flipping-geology-exothermic-processes

[darkbeaver]

http://malagabay.wordpress.com/2017/06/26/flipping-geology-exothermic-processes/

Flipping Geology: Exothermic Processes

Posted on June 26, 2017 by malagabay

Earth Scientists have more than a few problems Settling the Science that’s embedded in their medieval mysticism.
On the one hand:
The Geothermal Gradient defined by the Earth Scientists has recently acquired an additional 5 °C per kilometre.

In deep boreholes, the temperature of the rock below the inflection point generally increases with depth at rates of the order of 20 K/km or more
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Geothermal_gradient&oldid=221609576
Away from tectonic plate boundaries, it is about 25 °C per km of depth (1 °F per 70 feet of depth) near the surface in most of the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_gradient
In science and engineering, degrees Celsius and kelvins are often used simultaneously in the same article, where absolute temperatures are given in degrees Celsius, but temperature intervals are given in kelvins.
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°C = K − 273.15
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelvin
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On the other hand:
The Earth Scientists have lost some “other sources” that could provide the heat necessary to create their nine concentric circles of Hell within the Earth.

The Earth’s internal heat comes from a combination of residual heat from planetary accretion, heat produced through radioactive decay, and possibly heat from other sources.
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An estimated 45 to 90 percent of the heat escaping from the Earth originates from radioactive decay of elements mainly located in the mantle.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_gradient
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This loss of some “other sources” of heat is especially careless because [quite frankly] their medieval mysticism is based upon hot air rather than hard data.
Firstly, the Earth Scientists can only speculate about “residual heat from planetary accretion” by invoking medieval mysticism and [equally medieval] mathematical alchemy.
Secondly, the Earth Scientists can only speculate about “radioactive decay” in the mantle because their observational data ends at 12,262 metres i.e. 0.19% of the Earth’s radius.

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Thirdly, simply ignoring problems like deep earthquakes doesn’t make the medieval mysticism any more believable.

Earthquakes at shallow depths are a result of stick-slip faulting; however, below about 50 km (31 mi) the hot, high pressure conditions ought to inhibit further seismicity.
The mantle is considered to be viscous and incapable of brittle faulting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantle_(geology)

IRIS Earthquake Browser

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Fourthly, simply dropping problems down the memory hole doesn’t make the medieval mysticism any more plausible.

Halema’uma’u (Hawaii), the most famous among the long-living lakes of molten lava on Earth, was boiling in the crater of Kilauea from 1823 to 1924, finally disappearing during the Kilauea eruption.
Its level fluctuated up and down, the boiling was sometimes more, sometimes less intensive; many people came to see this fire lake, even from Europe.
Jaggar and his co-workers measured the temperature of the lava lake surface (roughly 1140 °C), and its depth, from 131 m to zero, when the lake was practically dry.
No conduits, connecting the lava lake with the mantle were found, only fractures, but somehow it received its energy from the mantle.
Primordial Hydrogen-Helium Degassing, An Overlooked Major Energy Source
Arie Gilat and Alexander Vol
HAIT Journal of Science and Engineering B – Volume 2 – Issues 1-2 – 2005
http://www.magniel.com/jse/B/vol0201B/vg040720.pdf
Halemaʻumaʻu Crater is a pit crater located within the much larger summit caldera of Kīlauea in Hawaii Volcanoes National Park.
The roughly circular crater floor is 770 meters (2,530 ft) x 900 m (2,950 ft) and is 83 m (270 ft) below the floor of Kīlauea caldera.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halemaumau_Crater

The same enigma was encountered by Tazieff, when the Nyiragongo Volcano in Zair, Africa, emptied in 1977 the bowl of its crater simultaneously with a small earthquake, flooding during 25 minutes 2,000 hectares with 1,100 °C hot basanite-lava pouring forth through fractures that suddenly opened in the lava lake.
There were no fumaroles inside the crater, and no vertical conduit with convecting liquid magma in the empty crater, and not even a large but empty one.
Primordial Hydrogen-Helium Degassing, An Overlooked Major Energy Source
Arie Gilat and Alexander Vol
HAIT Journal of Science and Engineering B – Volume 2 – Issues 1-2 – 2005
http://www.magniel.com/jse/B/vol0201B/vg040720.pdf
Mount Nyiragongo is an active stratovolcano with an elevation of 3,470 metres (11,380 ft) in the Virunga Mountains associated with the Albertine Rift.
It is located inside Virunga National Park, in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, about 20 km (12 mi) north of the town of Goma and Lake Kivu and just west of the border with Rwanda.
The main crater is about two kilometres wide and usually contains a lava lake.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Nyiragongo
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Given these problems it’s unsurprising some scientists suspect exothermic reactions are involved.

