Should religions be classified as Fake News? The bible seems to say yes.

French Patriot

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Should religions be classified as Fake News? The bible seems to say yes.

Fake News is what many are calling lies or distortions of the truth these days.

No organizations distort the truth and outright lie about Gods than the organized religions.

Should religions be classified as Fake News?

The bible seems to say yes.

Isaiah 56:11) "They are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, each on to his unjust gain, to the last one" But do not despair, for the day of judgment is at hand, for the day of judgment and the day of the LORD occupy the same time frame. All the dross will be burned away. (Zech 13:9) & (Malachi 3:3). In that day, "you will distinguish between the righteous and the wicked" (Malachi 3:18)

Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.

Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

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DL
 

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Shouldn't there be a "step into my parlor little boy" line in there somewhere?

 

French Patriot

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Shouldn't there be a "step into my parlor little boy" line in there somewhere?


To theists? Perhaps.


That is the same for any thread that questions Christian beliefs, and have you noted how few Christians actually try to apologies for their religion? They cannot do a good job and do not bother much these days, even as their church hierarchies try to encourage them to do just that.


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Gnosticism is a religion, non?



Oui.


All religions are belief systems.
Gnosticism is a belief in freedom of thought and the belief that evil or immoral thinking must be fought.


I am a Gnostic Christian because most people I deal with are familiar or into Christianity and my reading of the bible the right way has shown me that it preaches for Gnostic thinking.


That may be why Christianity outlawed the reading of the bible in ancient days and killed those who went against that injunction.


IOW, Christianity outlawed the freedom of religion that it now demands for itself.


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Oui.


All religions are belief systems.
Gnosticism is a belief in freedom of thought and the belief that evil or immoral thinking must be fought.


I am a Gnostic Christian because most people I deal with are familiar or into Christianity and my reading of the bible the right way has shown me that it preaches for Gnostic thinking.


That may be why Christianity outlawed the reading of the bible in ancient days and killed those who went against that injunction.


IOW, Christianity outlawed the freedom of religion that it now demands for itself.


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DL

So as a religion, Gnosticism qualifies as FRAUDULENT NEWS?
 

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So as a religion, Gnosticism qualifies as FRAUDULENT NEWS?



If it can be proven to be based on lies the way Christianity can, sure, but I do not that possible or I would not have adopted the religion.


If we were no different than Christianity, then they would not have tried so desperately to annihilate us and burn all of our books.

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If it can be proven to be based on lies the way Christianity can, sure, but I do not that possible or I would not have adopted the religion.


If we were no different than Christianity, then they would not have tried so desperately to annihilate us and burn all of our books.

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Who is "they", DL?
 

French Patriot

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Who is "they", DL?


Let me give you a more informative answer.

Oops. The system does not want to accept the link so please google --- The Jesus Myth - Timothy Freke ----- and you will get the detailed and informative answer.

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Let me give you a more informative answer.

Oops. The system does not want to accept the link so please google --- The Jesus Myth - Timothy Freke ----- and you will get the detailed and informative answer.

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DL

Whom do you say "they" are, DL?
 

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Whom do you say "they" are, DL?
The Roman Empire and the Catholic Church, both of whom gave you the bible in its present form. The Jesus character is a composite of many other, more ancient, characters from many older written texts, thus the "myth" part of the equation. What is important to get from the myth, is not salvation through belief and/or faith, but "to love your neighbour as yourself". If you think you are not worthy of being a child of god, that you are a sinner, then you do not love yourself and thus cannot love your neighbour. Salvation is not found in the story, but the teachings in the story. If you do not become Christ like, if you do not become what you believe, you have not learned anything.
 

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Whom do you say "they" are, DL?


My original comment was, --- "If we were no different than Christianity, then they would not have tried so desperately to annihilate us and burn all of our books."


You can either follow the usual grammatical reading and come to the right conclusion, or you can research to see who was murdering us for our believing in freedom of religion.


That link I gave showed you who that was but I guess your level of intelligence did not help you in this case.


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DL

The Roman Empire and the Catholic Church, both of whom gave you the bible in its present form. The Jesus character is a composite of many other, more ancient, characters from many older written texts, thus the "myth" part of the equation. What is important to get from the myth, is not salvation through belief and/or faith, but "to love your neighbour as yourself". If you think you are not worthy of being a child of god, that you are a sinner, then you do not love yourself and thus cannot love your neighbour. Salvation is not found in the story, but the teachings in the story. If you do not become Christ like, if you do not become what you believe, you have not learned anything.



Full points on this one buddy.


I am a WIP on this myself. As you can see above, my answer was more like tough love as compared to your more loving words.


I am trying hard and my self-chastisement is helping me to slowly not be so bad.


Thank you much for your good example.


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DL

You are so far off on that it's not even funny.



Chastisement without correction shows a dull mind who cannot show the error.


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DL
 

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My original comment was, --- "If we were no different than Christianity, then they would not have tried so desperately to annihilate us and burn all of our books."

I am interested in what constitutes the "they" you identify as "Christianity", DL.
 

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I am interested in what constitutes the "they" you identify as "Christianity", DL.



Just follow the link in post 12.


"They", basically, would be Constantine's bought and paid for Christian church.


Gnostic Christians tend to point out the corruption in both church and state and it seems that those entities back then did not mind using murder to rid themselves of dissenters or critics.


Today, church and state have about the same attitude but cannot kill to their hearts desire as they could in the past.
That situation and restriction has lead to the better laws and civilization that secular law has built in spite of homophobic and misogynous religions trying to hold back the civilizing process.


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DL
 

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Just follow the link in post 12.


"They", basically, would be Constantine's bought and paid for Christian church.


Gnostic Christians tend to point out the corruption in both church and state and it seems that those entities back then did not mind using murder to rid themselves of dissenters or critics.


Today, church and state have about the same attitude but cannot kill to their hearts desire as they could in the past.
That situation and restriction has lead to the better laws and civilization that secular law has built in spite of homophobic and misogynous religions trying to hold back the civilizing process.


Regards
DL

Your references to "Constantine's Christian church" and "Gnostic Christians" seem to imply that diverse groups of Christ-followers exist, DL.

The Biblical record indicates otherwise:

"For just as each of us has one body with many members, and these members do not all have the same function, so in Christ we, though many, form one body, and each member belongs to all the others." (Romans 12:4-5 NIV)

Just as a body, though one, has many parts, but all its many parts form one body, so it is with Christ. For we were all baptized by one Spirit so as to form one body—whether Jews or Gentiles, slave or free—and we were all given the one Spirit to drink." (1 Corinthians 12-13-13 NIV)

"There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." (Ephesians 4:4-6 NIV)

There are and have been many religious social clubs, but there is one historical, universal body of Christ.