Illinois Insolvent Due to Pensions

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No, that is what happens when right wing politicians don't fund pensions properly. We had the same problem in Alberta with pensions until the unions took control of their pension plans away from the government.

That's why the rock&Tunnel workers pension plan turned out so good. NOT.

The Ontario Teachers pension fund is huge. It is an investment capital collosus that owns big chunks of some really big corporations.

http://www.otpp.com/investments/performance/major-investments

They also don't mind taking away other union workers jobs in pursuit of profits.
 

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Hey, they're not relying on tax revenues to finance their retirements.

In Illinois, the subject of the thread, they are.
Obligations 35 Billion...Income 32 Billion
https://www.wbez.org/shows/curious-...o-anyway/3197f0ba-ce77-44c6-9180-04088ccc8f76


The Chicago Public School system is in shambles, worsened by a combination of recent events. First is that CPS has received several credit downgrades, attaining that all-too-familiar Chicago characteristic: 'junk bond' status.

Second is that CPS is dealing with a $480 million budget shortfall that it wants the also-broke Illinois state government to cover.

Third is that Chicago's school system, already facing academic failure, may cut staff and close facilities. And compounding all this is that CPS must deal with a Chicago Teachers Union (CTU) who, oblivious to reality, keeps demanding more for itself.

This latter conflict is part of an ongoing battle between Chicago's public school management and labor to agree on pay. Currently, the median annual salary for Chicago teachers is $76,000, or $14,000 more than average city residents with a graduate or professional degree.

There are also generous retirement benefits; for example, teachers who retired after 2011 receive $77,000 annual pensions.

Meanwhile, they work in a school system with low graduation rates, short school days, declining enrollment, and vast structural debt, including a pension system that's only 51.9% funded.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottb...achers-union-demands-pay-raises/#570fa627507e

To quote myself from an earlier post:
..and all because of a bunch of lazy, greedy, unionized, bureaucrap spell NAZIs
 
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Curious Cdn

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Looks like the only solution is a massive cull of parasites.

It's gonna be a lonely planet.

I know, how about launching all of the marketing managers and telephone sanitisers into space, on an ark, to pave the way for the rest of humanity's migration.
 

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Well thats what happens when you let the leftii unions run stuff.

"Effective immediately, 100 percent of the Illinois state budget must be allocated to pay pensions, leaving not a single dollar for schools, public safety services, road construction and maintenance — or anything else that is not a pension. Glenn warned of this very thing beginning in 2008. On this installment of Think Tank, Glenn and the crew take a look at the mind-boggling, utter incompetence and government overreach that caused this outrageous problem. Is there any chance Illinois can recover?"
GB Prediction Come True: Illinois Insolvent Due to Pensions – Glenn Beck

"Here's what you probably don't know about Illinois pensions

Illinois' budget mess is the stepchild of Illinois' pension mess, and for that perhaps nothing incites more steam-coming-out-of-the-ears fury from critics than the volume of six figure annual retirement payouts—topped by one at $581,000—pledged to former public workers."
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/arti...ou-probably-dont-know-about-illinois-pensions

It's these greedy public purse rapers who never did their jobs well in the first place that need some talking too.

This crisis will slowly spread to other states, and countries, and provinces, as things turn belly up in the rest of the country, the continent, and the in world's financial system.

They say the US is headed down the same road as other Banker victims like Argentina and Venezuela, and is the result of LEFTIST/rightist destroy and rape policies.
(though the right tends to use foreign war, the left tends to steal at home generally, but really though, they are globalists altogether under the Heading of that same old same old left right Hegelian dialectic)

The globalist banker will try to blame Trump of course but obviously this is a mess he inherited from previous globalist run fake news governments who have been running washingmachingington since the coup they committed on JFK.


This story is very difficult to believe. Their financial debacle certainly just didn't happen in one day. I would guess it happened over several decades if not an entire generation. I would like to know how much involvement bureaucrats had to do with it. I just find the whole thing next to impossible to believe.

Looks like the only solution is a massive cull of parasites.


Might be the entire population!
 

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This story is very difficult to believe. Their financial debacle certainly just didn't happen in one day. I would guess it happened over several decades if not an entire generation. I would like to know how much involvement bureaucrats had to do with it. I just find the whole thing next to impossible to believe.

It is quite easy to believe when politics takes priority over policies.
 

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Hey, they're not relying on tax revenues to finance their retirements.
Actually, we are. The gubmint matched my pension contributions when I was a teacher and the gubmint matches the contributions of all teachers today who are part of the OTPP.
 

Curious Cdn

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Actually, we are. The gubmint matched my pension contributions when I was a teacher and the gubmint matches the contributions of all teachers today who are part of the OTPP.

Every employer, public or private does that. The difference is that their pension paynent shortfalls aren't being made up by tax money.
 

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Pensions is just an excuse. Most of the monetary problems stem from bad management and bad business practices. Illinois pays $24,000. for a Ford Focus. The rest of us go to a Ford dealer and buy one at a "No Haggle" price of $22,869. and that is a fact.
 

JLM

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Pensions is just an excuse. Most of the monetary problems stem from bad management and bad business practices. Illinois pays $24,000. for a Ford Focus. The rest of us go to a Ford dealer and buy one at a "No Haggle" price of $22,869. and that is a fact.


It's probably got a lot to do with their weak dollar!

Actually, we are. The gubmint matched my pension contributions when I was a teacher and the gubmint matches the contributions of all teachers today who are part of the OTPP.


That's pretty much standard everywhere methinks. What the bastards don't tell you is they are mostly matching it with the interest they gleaned off your contributions for 35 years! Anyway they aren't fooling everybody. :) :) :)