Areas is controlled based on Israeli legislation: i.e. materials and equipment liable to be used for terror attacks and technology that could be used by terrorists - as defined in the Control of Exports Security Order (Controlled Dual Use Equipment Transferred to the PA Areas) 5768-2008 and in Orders of the OC Central Command.
These lists include, in detail, a range of chemicals used in the production of explosives (including certain fertilizers); specific types of metal profiles; ball bearings; lathes and their parts; composite materials; hunting knives and machetes; optical equipment, such as lasers and night vision goggles; certain navigation aides; diving equipment; parachutes, gliders and other nonmotorized airborne vehicles; flares and fireworks; avionics and flight control equipment; missile related computer technologies; rock drills and equipment drawing water from excavated sites. - Items not necessarily included in the lists above but whose entry into Gaza is controlled, as detailed below:
i. Items and chemicals which could be used in the production of high trajectory weapons (rockets and mortars) by Hamas and other terror groups in Gaza - Fertilizers or other mixtures - specifically containing KCl at more than 5%; Epoxy and Vinyl Ester resins; Hardeners for Epoxy Resins containing Amides or Amines; Accelerators for Vinyl Esters; HTPB; Water purification solutions at concentrations higher than 11%.
ii. Items used as raw materials for improving protection for terror activists
- Fibers or woven fabrics containing Carbon or Glass variants.
iii. Vessels.
List No. 2: Construction Items and Materials to be Allowed Entry into Gaza only for PA-authorized Projects Implemented by the International Communityii. Items used as raw materials for improving protection for terror activists
- Fibers or woven fabrics containing Carbon or Glass variants.
iii. Vessels.
While such items are liable to be used for Hamas military purposes (building bunkers, fortifying positions and digging tunnels) Israel will permit their entry into Gaza so as to facilitate construction projects in Gaza - authorized by the PA and implemented and monitored by the international community.
This list includes:
- Portland cement and lime (in bulk, bags or barrels)
- Natural and Quarry aggregates and all varieties of gravel
- Ready concrete
- Precast concrete elements and products
- Steel elements and/or construction products
- Iron for foundations and columns, at any diameter (including wielded steel nets)
- Steel cables of any width
- Forms for construction elements (plastics or galvanized iron)
- Industrialized forms for casting concrete
- Plastic or composite beams more than 4 mm thick
- Thermal isolation materials and products
- Blocs (at any width) - Concrete; Silicate; Ytong or its equivalent; or gypsum
- Materials and products for sealing structures
- Asphalt and its components (Bitumen, emulsion) in aggregate or packaged
- Steel elements or framing products for construction
- Cast concrete elements and products for drainage over 1 m in diameter
- Precast units and sea-borne containers
- Vehicles, excluding private cars and including 4X4 vehicles and other categories of motor vehicles liable to be used in terror activities
- Lumber beams and boards more than 2 cm thick, (liable to be used in "offensive" tunneling aimed at penetrating Israeli territory), unless incorporated in finished products
- Specific procedures, on a case by case basis, will be established so as to permit the transfer of such lumber for other purposes in Gaza.
You are a Palestinian spying for Israel on your own people yet your own people are the traitors. Your sanity is already in question lol
I may be a lot of things but definitely not a troll.
I respectfully disagree, except as below.
I am totally in your corner on global warming.
This chart below shows winter temperatures in Chicago since 1872. A skim of this chart shows, basically, no trend. I suspect the same can be said of most if not all inhabited areas. The global warming or "climate change" alarmists will show us charts of "world" or "global" temperatures.
Can any show a chart like the one below where temperatures have shown a general pattern of increase based on consistently maintained records?
The logical assumption is that there is little or no climate change. The whole theory seems weird. I am 60 and and to the best of my memory a New York summer is a New York summer and a New York winter is a New York winter. For many years people have been saying it would never go below zero again in Central Park and, lo and behold, this past winter it went below zero.
If one looks at literature such as books about the Revolutionary or Civil War, i.e. before much industrialization the climate and weather in just about all areas was similar to today. The one exception I will grant are Charles Dickens' novels. There was a sharp cold period during the 1600's through mid-1700's. But other than that status would appear to be quo.
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That is refreshing to hear. As you may have noticed my patience with trolls (the same posters time after time after time) is down to insulting them rather than trying to have an honest debate with them.
lol, at least in this corner I'm not alone. One of the sources for charts is a youtube channel by Adapt2030 and his mini ice-age series. Where we part company is with the sunspot theory as the cause as i put it down to the 40,000 miles of ricts in the oveanic crust is letting off more heat and that is causing a change in the wind patterns. ie, the Pacific warm blob is heat from the rift and the warmer water is making the easterly wind blow more to the north and that is causing an Arctic outflow that comes down the middle of North America.
