Russia, Iran vow continued military support for Assad

[Murphy]

This is an interesting read. It is posted to Al Jazeera, which, given the events of the past few days, makes it valuable for what it doesn't say.

The thrust of the article is that Russia and Iran will continue to work together "to defeat terrorism". It mentions the US strike in passing, as if to suggest that neither government was bothered by what happened. (Oh, to be a fly on the wall in Moscow!) They condemned the US operation (naturally), but they are going to continue fighting terrorism.

This is the beating of chests I mentioned in another thread. They got the message.

Russia, Iran vow continued military support for Assad

The two countries say they will continue military cooperation in support of Assad "until total defeat of terrorists".

The army chiefs of Russia and Iran have vowed to continue the fight against "terrorists" and their supporters in Syria days after the US Navy launched a barrage of cruise missiles against a Syrian goverment airbase.

Speaking by phone on Saturday, Major General Mohammad Bagheri of Iran and General Valery Gerasimov of Russia "condemned the American operation against a Syrian airbase which is an aggression against an independent country", Iran's state news agency IRNA reported.

The US strikes "aim at slowing the victories of the Syrian army and its allies, and reinforcing terrorist groups", the two chiefs of staff said in a statement.

The rest here.

Russia, Iran vow continued military support for Assad | Syria News | Al Jazeera

 

[MHz]

You don't have to be a fly on the wall to know what cancellation of the steps that prevented accidental conflict between Russian and Coalition aircraft means.
It is a wonder Turkey doesn't get dizzy from sw3itching sides so often but then a Turkey is a turkey no matter what.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201704081052449237-why-us-should-face-trial/
Sabbah Zanganeh, a political commentator and an ex-adviser to the Iranian Foreign Minister spoke to Sputnik Persian in an interview about the missile attack by the US on the Syrian Arab Army.

“If the US president's statements boil down to the point that air attacks were conducted from Ash Sha’irat air base to use the chemical substances on the city of Khan Shaykhun, it means that this should be confirmed by an ad hoc group of independent experts. However, this did not happen!” Zanganeh said.
He further said that if the US is so confident in their accusations, they could call for an early investigation so that what they were saying can be confirmed.
“However, they took unauthorized unilateral measures without any consultations and permissive sanctions against all possible international rules and norms,” the ex-adviser said.
Zanganeh further said that it is known that any unilateral actions without the approval of the UN Security Council are regarded as crimes and are strongly condemned.
“Such unilateral actions are nothing more than aiding terrorism. By conducting these attacks, the US is helping Daesh, al-Nusra Front and other terrorist groups. It is an established fact that after such actions by the US, another terrorist attack will follow,” he said.
He added that the terrorists were able to capture the city of Palmyra once again.
In his opinion the persons responsible for the air base attack must be brought to trial and those countries that are able to pave the way for the suspension of such arbitrariness on the part of the US should take all possible measures to prevent such actions by the Americans in Syria.

 

[Murphy]

Reading propaganda is valuable for a number of reasons. It tells you what the other side is telling its citizens and other parts of the world. It hints at how seriously Russia is taking the strike. It is a tool when compiling an 'after action' report.

But it tells you nothing about Russia's official position. What? There is a difference between what their public "official position" is, and what their "official position" is at the Kremlin.
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From Pravda

Syria missile attack: Too many bombs, too little destruction

According to US President Donald Trump, the US military successfully represented their country and the world in carrying out the attack on the military airfield in Syria. Trump congratulated the participants of the operation by posting a message on his Twitter account.

"Congratulations to our great military men and women for representing the United States, and the world, so well in the Syria attack," Trump wrote.

(The following is at odds with intel photos - murphy)

At the same time, Russia's Defense Ministry assessed the combat effectiveness of the US cruise missile strike at the airbase in Syria as "extremely low."

According to the Russian defense department, only 23 of 59 cruise missiles fired from American destroyers have reached their targets, official representative for the Defence Ministry of the Russian Federation, Igor Konashenkov told reporters on April 7, RIA Novosti reports.