In thermodynamics, the term exothermic process describes a process or reaction that releases energy from the system to its surroundings, usually in the form of heat, but also in a form of light (e.g. a spark, flame, or flash), electricity (e.g. a battery), or sound (e.g. explosion heard when burning hydrogen).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exothermic
The “Barking Dog” is an exothermic chemical reaction that results from the ignition of a mixture of carbon disulfide and nitrous oxide.
It has been known for centuries; in 1853, Justus von Liebig was using the bright blue flash and the distinctive ‘woof’ sound of the demonstration to enthrall his students.
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From Image Description
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This is a reaction between carbon disulfide and nitrous oxide.
The equation for this reaction is: carbon disulfide reacts with nitric oxide, which releases carbon dioxide, nitrogen and sulfur, which is then deposited on the walls of the cylinder and which is very inconvenient to wash off.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barking_dog_reaction
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For example:
Vladimir Larin [1993] introduced a “whole spectrum of notions as to possible energy sources for magma generation” based upon exothermic processes within the Earth.

This prospect, which follows from our geochemical model of the Earth, opens a whole spectrum of notions as to possible energy sources for magma generation.
Simple calculations show that if silane is injected into the silicate-oxidic shell, the energy of attraction in the Si-O bond represents an exothermic heat capacity sufficient to melt a mass of rock exceeding by perhaps forty times the total mass of the invading silanes.
Hydridic Earth: The New Geology of Our Primordially Hydrogen-Rich Planet
Vladimir N. Larin – Editor on translation: C. Warren Hunt – 1993
The book Hydridic Earth from Polar Publishing
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And in 2005 Gilat and Vol focussed upon the “intense energy release” of “H- and He-compounds” as they trickle up from the core and bore through a “solid mantle”.

The currently accepted theories concerning terrestrial processes are lacking in accounting for a source of internal energy which:
(a) are quickly focused, e.g. earthquakes and volcanic eruptions;
(b) are of very high density; (c) provide very high velocities of energy release;
(d) have very high density of the energy transport and relatively small losses during transportation over long distances;
(e) are quasi-constantly released and practicallylimitless.
This energy release is always accompanied by H- and He-degassing.
Solid solutions of H and He, and compounds of He with H, O, Si and metals were discovered in laboratory experiments of ultra-high PT-conditions; He-S, He-Cl, He-C, He-N structures can be deduced from their atomic structure and compositions of natural He-reach gases.
Ultra-high PT-conditions exist in the Earth’s interior; hence it seems most likely that some “exotic” compounds are present in the Earth’s core and mantle.
During Earth’s accretion, primordial hydrogen and helium were trapped and stored in the planet interior as H- and He- solutions and compounds, stable only under ultra high PT-conditions that were discovered in recent experiments.
These are described step by step (for each PT-conditions):
H- and He-trickling from the solid; convecting in the liquid core;
flux-melting the solid mantle and generating gas-liquid (pyromagma) scavenging plums.
H- and He-release from core solutions and incorporating in H-He and other chemical compounds and following gradual decomposition due to decompression are accompanied by intense energy release.
The practically infinite energy source for earth-quakes will be the explosive chain reaction of the H- and He-compounds decomposition, triggered by decompression within the fault zone.
On-going decompression within an upward moving hypocenter accompanied by additional release of energy will cause
(a) decomposition of H- and He-compounds;
(b) release of elemental H, O, C, N, Cl, F, Si, metals, etc., and
(c) new detonation-induced synthesis of H2O, SO2, H2SO4, CO2, H2S, HCL, HF and other compounds.
Thus the manifestations of volcanic eruptions are produced by ascending pyromagma, which melts the surrounding rocks and bores through them under the pressure and heat of continuous explosions (volcanic earthquakes).
3He serves as a unique measuring transformer correlative to the internal heat flow.
Measurements and calculations lead to the conclusion that up to half of the present rate of heat flow from the Earth’s surface is contributed by the above listed chain of H and He-related reactions.
This is amount of energy five times greater than the energy loss involved in earthquake and volcanic activity.
Primordial Hydrogen-Helium Degassing, An Overlooked Major Energy Source
Arie Gilat and Alexander Vol
HAIT Journal of Science and Engineering B – Volume 2 – Issues 1-2 – 2005
http://www.magniel.com/jse/B/vol0201B/vg040720.pdf
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The fascinating aspect of Gilat and Vol is that their degassing Earth [with a solid mantle] provides an holistic driving mechanism for localised earthquakes, volcanic activity and rifting.