I would also promote that if NY gets buries it will be from 'lake effect snow' only the Atlantic's warm water coming from the GOM would be the source of the moisture.
There are a few thread on it so if you would like to compare notes I'm more than willing to do that.
The validity of the measurements made from rural weather stations that are now surrounded by miles of asphalt and concrete is the cause for the temperature rise. The data in those cases are accurate, the reasoning of why there is an increase is what is flawed, intentionally.
Sure, for the same reason I just mentioned. Take the readings freom the ones that are still rural and the heat gain disappears.
Historical patterns are there so there is a natural process that can warm the place up or cool it off. The effects of that are being used to create fear and that is money in the pocket or money wasted on crap science instead of it being spent where it would actually do some good.
I could get quite involved in the topic, on this thread it was to show that if Jews are not the ones pushing the UN agenda then they should be able to see the flaws and put an end to it. They aren't so how can they be anything but part of the false claims? Unfortunately it covers more areas than global warming.
IMO an ice-age would actually make all the desert regions green so they could have 2 crops per year so food production would go up and the distances between groups of people would be shorter making transportation of goods easier also. That is sharp contrast to the near extinction that is currently being promoted.
I corrected my age in the post. I happen to be Jewish, and not all Jews are pro-UN. I happen to support the U.S., Canada, UK, Australia, Japan and Israel withdrawing from the U.N. However there can be an exception to that; how would Canada like to host the U.N. in Iqaluit or Kugluktuk. Both are getting nice around this time of year. And the delegates can impose their parking tickets and rubber checks on those municipalities.
It is now 12:01 NYC (or Toronto) time but I will engage more on these issues. I don't like the stereotyping of any people, especially my own.
It is now 12:01 NYC (or Toronto) time but I will engage more on these issues. I don't like the stereotyping of any people, especially my own.
I believe Judge Goldstone would agree that there is a collective in the Jesish community that does allow pressure to be used when morality is to be over ridden.
I'm not using a wide brush as my posts point out specific individuals on the board and in the upper levels of society. Most Jews are left holding an empty bag as the banksters make there getaway. That has been the norm for a very long time and the 350 year exile from England in 1290 is one of the best examples of being set up to be the fall guy.
If I was to post a list of all of Trump's Government it would show a high percent are Jews. When they have dual citizenship where are their loyalties, with the US or with Israel?? One would seem to be better for America than the other.
I'm willing to wager that the UN moved to Jerusalem and administered by Jews would suddenly become a very effective organization. That would be because it is the final act in a plan to create an Israel that is almost at it's 140 year anniversary rather than Gentiles don't have a clue how to run things.
I'm also above expert on the whole Bible rather than just the NT or OT. What comes out of me is honesty rather than racism running wild. Time will verify that.
I'm not using a wide brush as my posts point out specific individuals on the board and in the upper levels of society. Most Jews are left holding an empty bag as the banksters make there getaway. That has been the norm for a very long time and the 350 year exile from England in 1290 is one of the best examples of being set up to be the fall guy.
If I was to post a list of all of Trump's Government it would show a high percent are Jews. When they have dual citizenship where are their loyalties, with the US or with Israel?? One would seem to be better for America than the other.
I'm willing to wager that the UN moved to Jerusalem and administered by Jews would suddenly become a very effective organization. That would be because it is the final act in a plan to create an Israel that is almost at it's 140 year anniversary rather than Gentiles don't have a clue how to run things.
I'm also above expert on the whole Bible rather than just the NT or OT. What comes out of me is honesty rather than racism running wild. Time will verify that.
If Shim Bet was protecting him all those years how many West Bank Palestinians were killed when they discovered he was a rat?
This may explain why the PA is viewed as being in the pocket of the creeps running Israel at the moment.
Palestinian Government Meets in Gaza for First Time Since 2014
The Palestinian cabinet met in Gaza on Tuesday for the first time since 2014 in a further step towards the internationally recognised Palestinian Authority retaking control of the territory.
The meeting of the government, which is based in the occupied West Bank, comes as part of moves to end a decade-long split between the PA and the Islamist Hamas movement, which runs Gaza.
In an opening speech, Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah renewed his pledge to end the rift.
"We are here to turn the page on division, restore the national project to its correct direction and establish the (Palestinian) state," he said.
It was the first meeting of the cabinet in Gaza since November 2014, and comes a day after Hamdallah entered the territory for the first time since a unity government collapsed in June 2015.
On Monday, he met with senior Hamas figures, including leader Ismail Haniya.
After Tuesday's cabinet meeting, government spokesman Yusuf Al Mahmud said ministers discussed the humanitarian situation in Gaza. No Hamas officials took part.
Mahmud warned that a full reconciliation deal would take time.
