Call for Sir John A. Macdonald school to be renamed

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The Elementary Teachers' Federation of Ontario (ETFO) has approved a motion calling on school boards across the province to rename schools bearing the name of Canada’s first prime minister.

The motion, which was passed during ETFO’s annual meeting earlier this month, says school boards should rethink the use of Sir John A. Macdonald’s name “in recognition of his central role as the architect of genocide against Indigenous peoples, the impact that this has on the relationship between Indigenous and non-Indigenous students, parents and educators, and the ways in which his namesake buildings can contribute to an unsafe space to learn and to work.”

David Mastin, president of ETFO’s Durham local, says there was “a fair bit” of discussion on the motion and that he expects it to be controversial locally.

He says the Durham ETFO chapter plans to lobby the Durham District School Board to change the name of Sir John A. Macdonald Public School in Pickering — the only Durham District School Board (DDSB) school bearing the name of the first prime minister.

“The thought that there could be Indigenous children in our public houses of learning, who could be triggered by negative thoughts … that’s what really got to me,” Mastin says.

He acknowledged that some people might see this as a move to “erase history,” but stressed that it’s about creating spaces where all students feel accepted and safe.

Terry Simzer, communications manager for the DDSB, says trustees don’t have their first meeting of the school year until September and that the issue will need to go through them.

“We will need to consult with our trustees and the trustee’s provincial association to determine how we will respond to ETFO’s position,” he said.

There are many schools in Ontario named for Sir John A. Macdonald, including ones in Scarborough, Markham, Brampton, Kingston, Hamilton, Waterloo and Belleville.

Macdonald served as prime minister from 1867 to 1873 and again from 1878 to 1891.

He is often characterized as a nation builder who led Canada through its early growth — including helping to bring the country together under confederation and overseeing the completion of the Canadian Pacific Railway.

However, critics have long raised concerns about Macdonald’s treatment of Indigenous people, notably his role in creating the residential school system and starving Indigenous communities to facilitate building the railway.

Mastin says removing Macdonald’s name from schools will leave no shortage of memorials.

Macdonald appears on the $10 bill and his name can be found on Ottawa’s Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway, and Highway 401, which is formally named the Macdonald-Cartier Freeway.

His grave has been designated a national historic site, and statues of Macdonald have been erected across Canada, including at Parliament Hill in Ottawa and Queen’s Park in Toronto.

https://www.durhamregion.com/news-s...-saying-canada-s-first-pm-committed-genocide/
 

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This'll probably shock the sh*t out of my usual detractors, leaving their skulls completely empty, but I don't think this is a good idea. Mr. McDonald had some pretty bad ideas about Indians, but that don't weigh real heavy against his achievements. Further, his wrong ideas were widely held at the time, and though he did a lot of damage, that wasn't his intention.

Contrast Robert E. Lee. He was an officer in the U.S. Army, and he knew full well what he was doing was treason under the Constitution, universally reviled. Further, he killed thousands of his own countrymen, and he did it all in pursuit of maintaining human slavery, which was generally thought to be immoral in the West at the time, as evidenced by the fact that Britain had outlawed slavery in 1833, and the U.S. had outlawed the slave trade.
 

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This'll probably shock the sh*t out of my usual detractors, leaving their skulls completely empty, but I don't think this is a good idea. Mr. McDonald had some pretty bad ideas about Indians, but that don't weigh real heavy against his achievements. Further, his wrong ideas were widely held at the time, and though he did a lot of damage, that wasn't his intention.

Contrast Robert E. Lee. He was an officer in the U.S. Army, and he knew full well what he was doing was treason under the Constitution, universally reviled. Further, he killed thousands of his own countrymen, and he did it all in pursuit of maintaining human slavery, which was generally thought to be immoral in the West at the time, as evidenced by the fact that Britain had outlawed slavery in 1833, and the U.S. had outlawed the slave trade.

John A. MacDonald knew exactly what he was doing. His Minister of Public Works, Hector Langevin, had said:

"The fact is that if you wish to educate the children you must separate them from their parents during the time they are being taught. If you leave them in the family they may know how to read and write, but they will remain savages, whereas by separating them in the way proposed, they acquire the habits and tastes…of civilized people.”

In fact some Parliament backbenchers vehemently opposed them. So they knew what they were doing.

White hatred continues

I don't hate you.
 

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This'll probably shock the sh*t out of my usual detractors, leaving their skulls completely empty, but I don't think this is a good idea. Mr. McDonald had some pretty bad ideas about Indians, but that don't weigh real heavy against his achievements. Further, his wrong ideas were widely held at the time, and though he did a lot of damage, that wasn't his intention.

Unacceptable!!! You're hatred of white people is incomplete
 

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It's time to let the past go

I absolutely agree. That's why I think laws should be based on logic and not trying to preserve a point in history.

It's almost like you think I said he didn't know what he was doing. Which is weird.

Sorry if I misunderstood. But though his ideas were widespread at the time, vocal christian opposition to the establishment of the Indian residential school system existed right from the start, even in parliament. I just don't remember the Parliamentarian's name though, but when I find it, I'll post it.
 

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I absolutely agree. That's why I think laws should be based on logic and not trying to preserve a point in history.



Sorry if I misunderstood. But though his ideas were widespread at the time, vocal christian opposition to the establishment of the Indian residential school system existed right from the start, even in parliament. I just don't remember the Parliamentarian's name though, but when I find it, I'll post it.

You don't seem to have much of a sense of scale. "Vocal Christian opposition" and a small group of backbenchers ain't quite the same level of unity and certainty as laws passed in the U.S. and the U.K.
 

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Yes, we should call it something other then school
Possibly the 'Sir John A McDonald "indoctrination center"' would work

That would be the same teachers living off the avails of Sir John A., and everyone like him.
You should see all the teachers cottages around here that are on disputed land that was reservation, never for sale, but sold to ol YT anyway.
 

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This is going to lead to the enslavement of mankind.

/paranoidlibertarian
 

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Except for the last few hundred years most of mankind has been enslaved for millennia.

Without the industrial revolution to boost production exponentially we still would be. Funny we only grew a moral concept after steam engines
 

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We've actually been evolving toward betterment since the beginning, but who needs facts.
 

Danbones

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Ah, first you must create the undo...
Oh wait a minute...We don't get undos

All we have is today and maybe tomorrow...
If today doesn't get too effed up.

Of course the best slave dungeon is the one where you can't see the bars.