Atheists tend to be more intelligent than religious people

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No, the I don't know crowd would be more agnostic than atheistic.

Religious people: God is real!

Atheists: There is no god!

Agnostics: There is no proof of either his existence or lack of it.

If you ask me, it's the agnostics who are likely the more intelligent as a group.
Nope. When there is no proof something exists, logically one must presume it does not. Otherwise every fantastical brain turd has equal truth value. Will you give equal credit to the God of Moses and the invisible blue flying hippopotamus wearing a baseball cap who comes to my house at night and gives me wise advice? The evidence for both is equal.
 

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There is no proof that life exists somewhere else in the universe, so in your opinion we shouldn't try to develop space travel...
And if the people that sailed from Europe with no proof that the Americas existed, you would still be hunting with bow and arrow, and I would never have existed to nag you...:lol:
 

MHz

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So, by JLM's reasoning, you're not that bright.
I'm not, but doing a bit of study on a subject tends to change that. So far 'a bit' has covered 3 decades and I would actually consider myself 'above expert' if the RCC Clergy and the like are the experts.

Both of you would actually have to quiz me on why I can reply to the reasons you are not a believer as I should have already asked myself those same question. So far it seems that false believers and atheists don't like reasonable replies about the Bible. For instance there is no 'proof'. Nor should there be during the time of the Gentiles (Luke:21:24) as the book is the only gathering tool God left us. That being said the megaliths on the planet support a past that current 'experts' can't explain.

Most of the time trolls are the only replies get, show me you are a thinking human and explain to me how cave dwellers could produce the delicate statues or the incredibly beautiful engraving on ancient suits of armor??

[youtube]1V-qjxvgo9A[/youtube]

The first 5 minutes should grab your attention, if not then it's not a serious subject that tickles you brain to reason it out. So far the Bible is the one that has the best answer and Jude:1 is the best primer there is in who made all the megaliths.
 

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from GK Chesterton.

"When men choose not to believe in God, they do not thereafter believe in nothing, they then become capable of believing in anything."

some 'intelligence'.. what good is it. It's the type of intellect that is leading the West to ruin.
 

MHz

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Take your pills dude.....You're more obsessed with religion than any Bible thumper or atheist!!
The post was about the megaliths and here come the troll right on que.

He is a bible thumper.
One that doesn't seem to get much of a challenge around here about my version of what the various passages mean. That doesn't mean I was a blind follower, it means the book is very convincing.
 

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Why Are Atheists Generally Smarter Than Religious People?

For more than a millennium, scholars have noticed a curious correlation: Atheists tend to be more intelligent than religious people.
It's unclear why this trend persists, but researchers of a new study have an idea: Religion is an instinct, they say, and people who can rise above instincts are more intelligent than those who rely on them.
"Intelligence — in rationally solving problems — can be understood as involving overcoming instinct and being intellectually curious and thus open to non-instinctive possibilities," study lead author Edward Dutton, a research fellow at the Ulster Institute for Social Research in the United Kingdom, said in a statement.

www.livescience.com/59361-why-are-a...cience+Headline+Feed)&utm_content=buffer99bfa

"I think it's misleading to use the term 'religion' as a slur for whatever you don't like,' Cofnas said."
https://www.livescience.com/59361-w...cience+Headline+Feed)&utm_content=buffer99bfa
 

DaSleeper

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The post was about the megaliths and here come the troll right on que.


One that doesn't seem to get much of a challenge around here about my version of what the various passages mean. That doesn't mean I was a blind follower, it means the book is very convincing.

You and Selfshame are the reason people are tire of hearing about religion in this forum....both of you go find a religion forum an proselytize to your heart's content....

Selfshame seems to have given up but you seem to be more of a fanatic besides being a tinfoiler.......
 

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You and Selfshame are the reason people are tire of hearing about religion in this forum....both of you go find a religion forum an proselytize to your heart's content....