"The government does not have a magic wand," he told reporters.
More than two million people live in impoverished Gaza, which has been blockaded by Israel and Egypt for years.
The sides will hold further talks next week in the Egyptian capital Cairo.
Punitive measures imposed by the PA against Hamas, including cutting electricity payments for Gaza, would remain in place pending the result of those talks, Mahmoud added.
So the fukers have been punishing the people of Gaza for some time and now they want to claim to be the Governmet by/for the people rather than being the Israeli rats that they are.
This may explain why the PA is viewed as being in the pocket of the creeps running Israel at the moment.
Palestinian Government Meets in Gaza for First Time Since 2014
The Palestinian cabinet met in Gaza on Tuesday for the first time since 2014 in a further step towards the internationally recognised Palestinian Authority retaking control of the territory.
The meeting of the government, which is based in the occupied West Bank, comes as part of moves to end a decade-long split between the PA and the Islamist Hamas movement, which runs Gaza.
In an opening speech, Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah renewed his pledge to end the rift.
"We are here to turn the page on division, restore the national project to its correct direction and establish the (Palestinian) state," he said.
It was the first meeting of the cabinet in Gaza since November 2014, and comes a day after Hamdallah entered the territory for the first time since a unity government collapsed in June 2015.
On Monday, he met with senior Hamas figures, including leader Ismail Haniya.
After Tuesday's cabinet meeting, government spokesman Yusuf Al Mahmud said ministers discussed the humanitarian situation in Gaza. No Hamas officials took part.
Mahmud warned that a full reconciliation deal would take time.
"The government does not have a magic wand," he told reporters.
More than two million people live in impoverished Gaza, which has been blockaded by Israel and Egypt for years.
The sides will hold further talks next week in the Egyptian capital Cairo.
Punitive measures imposed by the PA against Hamas, including cutting electricity payments for Gaza, would remain in place pending the result of those talks, Mahmoud added.
So the fukers have been punishing the people of Gaza for some time and now they want to claim to be the Governmet by/for the people rather than being the Israeli rats that they are.
This would fit in why a traitor who is (falsely) portrayed as a Hamas member would be making speeches against the very organization that is the only opposition to the Hamas that has been in Gaza since 1987. If the allowed changes happen every 20 years then 2018 is the next due date. 1967-87 military blockade, 1987-2007 Israeli controlled government, 2007-2017 Hamas in control that does execute traitors.
Palestinian Reconciliation - Reasons for Hope?
For three days it was all smiles as the Palestinian prime minister held talks in Gaza with Hamas but as the symbolic visit draws to a close the real work for reconciliation is just beginning.
The two sides will meet again for in-depth negotiations next week.
After a decade of division, are there reasons to believe the rival Palestinian factions might finally come together?
What happened?On Monday, Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah arrived in Gaza for the first time since 2015, describing it as a "historic" moment.
He met with the leaders of Hamas Ismail Haniya, as well with the head of Egyptian intelligence, while also convening his cabinet in Gaza for the first time in nearly three years.
Hamas has ruled the territory since 2007, when it seized it from the PA in a near civil war and multiple previous reconciliation attempts have failed.
But after Egyptian mediation, last month the Islamists of Hamas agreed to hand over civil power to the internationally recognised PA, which is based in the West Bank.
What is at stake?The most immediate issue is the suffering of the two million Gazans, who have faced three devastating wars with Israel since 2008, as well as crippling blockades by both Israel and Egypt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas
Palestinian Reconciliation - Reasons for Hope?
For three days it was all smiles as the Palestinian prime minister held talks in Gaza with Hamas but as the symbolic visit draws to a close the real work for reconciliation is just beginning.
The two sides will meet again for in-depth negotiations next week.
After a decade of division, are there reasons to believe the rival Palestinian factions might finally come together?
What happened?On Monday, Palestinian Authority Prime Minister Rami Hamdallah arrived in Gaza for the first time since 2015, describing it as a "historic" moment.
He met with the leaders of Hamas Ismail Haniya, as well with the head of Egyptian intelligence, while also convening his cabinet in Gaza for the first time in nearly three years.
Hamas has ruled the territory since 2007, when it seized it from the PA in a near civil war and multiple previous reconciliation attempts have failed.
But after Egyptian mediation, last month the Islamists of Hamas agreed to hand over civil power to the internationally recognised PA, which is based in the West Bank.
What is at stake?The most immediate issue is the suffering of the two million Gazans, who have faced three devastating wars with Israel since 2008, as well as crippling blockades by both Israel and Egypt.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Hamas
Damn, I hate it when that happens. All that not hard work, . . . gone. What the hell am I supposed to do now???
Does it do the dicks of perverts like Sleepy??
Does it do the dicks of perverts like Sleepy??