Al Gore is BACK in an Inconvenient Sequel

[Jinentonix]

You're talking about revenue neutrality.

I'm talking about carbon emissions reductions.


Just to confirm for you (in case you weren't aware).. Revenue Neutrality is not carbon emissions reductions.

Either way, BC did not reduce their emissions by anything worth mentioning. A whopping 5.5% in a decade. Oh yeah, that's worth almost $100 million a year for little return. If anyone else spent that kind of money on an investment for that puny return over a decade they'd get laughed at because they're morons.
By the by, that reduction is about 3 metric tonnes. Which is kind of like saying I helped reduce the flooding in Quebec and Ontario by emptying out a whole bucket of floodwater someplace else.
Of course the real question is, is that 5.5% the total reduction or merely the net reduction. You DO understand the difference right? Or do I have to explain THAT to you as well.

 

[mentalfloss]

The reductions were actually better than what was expected based on the Kyoto protocol. And they actually reduced emissions while having GDP growth and balancing the budget.

But yes, I don't expect you to understand anything about the economy anymore.

Conbots are Trumptards now so anything associated with 'liberal' is heresy.

 

[captain morgan]

The reductions were actually better than what was expected based on the Kyoto protocol. And they actually reduced emissions while having GDP growth and balancing the budget.

Got any real numbers to back that up. moreso than the glossy brochure from the BC gvt that also has no hard data?

 

[mentalfloss]

Of course.

The data is plentiful and everywhere.

You just have to be a bumbling, back country idiot to miss it.


At the same time, it’s been extraordinarily effective in tackling the root cause of carbon pollution: the burning of fossil fuels. Since the tax came in, fuel use in B.C. has dropped by 16 per cent; in the rest of Canada, it’s risen by 3 per cent (counting all fuels covered by the tax). To put that accomplishment in perspective, Canada’s Kyoto target was a 6-per-cent reduction in 20 years. And the evidence points to the carbon tax as the major driver of these B.C. gains.

https://sec.theglobeandmail.com/opi...bon-tax-it-works/article19512237/?service=amp

 

[White_Unifier]

A carbon tax is a win-win. It helps to pay government debt while influencing consumer behaviour.

The reductions were actually better than what was expected based on the Kyoto protocol. And they actually reduced emissions while having GDP growth and balancing the budget.

But yes, I don't expect you to understand anything about the economy anymore.

Reducing oil consumption and balancing the budget are good things in themselves. GDP growth is an added bonus as long as it's sustainable.

 

[Cliffy]

Of course.

The data is plentiful and everywhere.

You just have to be a bumbling, back country idiot to miss it.

You can't convince anybody of the facts when they are heavily invested in industries that are destroying the planet. The tar sands are the rape of our air, water and soil; in other words, are killing our life support system, the biosphere. But as long as they are making money from this rape, they don't don't care who suffers, even themselves, as long as the cash keeps flowing in their direction. They are like smokers on oxygen support, the addiction overrides their need to breath.

 

[taxslave]

An economist who I knew who’s deceased now, his name was Rudi Dornbusch, he once said things take longer to happen than you think they will, and then they happen much faster than you thought they could. And I’ve seen that in the technology areas with these exponential curves. I’ve seen it in political and social revolutions. I’ll just use one quick example. If somebody had told me even five years ago that in 2017, gay marriage would be fully legal in all 50 states and accepted and honored and celebrated by two-thirds of the American people, I would’ve said well I sure hope so, but I think that’s wildly unrealistic, you’re being naïve. Change can’t happen that quickly. But it did.

Al Gore:

So the ice age is coming fast.

These small bouts of warm weather and wetness are just gods wrath for not believing.

 

[petros]

And once he got his check he invested it into a seaside property .

Has a penny of Fed infrastructure money gone into preparing for sea rise? Over the last decade billions upon billion have been spent building new ports at sea level and intertidal river port but not a penny to raise them.

 

[Johnnny]

See this is what i'm talking about. Why do we have TWO Al Gore threads...!!!!