Selfshame seems to have given up but you seem to be more of a fanatic besides being a tinfoiler.......
This site was fully anti-christian before I ever made my first post. The main accused was Dex and even he admits my version has more merit than the other ones. Don't take that as an endorsement by him that the Christian religion has it's merits.
You even have to become a liar to try and score a valid point. Your attempt at deception will be noticed by others and your rep suffers rather than it being mine. At least all my posts are honest and involve a bit of leg-work, yours have neither and you attempt to be judged intelligent when your only comeback is a bit of troll methods that are really quite apparent for what they really are.
 

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The post was about the megaliths and here come the troll right on que.


One that doesn't seem to get much of a challenge around here about my version of what the various passages mean. That doesn't mean I was a blind follower, it means the book is very convincing.
Nobody reads them NOBODY!
 

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Nope. When there is no proof something exists, logically one must presume it does not. Otherwise every fantastical brain turd has equal truth value. Will you give equal credit to the God of Moses and the invisible blue flying hippopotamus wearing a baseball cap who comes to my house at night and gives me wise advice? The evidence for both is equal.


Try selling that to some poor bugger, who a week before he dies he finds out he's dying of terminal brain cancer! :)
 

MHz

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Nobody reads them NOBODY!
It's a video you stupid person. So you not watching the whole series of almost 50 vids gives you more knowledge than [people who have watched this on or many of them?? The bad news is there is no pill that can cure that form of blindness.

That should be 'very stupid person'. See I make mistakes, but then I go and correct them. You have so far presented zero vids/articles that show your source is more than you addled brain while in the Sherlock mode. Addict without the smarts is more like it.
 

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Quoting the book to prove its validity isn't evidence of anything. Where is the physical and historical evidence? So far I have only found very little circumstantial evidence that isn't convincing at all. Most evidence points to the book being plagiarized from more ancient texts or pure fabrication. Those accepting the bible's validity based on faith do not understand its history, the where, when, whys & who's of its origins. If you don't know these things then your faith is nothing more than wishful thinking. Quoting scripture to counter that argument is just plain ignorant. The book has been subject to thousands of years of human corruption.
 

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There is no proof that life exists somewhere else in the universe, so in your opinion we shouldn't try to develop space travel...
And if the people that sailed from Europe with no proof that the Americas existed, you would still be hunting with bow and arrow, and I would never have existed to nag you...:lol:
Except they were looking for another route to Asia, not the Americas.
 

petros

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Quoting the book to prove its validity isn't evidence of anything. Where is the physical and historical evidence? So far I have only found very little circumstantial evidence that isn't convincing at all. Most evidence points to the book being plagiarized from more ancient texts or pure fabrication. Those accepting the bible's validity based on faith do not understand its history, the where, when, whys & who's of its origins. If you don't know these things then your faith is nothing more than wishful thinking. Quoting scripture to counter that argument is just plain ignorant. The book has been subject to thousands of years of human corruption.

And your youtube quotes are definitive?
 

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I would say they are about tied for intellect and probably not much above 100 I.Q., like most people who think they know it all. The few smart people who are religious have enough brains to keep it to themselves & don't bother anybody. Whenever you do get involved with religious nuts, sooner or later you find out they want some money for something. Then you've seen their true colours. I never heard of Jesus asking anyone for money!
 

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Nope. When there is no proof something exists, logically one must presume it does not. Otherwise every fantastical brain turd has equal truth value.
Only if society and/or govt give it said value. To logically presume something doesn't exist because you haven't yet discovered any proof might work in the courtroom, but that doesn't work in science or philosophy.
Maybe "god" isn't what mankind has made him/her/it out to be. We could simply be an experiment and "god" is just the scientist who's set it up and is observing it. He doesn't take attendance at church, he's not keeping a naughty list like Santa.
I mean let's assume that there has to be other life out there in the cosmos. If there is, it seems kind of unlikely that "god's" sole priority is us.