There are a lot of roads built by business too that the public benefits from.
Economically speaking, one's income is a pretty good measure of how much one benefits from the infrastructure and structure of government.
You may dare suggest it, but again, I'm not sure. Even leaving aside your ridiculous separation of "business" life and "personal" life, I'd bet Imp-ex makes far more personal use of structure and infrastructure than Skippy.
But I'm not even sure we're even debating the right question. Until we get some more basic stuff hashed out, arguing over who should pay more, in absolute numbers or by percentage, is just yelling past each other.
Agreed isn't there a private bridge that is going to be built to twin a public one that is also going to be built in Southern Ont. to Michigan
No idea. I'm talking about roads built by business that have opened up areas to recreation, connected remote people to civilization, or partnered with Govt.
It's pointless to have this discussion with one that has no idea whatsoever what it takes to operate a business, let alone the myriad of risks and obstacles.... The logic is Floosy-esque in nature, meaning you'd have a deeper and more relevant discussion with a 4 year old on astrophysics
Really?
Exactly how does a business owner, personally make greater use of the infrastructure?
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Oh, I see.
You have it backwards Warren Buffett.... Your donations are calculated against the taxable income that is later determined, not the other way around.
There's that "fair share" term again. :roll:
So what is a fair share in your opinion?
It`s their money, they can do with it whatever they want
No idea. I'm talking about roads built by business that have opened up areas to recreation, connected remote people to civilization, or partnered with Govt.
[/ who is paying for the upgrades to the highway going to Fort McMurry? It certainly is not big oil.
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What percentage of tax money do you think is squandered? 40%, 50%, 60%? When a rich man makes a charitable donation almost every dollar is an effective dollar compared to the "empty" dollars he's forced to donate by most wasteful bureaucraps!![]()
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Yes, really, Adam Smith. The wealthier a person is the more likely they are to use all sorts of facilities paid for by government, such as recreational facilities; airports; universities; and the roads and other infrastructure that go into malls and industrial parks. Here is one that should be right up your alley - who is paying for the upgrades to the highway going to Fort McMurry? It certainly is not big oil.
And what does charity have to do with taxation? If you are stating that donating to charity lowers your income tax then you are correct. I just don't know how that is connected to the topic.
What do you think it is? I think it should be equivalent to what a wealthy person gets out of society.
Of course it is their money. But when they send it in some of the ways mentioned it is obvious that some people have more money than brains. I would much rather have that sort of money spent in a manner that is more to the benefit of society as a whole; let's say by raising the wages of those who actually hold society together.
Right. May we have an example of such a road? To my knowledge most communication infrastructure is built by government and then used by industry. It certainly is in Canada.
Bar Sinister; Right. May we have an example of such a road? To my knowledge most communication infrastructure is built by government and then used by industry. It certainly is in Canada.[/QUOTE said:Most logging roads in BC. Some are also built by government and loggers must pay a fee for using them while the public enjoys free use.
With the amount of tax revenue Alberta receives from the oil sandsoperations I would say they more than pay for any infrastructure.
It`s their money, they can do with it whatever they want
All of which creates jobs for working people. When the so called rich are overtaxed they tend to leave and take much of their spending elsewhere which costs real jobs.
Still short of a definition of fair share.
CPCN telecommunications is owned by government ?
Apparently so id SHaw, Bell, Telus.
CPCN telecommunications is owned by government ?
We seem to have the usual two or more threads going on this topic. I am only going to respond in one of them.
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All of which creates jobs for working people. When the so called rich are overtaxed they tend to leave and take much of their spending elsewhere which costs real jobs.
It was the company that set up instant telecommunications across Canada . It was jointly owned by CN Rail and CP Rail . It has since changed hands and gone through a number of name changes . Look it up , an interesting history .What is CPCN telecommunications?
Yes, really, Adam Smith. The wealthier a person is the more likely they are to use all sorts of facilities paid for by government, such as recreational facilities; airports; universities; and the roads and other infrastructure that go into malls and industrial parks. Here is one that should be right up your alley - who is paying for the upgrades to the highway going to Fort McMurry? It certainly is not big oil.
And what does charity have to do with taxation? If you are stating that donating to charity lowers your income tax then you are correct. I just don't know how that is connected to the topic.
And I would be very happy to pay almost no tax so that I could increase my charitable donations.
What do you think it is? I think it should be equivalent to what a wealthy person gets out of society.
Of course it is their money. But when they send it in some of the ways mentioned it is obvious that some people have more money than brains. I would much rather have that sort of money spent in a manner that is more to the benefit of society as a whole; let's say by raising the wages of those who actually hold society together.
Right. May we have an example of such a road? To my knowledge most communication infrastructure is built by government and then used by industry. It certainly is in Canada.
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Right. May we have an example of such a road? To my knowledge most communication infrastructure is built by government and then used by industry. It certainly is in Canada.
The Highway connecting Conklin to Ft. Mac was first built as an ice road by loggers then improved by the oil companies finally improved to transportation standards and paved by the Prov. as a year round road for everyone.
...and it's still a shitty road with lots of fatalities because of all the drunk drivers.
It was the company that set up instant telecommunications across Canada . It was jointly owned by CN Rail and CP Rail . It has since changed hands and gone through a number of name changes . Look it up , an interesting history .
...and it's still a shitty road with lots of fatalities because of all the drunk drivers.