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Their holistic approach can even explain the geological activity associated with sutured terranes [and an Inflating Earth].
In structural geology, a suture is a joining together along a major fault zone, of separate terranes, tectonic units that have different plate tectonic, metamo

 

[taxslave]

The real source of globull warming. Nothing to do with CO2 emmissions.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Exactly what is this supposed to explain? If it is an excuse for global warming then it is the usual pseudo-science BS promulgated by big oil to confuse the issue. Given the fact that the Earth's interior has always been hot what evidence is there that is is actually getting hotter? Are there more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions? Actually no; at least not if you don't use apologists from oil companies as your source of information. And in any case, an increase in volcanoes and earthquakes would make no sense given the fact that geologic history shows a decline in both over geologic time.

 

[petros]

Good Lord.

Oil companies....:roll:

 

[Danbones]

Exactly what is this supposed to explain? If it is an excuse for global warming then it is the usual pseudo-science BS promulgated by big oil to confuse the issue. Given the fact that the Earth's interior has always been hot what evidence is there that is is actually getting hotter? Are there more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions? Actually no; at least not if you don't use apologists from oil companies as your source of information. And in any case, an increase in volcanoes and earthquakes would make no sense given the fact that geologic history shows a decline in both over geologic time.

There are about 1,500 potentially active volcanoes worldwide, aside from the continuous belt of volcanoes on the ocean floor. About 500 of these have erupted in historical time. Many of these are located along the Pacific Rim in what is known as the 'Ring of Fire.' In the U.S., volcanoes in the Cascade Range and Alaska (Aleutian volcanic chain) are part of the Ring, while Hawaiian volcanoes form over a 'hot spot' near the center of the Ring.
https://www2.usgs.gov/faq/categories/9819/2689

we have discovered more volcanoes (up to 3.4 million) on the seafloor.
On Deep Sea Volcanoes and Ocean Warming: Reprint | Volcano World | Oregon State University


WASHINGTON, D.C. – The intensity of volcanic activity at deeply submerged mid-ocean ridges waxes and wanes on a roughly 100,000-year cycle, according to a new study that might help explain poorly understood variations in Earth’s climate that occur on approximately the same timetable.

Cyclical variations in Earth’s tilt and orbit–occurring at 23,000-, 41,000- and 100,000-year intervals–are known to strongly influence our planet’s long-term climate. They are associated with the coming and going of ice ages that also takes place about every 100,000 years.

In particular, changes in the roundness of Earth’s orbit around the Sun unfold on approximately the same 100,000 year cycle as the planet’s global swings between icy and temperate conditions. But, the variation in solar radiation reaching Earth due to temporarily larger and smaller distances between our planet and the Sun can’t fully explain the magnitude of the climatic shift
https://news.agu.org/press-release/unseen-volcanoes-may-play-role-in-earths-long-term-climate/

Bar doesn't do science very well...or math...or even history - liebarrel arts educations eh?

 

[darkbeaver]

Exactly what is this supposed to explain? If it is an excuse for global warming then it is the usual pseudo-science BS promulgated by big oil to confuse the issue. Given the fact that the Earth's interior has always been hot what evidence is there that is is actually getting hotter? Are there more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions? Actually no; at least not if you don't use apologists from oil companies as your source of information. And in any case, an increase in volcanoes and earthquakes would make no sense given the fact that geologic history shows a decline in both over geologic time.