(What follows is a great propaganda statement. It leaves the Russians open to "discover" collateral damage - civilian deaths, infrastructure damage/destruction - should the need arise. It also plants the seeds of doubt in those who only hear or read this without benefit of foreign television or Internet access. - murphy)

"According to Russian means of objective control, only 23 missiles have reached the Syrian airbase. The place of the fall of the remaining 36 cruise missiles is unknown," Konashenkov said.

The USA launched 59 Tomahawk missiles on Shayrat airbase in Syria on April 7. However, pictures of the airbase after the attack show relatively little destruction, even though 59 bombs should have wiped the airbase off the face of Earth.

(Those would be the videos/still taken by the Russians. It's safe to say that, for security reasons, not all the pix and video footage were released to the public. They certainly know the precision with which the Tomahawks did their job. The layman however, knows little or nothing about their purpose, composition and destructive power. - murphy)

Syria missile attack: Too many bombs, too little destruction - PravdaReport

 

[MHz]

I wonder how many times 'the Donald' will say, 'F*ck.' over the weekend?

https://sputniknews.com/us/201704081052452101-trump-letter-congress-syria-airstrike/

Acting under the mandate of the 1973 War Powers Resolution bill, US President Donald Trump submitted a written explanation to Congress for Saturday’s missile strike in Syria.

"I acted in the vital national security and foreign policy interests of the United States, pursuant to my constitutional authority to conduct foreign relations and as Commander in Chief and Chief Executive," Trump wrote, The Hill reported.
The letter, addressed to House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), also stated that, "The United States will take additional action, as necessary and appropriate, to further its important national interests."
Addressing the nation on television immediately following the US airstrike, Trump said, "Tonight I ordered a targeted military strike on the airfield in Syria from where the chemical attack was launched. It is in this vital, national security interest of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons."
He also said "there can be no dispute" that Syrian government forces had launched the chemical attack, an assertion that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad continues to deny.
Obeying the mandate of the Nixon-era War Powers Resolution, a president must submit the justification for ordering the use of force within a 48-hour time period.

 

[eh1eh]

I wonder how many times 'the Donald' will say, 'F*ck.' over the weekend?

https://sputniknews.com/us/201704081052452101-trump-letter-congress-syria-airstrike/

Acting under the mandate of the 1973 War Powers Resolution bill, US President Donald Trump submitted a written explanation to Congress for Saturday’s missile strike in Syria.

"I acted in the vital national security and foreign policy interests of the United States, pursuant to my constitutional authority to conduct foreign relations and as Commander in Chief and Chief Executive," Trump wrote, The Hill reported.
The letter, addressed to House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) and Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), also stated that, "The United States will take additional action, as necessary and appropriate, to further its important national interests."
Addressing the nation on television immediately following the US airstrike, Trump said, "Tonight I ordered a targeted military strike on the airfield in Syria from where the chemical attack was launched. It is in this vital, national security interest of the United States to prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons."
He also said "there can be no dispute" that Syrian government forces had launched the chemical attack, an assertion that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad continues to deny.
Obeying the mandate of the Nixon-era War Powers Resolution, a president must submit the justification for ordering the use of force within a 48-hour time period.

Little Donny doesn't know what to say fukk about yet. Still a clueless wonder.
At least he got Bannon off the security council.

 

[Danbones]

now the israelis can run the show unhindered

Meet the Jewish Billionaires Shaping the 2016 Presidential Election
A quick look at the list of top political donors for 2014 reveals a striking fact: At least a third of the most generous 50 mega-givers were Jewish.
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/1.658520
haaretz

...and all the soros funded demos are worried about russians
mutha fikker

the same oligarch class the Christian russians just threw out
them and their communism and naziism..and aparhiedism

PS:
funny how the zionist owned papers that hated Trump last week luv him now ain't it

 

[Murphy]

That's wonderful, but unrelated to the thread. You should really consider starting your own tin foil hat thread. Gather up all the conspiracy theorists into an effective, organized group. But I know that you cannot. :lol:
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Here's something from the Syrian Times. It's an English language "news" site. The "average" person's reaction. It made me laugh. An unsuccessful attempt to suggest they are the innocent, but tired victims of America. Not convincing. The government there wants the world's sympathy. So far, they aren't getting it. - murphy

A Message to President Trump

A message from a Homsi (a citizen of Homs, a city in western Syria - murphy) to President Trump: All day here, in Homs, Syria, been getting the people's reactions to the US bombing of the nearby air field and "You suck" sums them all up pretty well. A very dear close friend lost his uncle today, one of the leaders of that airbase. A man who had been fighting ISIS for years in Deir Ezzor.

