Trump’s Remarks on Charlottesville Violence Are Criticized as Insufficient

Corduroy

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I subscribe to the theory there are 2 lines intersecting. On the X axis is left / right politics. On the Y access is fascism / anarchy spectrum. You are a dot somewhere on the box.



That's probably inaccurate. Authoritarians wouldn't want people to have guns, would they? Still, I thought it was funny.
 

Durry

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But. . . but. . . but. . . I thought America was a Kenyan Muslim socialist shithole after Obama destroyed it.

Or don't you even remember your own brain-damaged propaganda?
You have me confused with another Poster. It's rather strange because no one is as brilliant as me and you should be able to easily recognize my Posts.

I never stated the above as you imply
 

Bar Sinister

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Go to the ex Warsaw Pact countries, ask the old people about what they learned for history.
You'd be shocked.
Trying to destroy history is normal operating procedures for Communists.
And this is what we are witnessing.

Communists? Sounds like your brain is stuck in the 1950s when everything people didn't like was labelled communist. And just a little historical update - trying to destroy history is also pretty much the norm for fascists. I wonder what category you fit into?
 

mentalfloss

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Half of this problem is the ambiguity of the terminology.

Nazis are called 'right' and people who are supposedly against fascism want to prevent free speech.


We're fukking upside down and inside out and we won't get anywhere unless we can begin with concrete concepts that are universally understood.
 

White_Unifier

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By the way, for the 3% of us who haven't already slapped a label on the "antifa" and are now going to foolishly bawl that the stereotype holds true for every single one, here's a pretty good look at who they are. . .

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...the-antifa/?tid=pm_pop&utm_term=.ff096c00a331

Inasmuch as I sympathize with them, I don't agree with their tactics. To operate outside the law only provides an excuse to do the same. Sure fascists might already operate outside the law, but when antifa do it, then the fascists have a new pretext for their illegal actions.

It would seem that a better solution is to educate the fascists; and like it or not, that might mean ignoring their non-violent antics and befriending them.

Half of this problem is the ambiguity of the terminology.

Nazis are called 'right' and people who are supposedly against fascism want to prevent free speech.


We're fukking upside down and inside out and we won't get anywhere unless we can begin with concrete concepts that are universally understood.

All sides are guilty of muddying the waters of clear terminology.
 

Corduroy

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Half of this problem is the ambiguity of the terminology.

Nazis are called 'right' and people who are supposedly against fascism want to prevent free speech.

Yes and people identify their moderate opinions as either left or right and so when someone says an evil ideology is on either the left or right, they get defensive of their own position. There's no point in that. A liberal and a conservative have more in common with each other than either of them do with a fascist. If you pin fascism on the right, it doesn't mean others on the right support fascism or are less like liberals than fascists.

People seem obsessed with applying these crude binary labels for the sole purpose of embarrassing moderate ideologies they oppose. It's silly.

The easiest thing to do is to resist identifying personally with everything on your political spectrum. I could go and dispute the idea that fascism is left-wing, but that's a tedious and ultimately pointless debate. I just don't care. I'm against fascism either way you want to label it.
 

Kreskin

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Unless the Dems put forward a real scrapper for Prez and they have a platform which is more than just parading multiculturalism Trump will win again.
 

Danbones

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Right.... this is just agit prop from the same old tired gobalistnazifascistcommunist party.

Good to know who Trump and the law abiding american peeps are facing here.
(as opposed the the gun taking, Hitler helper, Soros funded globalistfascistnazicommie country killers on the other side.)

Oh hi Cord! How's tricks in globalistfascistnazicommie land?

Unless the Dems put forward a real scrapper for Prez and they have a platform which is more than just parading multiculturalism Trump will win again.

If it isn't obvious the party of slavery (the Dems, if you don't follow history much) are about dead in the head these days.