 

[DaSleeper]

Ooops.....In post # 55 I aged myself by 10 years.....It was 53 years ago, in 1964........ so in 2002 only 38 years had elapsed between the two levels measurements

 

[Cliffy]

What Caused The Recent Record-Breaking Megatsunami In Greenland?

One of the largest tsunamis ever recorded – a veritable “mega-tsunami” – took place back on June 17 this year, but it probably passed you by.
This 100-meter-high (328 feet) wave devastated a small Greenlandic community. It was generated by a landslide, which itself was so large that it registered as a 4.1M earthquake on nearby seismographs.
Before we go into the backstory here, a little science lesson is required. Most tsunamis are triggered by earthquakes along specific fault zones called “thrusts”, which involves one side of the fault moving downwards relative to the other. This allows for a vast volume of water to be displaced and triggers a tsunami, which only rises up and causes destruction when it hits land.


What Caused The Recent Record-Breaking Megatsunami In Greenland? | IFLScience

 

[Bar Sinister]

Sixty three years ago I was in New Brunswick and for some reason that I don't remember one day when a fisherman told me that it was the highest tide of the month, I chipped a mark with hammer and chisel at sea level on a rock outcropping near the shore with my initials and the initials of the girl I was going out with at the time just above it.
15 years ago, in 2002, 48 years later, I happened to be vising relatives about the same time of the year at the highest tide of the month and I went to check that rock ......
The initials and the mark were a little eroded but still visible at water level...The reason my wife and I went to check is because my wife and that girl have the same first name.. :lol:
Some day I will find the picture among the thousands I took with that old digital "Mavica".....And I'll Post it.

I won't try too hard because the Al Gore and Suzuki lemmings wouldn't change their minds anyway.....

I've got no doubt that you anecdotal observations are accurate, primarily because a rise of only a few millimeters a year would hardly be noticeable in the time period you stated; not unless you installed sensitive measuring instruments next to the rock you marked. That does not mean there was no rise in sea level, just that your system for measuring it was too crude.

 

[mentalfloss]

Al Gore: Electoral college should be abolished

 

[Walter]

Al Gore: Electoral college should be abolished

Yeah, cuz California, Illinois and New York should govern the US. The other states suck.

 

[mentalfloss]

Yes, because we should make the ultimate authority some arbitrary set of locked lands because it looks nicer to you.

It doesn't matter where people live, it's how many there are.

If anything, getting rid of the electoral college, means that people don't have to strategically vote for the meathead they don't like.

 

[B00Mer]

Yeah, cuz California, Illinois and New York should govern the US. The other states suck.

Better than being governed by bible thumping tards in the midwest which have more similarities to ISIS such as, anti-Gay, anti-Womens Right and the list goes on..

 

[PoliticalNick]

So what is it that you don't believe that the Climate is Changing, or that man kind is responsible for it?

The only constant thing in Earth's climate for 4 billion years is change and NO, it is not man made.

You do belive the earth went through an ice age, right.. so up to present day, what has the climate done to get where we are today?

Multiple Ice Ages along with many warming and inter-glacial periods.

You do know what the Canadian Shield is, right?

Do you? At one time the Canadian shield was tropical, another time it was under miles of ice, back and forth multiple times so things are gonna change with or without us.

Pictures from different locations and different angles do not make for compelling comparison. It in fact makes it impossible to compare.

 

[taxslave]

The only constant thing in Earth's climate for 4 billion years is change and NO, it is not man made.

Multiple Ice Ages along with many warming and inter-glacial periods.

Do you? At one time the Canadian shield was tropical, another time it was under miles of ice, back and forth multiple times so things are gonna change with or without us.

Pictures from different locations and different angles do not make for compelling comparison. It in fact makes it impossible to compare.

That's the whole point of doing it. You are not supposed to question the story line. Just obediently send your money. All of it and all you can borrow.

 

[Cliffy]

 

[Walter]

Talk to the Chinese about pollution.