Anger, sadness, frustration, disgust but not much surprise. While many here were encouraged by Trump's campaign rhetoric, they know that talk is cheap. They've been waiting to see if there might be some slim possibility of an American president who would not have a "shoot first, ask questions never" foreign policy.

The rest here.

http://syriatimes.sy/index.php/editorials/opinion/30009-a-message-from-a-homsi-to-president-trump

 

[MHz]

(What follows is a great propaganda statement. It leaves the Russians open to "discover" collateral damage - civilian deaths, infrastructure damage/destruction - should the need arise. It also plants the seeds of doubt in those who only hear or read this without benefit of foreign television or Internet access. - murphy)

I hope you aren't considered to be the smart one in the family. I doubt people without such access will even hear about syria at all. Even in the US you won't be reading about the 200 civilians just killed in Mosul by US airstrikes.
Why would you think that is that way??

US Kills 200+ Civilians In Mosul Airstrike

More Than 1,000 Civilians Reportedly Killed by U.S.-Led Airstrikes as Trump Expands War on Terror

Published on Mar 27, 2017
http://democracynow.org - Details are emerging about U.S.-led coalition airstrikes that are believed to have killed over 200 people in a single day in Iraq. The U.S.-led coalition has admitted launching airstrikes on March 17 targeting a crowded neighborhood in Mosul. They are among the deadliest U.S. airstrikes in the region since the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003. According to some reports, one of these strikes destroyed houses where hundreds of people were taking refuge amid the city’s heavy fighting. Up to 80 civilians, including women and children, may have died in one house’s basement alone. This bombing is just one of an onslaught of U.S.-led coalition airstrikes in Iraq and Syria that has killed as many as 1,000 civilians in March alone, according to the journalistic project Airwars. For more, we speak with Chris Woods, founder of Airwars, a nonprofit group that monitors civilian deaths from international airstrikes in Syria and Iraq.

 

[Murphy]

Thanks for stopping by. We have all the nutbars we need right now. Leave your resume with reception.

 

[Ludlow]

I for one am shocked and appalled. Who would have even dreamed that Russia and Iran would shun humanitarianism.

 

[darkbeaver]

Looks like the end game to me and the climate will cooperate like they knew it would a long time ago. What a fukkin mess.

 

[MHz]

Thanks for stopping by. We have all the nutbars we need right now. Leave your resume with reception.

Reception with keys to your Office so you can't leave when you want to??
Your comedy routine is worse than your serious side. Take appropriate action now.

Looks like the end game to me and the climate will cooperate like they knew it would a long time ago. What a fukkin mess.

God hasn't let them have an end game since He exiled them to Neb's Babylon. Not even Satan (their current God) can save their as* from what god has laid out for them (and all their Gentile friends)

 

[Murphy]

If you remember the Cold War, crises would occur which the newspapers said brought us to the brink of nuclear war, or a large conflict. Remarkably, the end did not arrive because, as much as we like to slam politicians, cooler heads prevailed. As well, we were more trusting of our government and the media then. Few people thought that the public might be getting misinformation.

Remember when you would turn on the radio and listen for the latest on whatever big event was unfolding? They were the only places that had any updates. You'd scour the local paper for any additional facts. Now, there are so many sites full of conflicting reports that divining the truth is actually more difficult than before.

With the arrival of the Internets, the fringe groups, the government and the media have a better outlet. While we might think that we are more aware of what's happening, my take has always been that we are just as much in the dark as we ever were. We just get to see international media reports or get pictures quickly. What is delivered to our computers isn't always the truth.

In the end, we still have to wait weeks or months to see how things turn out.

