The Americans spend $600 billion a year on their military because, presumably, they believe that it is in their interest to do so. NATO is a separate issue. The alliance is a mutual defence pact, not a machine for world conquest or control. It was never meant to be thus. NATO members should be spending more (certainly we should) because there is a growing probability that we will have to defend ourselves in an increasingly unstable world. One of the sources of that instability is an increasingly unstable United States of America.
NATO warned to start paying its bills
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The Americans spend $600 billion a year on their military because, presumably, they believe that it is in their interest to do so. NATO is a separate issue. The alliance is a mutual defence pact, not a machine for world conquest or control. It was never meant to be thus. NATO members should be spending more (certainly we should) because there is a growing probability that we will have to defend ourselves in an increasingly unstable world. One of the sources of that instability is an increasingly unstable United States of America.
Video Shows Trump Listening to G7 Speech, Can You Spot The HUGE Problem?
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Donald Trump Caught Pretending to Listen Without Headphones at G7 Summit 2017 Italy. Looks more like he is asleep
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Donald Trump Caught Pretending to Listen Without Headphones at G7 Summit 2017 Italy. Looks more like he is asleep
I doubt that he would understand what is being said even if he was listening. Apparently his attention span is five minute at best.
The only current threats that NATO members face come from terrorists, not other nations. As a result there might be a need for NATO to change the way it spends money, but an increase is certainly not merited.
That is not correct. Our new Baltics allies are directly threatened by the Russians, who badly want their empire back. During the Soviet Union era, countries like Latvia were intentionally colonised by ethnic Russians who's presence is significant enough that they form the majority in lots of parts of the Baltics. They are a possible motivation for the Russians to re-take the place. That reason is precisely why they just bit off a big piece of the Ukraine. This is not fiction. There is a war going on now in Ukraine and it is not the first such conflict in the old Russian empire.
The Russians are a paper tiger. Even without the US and Canada NATO outspends Russia by about five to one. In fact Russian military spending is so low that many members of its armed forces are very poorly trained. The Russians may talk like a great power, but they are careful not to push their luck against anyone who might actually fight back. You might note that the Russians thought Ukraine would collapse under Russian pressure, allowing Russia to annex most of Eastern Ukraine, but even that weak nation was able to hold off the Russians.
Not So Scary: This Is Why Russia's Military Is a Paper Tiger | The National Interest Blog
The Russians are a paper tiger? That's exactly what Hitler thought.
So far, they are getting their own way.
I'm sure we need another medium sized conflict to get some of the deadwood to pay up. Canada included.
I know that Trump expects everyone to kick in, but there is an advantage to being one of the few to ante up all the time. You get to call the shots more often than not.
I know that Trump expects everyone to kick in, but there is an advantage to being one of the few to ante up all the time. You get to call the shots more often than not.
Hillary Clinton doesn't have the strength or stamina to be president. Jeb Bush is a low energy individual, but Hillary is not much better!
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Hillary Clinton does not have the STRENGTH or STAMINA to be President. We need strong and super smart for our next leader - or trouble!
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You have to wonder if, over all, it is to the US's advantage to have an unarmed neighbour next door.
It certainly isn't to our advantage beyond the extra bit of treasure that we can horde by having another country defend us.
We are still a colony. Grown-up countries defend themselves.
Did the US have a UN mandate to overthrow Iran in 1953.
NATO has done more for the US than it has for any other country. How much in arms sales has the US gotten because the buyers were NATO members who also had to upgrade systems that were still unused so why would an upgrade be needed?
This is just setting the tone for when he does his UN speech. NATO will become the EU Military arm and the UN will move to Jerusalem and be used to push forward a global government with guess who at the helm.
NATO has done more for the US than it has for any other country. How much in arms sales has the US gotten because the buyers were NATO members who also had to upgrade systems that were still unused so why would an upgrade be needed?
This is just setting the tone for when he does his UN speech. NATO will become the EU Military arm and the UN will move to Jerusalem and be used to push forward a global government with guess who at the helm.
I'm pretty sure any attack will have Canada as a secondary object. We have our tundra to keep us save from invasion from the north. Tundra isn't considered a nation treasure yet. The danger is we back the dark horse out of misplaced loyalties. The worst is we become a big refugee camp, back to the Jungle is worse than back to the stone age.
We are all aware of how much each Country spends. What the debate is should those Countries pay more to create profits for the American Military or should we pay the same and spend that money on things that will help the citizens of those Countries.......
. . . . and the point of letting that national security topic out into the public serves what purpose?? Do you know how mant enemy vehicles that would have swallowed up??? HuH, I can't hear you!!
Isn't it funny that some clown who is infamous for not paying his bills should lecture others about paying their bills?