"Confused Issue" is archaic medical terminology that correctly discribes you. Each and every post you deliver indicate that you are a low magnitude turd eating mutt. Get off the page if you can't contribute something, I'm not interested in your opinion, your mother should have stuffed your mouth with that bar of soap and thrown you out with the bath water when the thought first crossed what was left of her gin riddled mind.

 

[TenPenny]

Exactly what is this supposed to explain? If it is an excuse for global warming then it is the usual pseudo-science BS promulgated by big oil to confuse the issue. Given the fact that the Earth's interior has always been hot what evidence is there that is is actually getting hotter? Are there more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions? Actually no; at least not if you don't use apologists from oil companies as your source of information. And in any case, an increase in volcanoes and earthquakes would make no sense given the fact that geologic history shows a decline in both over geologic time.

Oil companies pay for most geologic research these days, and have done for decades.

 

[captain morgan]

Oil companies pay for most geologic research these days, and have done for decades.

Geological Survey of Canada | Natural Resources Canada

USGS.gov | Science for a changing world

 

[TenPenny]

And your point is?

 

[captain morgan]

Ummmm, that the core research done on a macro scale is done by gvt?

... Are you really that stupid?

 

[petros]

CGS USGS compile data sourced from mining first, oil second.

They basically tag along.

A great example is when Franklin's ship was found by hanging out on a Shell research vessel.

The article Beaver posted is saying there is potentially H and He found as solids under high pressure and temperature (PT).

Accessing these potential sources of energy will require drilling systems that won't turn to butter at depth.

 

[TenPenny]

Ummmm, that the core research done on a macro scale is done by gvt?

... Are you really that stupid?

If that was your point, why didn't you say that? Instead, you just post a link. You really are that stupid, I take it.


You're missing the whole point, of course, about funding.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Cap ain't stupid. He just pretends to be.

 

[Bar Sinister]

There are about 1,500 potentially active volcanoes worldwide, aside from the continuous belt of volcanoes on the ocean floor. About 500 of these have erupted in historical time. Many of these are located along the Pacific Rim in what is known as the 'Ring of Fire.' In the U.S., volcanoes in the Cascade Range and Alaska (Aleutian volcanic chain) are part of the Ring, while Hawaiian volcanoes form over a 'hot spot' near the center of the Ring.
https://www2.usgs.gov/faq/categories/9819/2689

we have discovered more volcanoes (up to 3.4 million) on the seafloor.
On Deep Sea Volcanoes and Ocean Warming: Reprint | Volcano World | Oregon State University


WASHINGTON, D.C. – The intensity of volcanic activity at deeply submerged mid-ocean ridges waxes and wanes on a roughly 100,000-year cycle, according to a new study that might help explain poorly understood variations in Earth’s climate that occur on approximately the same timetable.

Cyclical variations in Earth’s tilt and orbit–occurring at 23,000-, 41,000- and 100,000-year intervals–are known to strongly influence our planet’s long-term climate. They are associated with the coming and going of ice ages that also takes place about every 100,000 years.

In particular, changes in the roundness of Earth’s orbit around the Sun unfold on approximately the same 100,000 year cycle as the planet’s global swings between icy and temperate conditions. But, the variation in solar radiation reaching Earth due to temporarily larger and smaller distances between our planet and the Sun can’t fully explain the magnitude of the climatic shift
https://news.agu.org/press-release/unseen-volcanoes-may-play-role-in-earths-long-term-climate/

Bar doesn't do science very well...or math...or even history - liebarrel arts educations eh?

Are there more volcanoes now or less? Geologic evidence indicates less. Unless you can prove otherwise your "science" is oil company bunk. And thanks for proving that you have no real argument by adding an insult at the end. Real facts stand on their own, but you don't have any. And as I keep on pointing out - it doesn't matter. Despite your defence of big oil and the coal industry this tech is on its way out.