 

[darkbeaver]

If you remember the Cold War, crises would occur which the newspapers said brought us to the brink of nuclear war, or a large conflict. Remarkably, the end did not arrive because, as much as we like to slam politicians, cooler heads prevailed. As well, we were more trusting of our government and the media then. Few people thought that the public might be getting misinformation.

With the arrival of the Internets, the fringe groups, the government and the media had a better outlet. While we might think that we are more aware of what's happening, my take has always been that we are just as much in the dark as we ever were. We just get to see international media reports or get pictures quickly. What is delivered to your computer isn't always the truth.

Remember when you would turn on the radio and listen for the latest on whatever big event was unfolding? They were the only places that had any updates. You'd scour the local paper for any additional facts. Now, there are so many sites full of conflicting reports that divining the truth is actually more difficult than before.

No it isn't, just follow the money, the game has been the same for a very long time, you might be confused by paint, others are not .

 

[MHz]

So the Cold War was something that was fully aboveboard without one shot ever being fired by either side and the only ones that profited were the shareholders of the companies that had contracts to build the equipment for a war that was never fought, . . . and then corruption crept in.
You really don't have a clue do you??
https://www.boundless.com/u-s-histo...-cold-war-s-costs-and-consequences-1468-8613/
Costs: Financial and Human Life

Because the two superpowers carried much of the confrontational burden, both Russia and the United States ended up with substantial economic liabilities. Military expenditures by the U.S. during the Cold War years were estimated to have been $8 trillion, while nearly 100,000 Americans lost their lives in the Korean and Vietnam Wars. Although the loss of life among Soviet soldiers is difficult to estimate, as a share of their gross national product, the financial cost for the Soviet Union was far higher than that of the U.S.
In addition to the loss of life by uniformed soldiers, millions died in the superpowers' proxy wars around the globe, most notably in Southeast Asia. Many of the proxy wars and subsidies for local conflicts ended along with the Cold War, and the incidence of interstate, ethnic, and revolutionary wars, as well as refugee and displaced persons crises, has declined somewhat in the post-Cold War years. However, many of the political issues begun during the Cold War years continue today.
Political Legacies

The legacy of Cold War conflict continues today, as many of the economic and social tensions that were exploited to fuel Cold War competition in countries throughout the Third World remain acute. The breakdown of state control in a number of areas formerly ruled by Communist governments has produced new civil and ethnic conflicts, particularly in the former Yugoslavia. In Eastern Europe, the end of the Cold War has ushered in an era of economic growth and a large increase in the number of liberal democracies, while in other parts of the world, such as Afghanistan, independence was accompanied by state failure.
In the wake of the Cold War, nations freed from colonial forces and newly founded nations inherited expenses, commitments, and resources for which they were not prepared. The successor states also found themselves with contemporary national-security burdens, all of which had to be financed, and new or revised civilian economies had to be instituted.

No it isn't, just follow the money, the game has been the same for a very long time, you might be confused by paint, others are not .

He's so full of iot he is probably drinking the paint, . . . and the kool-aid.

 

[Murphy]

The Internets has also let the average person voice his or her opinion on things. It's always funny when people say things like, it's the Illuminati, or follow the money or it's aliens. Like they have a secret information source or special insight.
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Chinese News

Not much mentioned about the US strike on Syria in the five online news sources I looked at. It's too far away and unrelated to China, I suspect.

Of course, President Xi and President Trump made every front page.

From Shanghai Daily.

This reads like the Radio Moscow of old with phrases like 'mutual cooperation', 'mutual respect' and 'enhancing relations' used throughout. It's a wordy report of Xi and Trump's meeting. To me, it suggests that things are pretty much unchanged from before the meeting, with no major stumbling blocks.
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Xi, Trump pledge to expand win-win cooperation, manage differences

CHINESE President Xi Jinping and his US counterpart, Donald Trump, pledged on Friday to expand mutually beneficial cooperation and manage differences on the basis of mutual respect.

Xi made the two-day trip to the southeastern US coastal town of Palm Beach for the first meeting with Trump, in a bid to chart the course of bilateral ties in a new era.

