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[Hoof Hearted]

I always tell my little daughters, it's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. They think this is funny. My girls have crushes on boys in their class. If they preferred girls, I'd accept that and go along with it. I'm not a fussy fusspot when it comes to this stuff.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I knew this one was going to come up. And guess what, I'm not "proud" to be Canadian. Why should I be? It's not like I accomplished anything to be one, it was an accident of birth and nothing more. To be honest, it carries a lot more weight to me when someone who emigrated to Canada tells me they're proud to be Canadian than when some White bread who was born here says it.
I have often said though that I'm lucky to be Canadian, although not nearly as frequently since Nov 2015 :lol:
That however doesn't automatically preclude that I'm not proud of Canada as a nation and its accomplishments.

Being proud of your ethnicity, nationality of birth, gender/gender identity, skin colour or whatever is silly if that's your primary reason for being proud of yourself. It's like being proud you won the lottery. Actually, if you won the lottery you'd have more reason to be proud simply because you did something, like buy a ticket. Being born whatever you are has nothing to with anything you did. The whole concept of group pride is just more politics of division.
Let's use yourself as an example. You're Native American and you are/were a lawyer as you claim. Which of those two things is actually an accomplishment deserving of personal pride?
I'm a hetero, White, Canadian male. For some, that's equivalent to winning the human lottery and their primary source of pride. For me it's four coincidences of good fortune that I had nothing to do with. The four combined certainly don't give me the sort of pride I have from earning my CPL and doing something positive with it besides lining my pockets.

If we spent more time reflecting on who we are instead of what we are, there'd be less need to "fix" society.

I actually agree with you. I was just testing for hypocrisy.

You passed.

 

[Jinentonix]

What's the difference between who we are and what we are?

Who you are is defined more by what you do and is essentially based on your personal actions, achievements and/or accomplishments, or lack thereof . What you are is defined more by which group(s) you identify with as your primary source of pride, be they racial/ethnic, social, employment-based, gender-based, etc.

Basically, who you are is very individual. What you are is very group think.

I actually agree with you. I was just testing for hypocrisy.

You passed.

Hell, I don't even celebrate birthdays. A) Being born was your mother's accomplishment, not yours.
B) "Surviving" another year in a first world country isn't really that much of an accomplishment unless you're a moron with no impulse control or risk assessment skills.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Corduroy,

I believe taxpayer-funded Pride parades is preferential treatment.

And the Rainbow is for everyone...children and adults of all shapes and colours...NOT exclusively for the LBGTQ community.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Who you are is defined more by what you do and is essentially based on your personal actions, achievements and/or accomplishments, or lack thereof . What you are is defined more by which group(s) you identify with as your primary source of pride, be they racial/ethnic, social, employment-based, gender-based, etc.

Basically, who you are is very individual. What you are is very group think.


Hell, I don't even celebrate birthdays. A) Being born was your mother's accomplishment, not yours.
B) "Surviving" another year in a first world country isn't really that much of an accomplishment unless you're a moron with no impulse control or risk assessment skills.

Yep. I value my ancestry, I support and sympathize with my people. But I take pride in my military service, my education, and my achievements.

 

[Corduroy]

Who you are is defined more by what you do and is essentially based on your personal actions, achievements and/or accomplishments, or lack thereof . What you are is defined more by which group(s) you identify with as your primary source of pride, be they racial/ethnic, social, employment-based, gender-based, etc.

Basically, who you are is very individual. What you are is very group think.

Sounds like you just made that up. You defined "what you are" as an action: "which group you identify with". But you defined "who you are" as what you do, i.e. actions. So if "what you do" is identify yourself, then the "who you are" and the "what you are" are the same.The whole thing is contradictory and arbitrary. Arbitrary to suit your needless distinction between who and what.

But amazingly you did manage to explain the purpose of Pride. The first Pride started as a riot and protest against oppression. It's been more accepted, but as so many around here will demonstrate, there is still oppression and hate. Pride is an achievement. Coming out in a society that hates you, wants you shut out or murdered, is an achievement. Pride is a celebration of that achievement and a continued defiance in the face of oppression. LGBTQ people are proud of who are they are in opposition to the shame the hatefilled try to impose on them.

 

[White_Unifier]

I'd take 'who' to be identifying, something that distinguishes me from everyone else. I'd take what in physical terms. I'm human, homo sapiens.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

And how come in Porn, lesbians are always BOTH hotties, but in real life one is always okay looking while the other one usually looks like Bruno Gerussi.

 

[darkbeaver]

You totally don't get Pride, do you?

I do get pride, it is part of the disinformation programe infecting the west to fracture social and cultural order. It has no other function but to divide radicalize and break the populace thus preparing them for big brothers total benevolent rule. Confusion is harmony, perversion is wholesome. Satanic vaccination of the proles, preparation for the forthcoming hightest order out of regular order it is hoped by Pope Debt the 22nd.

 

[Danbones]

And how come in Porn, lesbians are always BOTH hotties, but in real life one is always okay looking while the other one usually looks like Bruno Gerussi.

Well, being the film biz in Canada back then was pretty liberal, that would explain Bruno's constant use of the theatrical mustache

 

[Corduroy]

I'd take 'who' to be identifying, something that distinguishes me from everyone else. I'd take what in physical terms. I'm human, homo sapiens.

If someone asked you "who are you?" or "what are you?" how would you respond? Usually it's contextual. The distinction is useless the way it's being used in this thread.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

...and you never addressed my reply to you, Corduroy.

 

[Corduroy]

...and you never addressed my reply to you, Corduroy.

Sorry, I missed it.

Corduroy,

I believe taxpayer-funded Pride parades is preferential treatment.

In preference over what?

And the Rainbow is for everyone...children and adults of all shapes and colours...NOT exclusively for the LBGTQ community.

Nobody says it isn't.


There's your reply! ;-)

 

[petros]

Damn those Hutties and Mennonites.

 

[Hoof Hearted]

Arguing with Corduroy is a bit like tossing a boomerang off of a cliff.

You dust off your hands and walk back home believing it's all over, but the damn thing follows you right into your kitchen and whacks you on the back of the head!

 

[Corduroy]

Um OK?

 

[petros]

On Sunday do you go back to being ashamed?

 

[Corduroy]

Arguing with Corduroy is a bit like tossing a boomerang off of a cliff.

You dust off your hands and walk back home believing it's all over, but the damn thing follows you right into your kitchen and whacks you on the back of the head!

That's your fault for throwing a boomerang off a cliff and not expecting it to come back. You should start throwing turds instead. I ignore the turds.