Canada Sells High Tech......to China

[Curious Cdn]

Gentlemen:

This is the gov't allowing the transfer of military technology to one of our most dangerous potential enemies against the wishes of security agencies.

We've already done that when the research and patents from Nortel were auctioned off holis-bolis. We buy it back from foreigners every time we purchase a computing or communications device. We did it wholesale, by the pound, after the Avro Arrow cancellation but when the strategic aerospace capabilities of Bombardier need some Federal support, well, the whining and whinging and complaining about "them Frenchies" just never ends.

We need a firm policy to protect our technological leadership. Nobody has bothered with one, up to now. Canada has been "for sale", all along.


You can not really be this stupid

I am personally extremely against the transferrence of this technology or any other with any possible military value. Full stop. I was merely pointing out that usually commerce trumps military necessity in this country as few Canadians give a flying feck about their military. If we did, we would come up with the scratch to defend ourselves rather than to let "Dad" do it for us.

Just a troll .

Those two words are the extent of your contribution to this thread.

Who the hell is the troll, eh?

 

[petros]

You.

 

[White_Unifier]

The Chinese who immigrated aren't Maoists. They got the f-ck out to get away from Communism.

But they're still Chinese with family back in China.

 

[Curious Cdn]

You.

Of course.

 

[White_Unifier]

You.

Or I?

 

[petros]

But they're still Chinese with family back in China.

Right and German immigrants to Canada fought against the Kaiser and Hitler in large numbers.

 

[Curious Cdn]

I know a couple of Chinese families who are Han Chinese by culture and ethnicity but they are Trinidadian by birth and up-bringing. It's kind of interesting. Imagine cool, laid-back, almost Jamaican-like Han Chinese.

Anyway, they are clearly Chinese and they know it but their connection to China are about the same as my connections to Britain after many generations of absence. I wouldn't doubt their loyalty to Canada for a second.

 

[petros]

The best Chinese food I've ever had was in Lima Peru.

 

[White_Unifier]

Right and German immigrants to Canada fought against the Kaiser and Hitler in large numbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism

I know a couple of Chinese families who are Han Chinese by culture and ethnicity but they are Trinidadian by birth and up-bringing. It's kind of interesting. Imagine cool, laid-back, almost Jamaican-like Han Chinese.

Anyway, they are clearly Chinese and they know it but their connection to China are about the same as my connections to Britain after many generations of absence. I wouldn't doubt their loyalty to Canada for a second.

They may be loyal to Canada, but it would still be difficult for Chinese in China to accept China dropping bombs on Han Chinese en masse.

 

[Curious Cdn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism



They may be loyal to Canada, but it would still be difficult for Chinese in China to accept China dropping bombs on Han Chinese en masse.

The Chinese killed something in the vicinity of 30 million Chinese during the Cultural Revolution. There is plenty of ruthlessness, there.

 

[White_Unifier]

The Chinese killed something in the vicinity of 30 million Chinese during the Cultural Revolution. There is plenty of ruthlessness, there.

True. But we're talking here about China attacking foreign lands on which even the Communist party makes no historical claim for China. Plus more Chinese are better educated today than in the past.

Circumstances are at least somewhat different.

 

[petros]

Wanna make a Tibet? Their next conquest is Chiang Kai Shek's only victory, Taiwan.

 

[White_Unifier]

Wanna make a Tibet? Their next conquest is Chiang Kai Shek's only victory, Taiwan.

The Taiwanese officially recognize Taipei the legitimate government of the whole of China, so it's not considered foreign land. so some Chinese can get stupidly, maybe even murderously, emotional over Chinese reunification. I can guarantee though that they wouldn't be too interested in occupying Canada, and even less kill family and friends in Canada.

 

[petros]

China set to invade, retake Taiwan by 2020: Taipei | TODAYonline

 

[Curious Cdn]

True. But we're talking here about China attacking foreign lands on which even the Communist party makes no historical claim for China. Plus more Chinese are better educated today than in the past.

Circumstances are at least somewhat different.

Kapyong ... the Canadian Thermopylae ..

http://vimeo.com/80517793

 

[darkbeaver]

A really stupid move, I don't know why the US and Canada allows all our resources and technology to be sold to the Chinese.

Perhaps you should consider words like conspiracy, fraud, kickbacks, criminals, bank scum and finally but not unheard of treason. At least now you do know why you didn,t know. You should get out of your box more often.

The Trudeau government has approved a Chinese takeover of a Montreal high-tech firm, a deal that national-security agencies had warned Ottawa in 2015 would undermine a technological edge that Western militaries have over China.

This sentence has little or no basis in fact. So the idea that anything other than a big player buying up the little to fatten there own eventual position and maybe tweak thier own a little in the process is ordinary business and not a nefarious plot by anyone. We do not have a military or techknowlogical edge over the Chinese.

 

[White_Unifier]

Taiwan doesn't stand a chance against the mainland in a conventional war. If Taiwan's government were smart, it would legalize the personal possession of an assault rifle to all who pass the handling test.

Make the mainland fight street by street if that's what they want.

As far as I'm concerned, the government in Taipei is the legitimate government of China, not the government in Beijing.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Taiwan doesn't stand a chance against the mainland in a conventional war. If Taiwan's government were smart, it would legalize the personal possession of an assault rifle to all who pass the handling test.

Make the mainland fight street by street if that's what they want.

As far as I'm concerned, the government in Taipei is the legitimate government of China, not the government in Beijing.

The Taiwanese are generations ahead of the PRC, in many ways. If they were smart, they would follow their example.

 

[White_Unifier]

Kapyong ... the Canadian Thermopylae ..

http://vimeo.com/80517793

At that time, the CPC really believed in communism and so was helping its Korean comrades. Now it just believes in maintaining power for the most part. Not much communist about it.

I do lean ever more towards legalizing the private ownership of an assault rifle in Canada to all those with a clean police record who pass the firing and handling test.

The Taiwanese are generations ahead of the PRC, in many ways. If they were smart, they would follow their example.

The mainlanders have the advantage of sheer numbers.

But yes, if the mainland government were smart, it would just hand the mainland over to the government in Taipei.

I laugh at the mainland rhetoric when I lived on the mainland years ago. Taiwan is regarded as a renegade province and it's Taiwan's fault that China is not yet united. Yet when I met Taiwanese in Hong Kong, their main reason for opposing reunification right now was the CPC government in Beijing. So, who[s really at fault for China still not being reunited? The government in Taipei that wants reunification but just not under the CPC or the CPC that refuses to give up power on the mainland?

Seems to me the greatest impediment to the reunification of China is not the government in Taipei, but the CPC government in Beijing.

 

[Curious Cdn]

At that time, the CPC really believed in communism and so was helping its Korean comrades. Now it just believes in maintaining power for the most part. Not much communist about it.

I do lean ever more towards legalizing the private ownership of an assault rifle in Canada to all those with a clean police record who pass the firing and handling test.

Their nineteenth century military tactics were less than successful. They may still see themselves as THE planet's great power, even though so much of the world passed them by hundreds of years, ago. China is not immune from hubris and crushing Tibetans may have imparted an inaccurate sense of military invulnerability to them.