POSITIVE, FRUITFUL MEETING

The two leaders agreed that their first meeting, held at the seaside Mar-a-Lago resort in the US state of Florida, was "positive and fruitful."

During their talks over the two days, Xi and Trump exchanged views on key areas of bilateral cooperation as well as global and regional issues of common concern.

Xi, Trump pledge to expand win-win cooperation, manage differences | Shanghai Daily

 

[darkbeaver]

The Internets has also let the average person voice his or her opinion on things. It's always funny when people say things like, it's the Illuminati, or follow the money or it's aliens. Like they have a secret information source or special insight. QUOTE]

If your not up to the average here we have colouring threads you know.

 

[MHz]

Back to the same old, same old already. No morality at all.
US Strikes Again in Syria ? This Time Hitting a Coffee Shop Full of People
A US airstrike in western Raqqa has killed at least 15 and injured dozens, according to multiple reports.
"The airstrike devastated an internet coffee shop in Hanedah town in western Raqqa countryside. The airstrike killed more than 20 civilians and injured dozens more," according to Al Masdar News.
Time to convene another emergency Security Council meeting?


No surprise here.
Pentagon Gave Israel Front Row Seats to US Missile Strikes in Syria
Israel was given VIP treatment while Trump pounded Syria with overpriced missiles, according to Israel's intelligence minister.
Yisrael Katz, Israel's intelligence minister and a member of the Cabinet’s defense forum, said in a Friday interview that US defense officials “updated Israel in real time” about the strike, according to the Jewish Telegraph Agency.
Israel was a vocal proponent for military action in response to the alleged gas attack in Idlib province on Tuesday.
As the Jerusalem Post wrote on April 4, "Amid the voices in Israel’s political establishment on Tuesday roundly condemning the Syrian chemical attack and calling on the world to actively intervene, some called for Israel to rethink its own policy toward Syria and suggested taking limited military action."
Former military intelligence chief Amos Yadlin said in an interview shortly after the "gas attack" on Tuesday that Israel should "destroy the planes that carried out the chemical attack."

“I think that the right thing that should happen tonight is that the same planes that attacked in Idlib will disappear, and be hit, not by soldiers that come on the ground, but there is precise weaponry that you can send from afar.”


The trolls are headed for their bridges.
Media Goes Quiet as Russia Exposes US Lies at Security Council
Twitter was flooded with commentary about Nikki Haley's call to arms against Russia during the Security Council meeting on Wednesday afternoon. But no one bothered to report what Russia had to say.
Russia's deputy United Nations ambassador Vladimir Safronkov said that the West's "obsession with regime change is what hinders this Security Council."
He noted that for Washington and its partners, "everything is guided by regime change" and allegations that Assad used chemical weapons in an attack in Idlib province on Tuesday are based on "falsified reports from the White Helmets", an organization that has been "discredited long ago".


The shot across the bow, the next ones won't miss.
Report: Syrian Army Attacks US Drone in Northeastern Syria
Syrian Special Forces opened fire on a US reconnaissance drone flying over their positions in northeastern Syria, a military source confirmed to Al-Masdar on Saturday.
Communication channels between Russia and the US have been suspended, which gives Syria more "wiggle room" when it comes to defending its airspace.
Al Masdar News reports:

The U.S. reconnaissance aircraft was reportedly hovering over the Syrian Army’s Regiment 54 Base in Al-Qamishli, when the personnel at the installation opened fire on the plane.
The aircraft fled the area around the base after it came in contact with the Syrian Arab Army on Saturday evening, the military source added.
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[Murphy]

Here we are, two days after the strike, and the world continues to turn. China doesn't seem to care. Russia isn't making much noise. The tin foil hat group continues their silly, uninformed predictions. My grass is finally turning green in the front yard.

It would seem life goes on.

For those of you that (unfortunately) live in the city, here's a musical interlude.

[youtube]oJBm5TUHf0s[/youtube]

 

[MHz]

The Internets has also let the average person voice his or her opinion on things. It's always funny when people say things like, it's the Illuminati, or follow the money or it's aliens. Like they have a secret information source or special insight. QUOTE]

If your not up to the average here we have colouring threads you know.

Thanks, now he will never leave.