Sea Levels Are Rising Even Faster Than Previously Thought

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I'm in Alberta, 2200 ft above the current sea level, just how excited do you want me to get?? How much water can Canada's swamps absorb??
 

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Global sea level rise is precipitated by two factors: the thermal expansion of oceans due to warming and the increased melting of the polar ice caps

LOL, no offense OP, but that is bullsh!t right there!
At the north pole, the ice is already in the water, and the laws of displacement dictate that as/if they melt, no sea level change will take place re ice in water.
At the south pole the ice is increasing.

told the Washington Post.
oh no! not the now FAMOUS fake news paper the WAPO!!!

“Sea levels will continue to rise over the coming century,
...and hitlary will win the election by a mudslide!!!

the models have never been right before
;)

The increased rate is believed to be due to melting ice sheets in the Antarctic and Greenland, although scientists seem to diverge when it comes to the rate.
..Believed (religion)....seem to diverge (confusion)

sea levels could rise
...but then again, maybe they could not....

This is NOT a science article, it is jedi mind control propaganda

"Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
The uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story, writes Christopher Booker.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change.

And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.

The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world"."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/...sea-levels-is-the-greatest-lie-ever-told.html

here is the link to the supporting data from the OP
http://www.pnas.org/content/suppl/2017/05/16/1616007114.DCSupplemental/pnas.201616007SI.pdf
Count how many times they used the word "MODEL" in the first couple paragraphs
:)

Sorry to be such a ball breaker there Boomer.
It's my tax dollars too.
 
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Curious Cdn

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It's melting continental ice from Antarctica, Greenland, the Canadian Arctic Archipelago that raises sea levels, not sea ice.
 

Danbones

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prove it's rising
guess you didn't read the part about the guy actually measures the stuff
;)
figures
NASA Study Shows Global Sea Ice Diminishing, Despite Antarctic Gains
https://www.nasa.gov/content/goddar...l-sea-ice-diminishing-despite-antarctic-gains

never mind, you have your models to play with

Greenland Enters 2017 Adding Extraordinary Amounts Of Ice And Snow
http://dailycaller.com/2017/01/02/g...adding-extraordinary-amounts-of-ice-and-snow/
Current Surface Mass Budget of the Greenland Ice Sheet

http://beta.dmi.dk/en/groenland/maalinger/greenland-ice-sheet-surface-mass-budget/

hope they don't have to many parts you can put in your mouth and accidentally swallow
lol...no I don't
 
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Not really too surprising as both Greenland and Antarctica are thawing but not really a worry as they are likely to get a cold snap for an extended period. Cycles are just a part of climate.
 

Danbones

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Why don't you ask the people in Florida to prove that it isn't?
Flooding of Coast, Caused by Global Warming, Has Already Begun

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/...used-by-global-warming-has-already-begun.html

South Florida continues prep for sea level rise



South Florida continues prep for sea level rise - Sun Sentinel

THE NYTIMES???
the PROVEN FAKE FREAKIN NEWS???

From your NYTIMES link:
“The water has to be rising if we never flooded, and all of a sudden we’ve flooded three times in eight years.”
ANECDOTAL is NOT EVIDENCE! That's 5 times in 8 years it DIDN'T FLOOD!!!

"According to a New York Times article, a probable estimate for sea level rise in the next 100 to 300 years is five feet."
http://www.medianola.org/discover/place/1103/Climate-Change-and-Sea-Level-Rise-in-New-Orleans
"a probable estimate" That is proof?
Like "snow is a thing of the past" is proof?
Pssst! That deadline is past - We STILL HAVE SNOW!

Let's ask the people of Florida shall we, like you said.
"The map above shows areas of Florida that would be flooded at various stages "
http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/florida.shtml
"THAT WOULD BE"...
Oh look, a "hitlary will win prediction". That is NOT PROOF.