"Confused Issue" is archaic medical terminology that correctly discribes you. Each and every post you deliver indicate that you are a low magnitude turd eating mutt. Get off the page if you can't contribute something, I'm not interested in your opinion, your mother should have stuffed your mouth with that bar of soap and thrown you out with the bath water when the thought first crossed what was left of her gin riddled mind.

Thanks for the insults. They proves that you have nothing of any real intelligence to post, but nothing new there is there?

 

[captain morgan]

CGS USGS compile data sourced from mining first, oil second.

They basically tag along.

A great example is when Franklin's ship was found by hanging out on a Shell research vessel.

The article Beaver posted is saying there is potentially H and He found as solids under high pressure and temperature (PT).

Accessing these potential sources of energy will require drilling systems that won't turn to butter at depth.

E&P and mining companies seek detailed info on the geologic strata that they wish to exploit, that said, they do execute on the research but on more specific zones.

Those core samples (often) end up in the provincial equivalents of the NRC at which time the gubmint executes on a program that is far more thorough, analyzing multiple strata and zones

 

[Danbones]

Are there more volcanoes now or less? Geologic evidence indicates less. Unless you can prove otherwise your "science" is oil company bunk. And thanks for proving that you have no real argument by adding an insult at the end. Real facts stand on their own, but you don't have any. And as I keep on pointing out - it doesn't matter. Despite your defence of big oil and the coal industry this tech is on its way out.



Thanks for the insults. They proves that you have nothing of any real intelligence to post, but nothing new there is there?

You really don't do science very well or math as I said.
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"cyclic"

 

[darkbeaver]

Are there more volcanoes now or less? Geologic evidence indicates less. Unless you can prove otherwise your "science" is oil company bunk. And thanks for proving that you have no real argument by adding an insult at the end. Real facts stand on their own, but you don't have any. And as I keep on pointing out - it doesn't matter. Despite your defence of big oil and the coal industry this tech is on its way out.

Thanks for the insults. They proves that you have nothing of any real intelligence to post, but nothing new there is there?

The article is correct, I think that you did not bother to read much if any of it as you missed, I think, the origins of water and oil bit at the end. Need I remind you that your insults preceeded mine which was laced with humour but you have no sence of that either.

Of course your mother was a fine responsible woman and would not have thrown the soap out.

 

[Bar Sinister]

You really don't do science very well or math as I said.
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Didn't answer the question did you? Nothing new there.

The article is correct, I think that you did not bother to read much if any of it as you missed, I think, the origins of water and oil bit at the end. Need I remind you that your insults preceeded mine which was laced with humour but you have no sence of that either.

Of course your mother was a fine responsible woman and would not have thrown the soap out.

Apperntly you think daring to contradict you is an insult. Well, you better get used to it considering the accuracy of your posts. I note you have made no attempt to reply to any of the points I made. The article is pseudoscience. If it isn't then explain how a cooling body like the Earth can suddenly start heating up?

 

[darkbeaver]

Didn't answer the question did you? Nothing new there.




Apperntly you think daring to contradict you is an insult. Well, you better get used to it considering the accuracy of your posts. I note you have made no attempt to reply to any of the points I made. The article is pseudoscience. If it isn't then explain how a cooling body like the Earth can suddenly start heating up?

To begin then, I will assume that you do believe the sciece behind your common kitchen refridgerator and how it's hot external compresser cools the atmosphere within. You may insult or dare to as much as it pleases you, I enjoy your engagement just the same. And yes that was certainly not a full answer but only serves to point out to you that any contratiction in the original post is apparent only.

supliment a: You may have noticed an electrical connection between your refrgeration unit and the AC supply fixture directly behind your unit. Follow it to the fuller explaination if you like.

 

[Bar Sinister]

To begin then, I will assume that you do believe the sciece behind your common kitchen refridgerator and how it's hot external compresser cools the atmosphere within. You may insult or dare to as much as it pleases you, I enjoy your engagement just the same. And yes that was certainly not a full answer but only serves to point out to you that any contratiction in the original post is apparent only.

supliment a: You may have noticed an electrical connection between your refrgeration unit and the AC supply fixture directly behind your unit. Follow it to the fuller explaination if you like.

Oh now I understand. The Earth's works like a giant refrigerator. Could you please explain where it is plugged in?