South Florida continues prep for sea level rise - Sun Sentinel
Florida "PREPS FOR"? "Preps for" is PROOF? Geezus Doood, are you a teacher?
Only someone who "teaches because they can't do" would consider anything that says
"preps for" as proof of anything.
Preps for what, a HITLARY WIN???
That's NOT PROOF.

LOL, you are a NUT
stop it

Well, think that, if it improves your situation. :)
Maybe you should check, but subsistence is why some people have tried to claim sea level rise to justify this fake global warming TAX BS in the past.
Thats why I quoted the top sea level measuring expert in the world who says NO SEA LEVEL RISE!!!


Canada's senior (first ever) PHD in climatology.
http://drtimball.com/

Any of you "global warming" ( can't be "climate change" the new mantra, that would be maybe, 50% chance of sea level SHRINKAGE TOO) guys know how to read?

Lets do some actual science:
:)

"The USGS Water Science School: "Land Subsidence"

Land subsidence occurs when large amounts of groundwater have been withdrawn from certain types of rocks, such as fine-grained sediments. The rock compacts because the water is partly responsible for holding the ground up.

When the water is withdrawn, the rocks falls in on itself. You may not notice land subsidence too much because it can occur over large areas rather than in a small spot, like a sinkhole. That doesn't mean that subsidence is not a big event -- states like California, Texas, and Florida have suffered damage to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars over the years.
https://water.usgs.gov/edu/earthgwlandsubside.html

Looks the NY TIMES is a LIAR AGAIN, and I guess also that BAR is MISTAKEN,
and because of uneducated voters like that I have to pay a carbon TAX too?
That sucks. ( and you are the people that support vaccination too)
:(
 
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Curious Cdn

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Or is Florida sinking?

Florida and the Maldives are both sinking. They're attached by a giant bungee cord that runs right through the earth and pulls them both together. There a no other explanation.

Science.
 

Musky

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LOL, no offense OP, but that is bullsh!t right there!
At the north pole, the ice is already in the water, and the laws of displacement dictate that as/if they melt, no sea level change will take place re ice in water.
At the south pole the ice is increasing.


oh no! not the now FAMOUS fake news paper the WAPO!!!


...and hitlary will win the election by a mudslide!!!

the models have never been right before
;)

..Believed (religion)....seem to diverge (confusion)


...but then again, maybe they could not....

This is NOT a science article, it is jedi mind control propaganda

"Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told'
The uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story, writes Christopher Booker.

But if there is one scientist who knows more about sea levels than anyone else in the world it is the Swedish geologist and physicist Nils-Axel Mörner, formerly chairman of the INQUA International Commission on Sea Level Change.

And the uncompromising verdict of Dr Mörner, who for 35 years has been using every known scientific method to study sea levels all over the globe, is that all this talk about the sea rising is nothing but a colossal scare story.

Despite fluctuations down as well as up, "the sea is not rising," he says. "It hasn't risen in 50 years." If there is any rise this century it will "not be more than 10cm (four inches), with an uncertainty of plus or minus 10cm". And quite apart from examining the hard evidence, he says, the elementary laws of physics (latent heat needed to melt ice) tell us that the apocalypse conjured up by
Al Gore and Co could not possibly come about.

The reason why Dr Mörner, formerly a Stockholm professor, is so certain that these claims about sea level rise are 100 per cent wrong is that they are all based on computer model predictions, whereas his findings are based on "going into the field to observe what is actually happening in the real world"."
Rise of sea levels is 'the greatest lie ever told' - Telegraph

here is the link to the supporting data from the OP
http://www.pnas.org/content/suppl/2017/05/16/1616007114.DCSupplemental/pnas.201616007SI.pdf
Count how many times they used the word "MODEL" in the first couple paragraphs
:)

Sorry to be such a ball breaker there Boomer.
It's my tax dollars too.

Tim Ball eh.....okay. Can you provide any of his scientific papers? I'd like read them.

Land subsidence? From your link...land substinence is most often caused by human activities.

Huh....sort of anthropogenic....eh.