Should all who enter Canada enjoy freedom of religion?

Should all who enter Canada enjoy freedom of religion?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 6 50.0%
  • No.

    Votes: 4 33.3%
  • Other answer.

    Votes: 2 16.7%

  • Total voters
    12

gerryh

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I was stating facts in response to Mhz. I wasn't stating opinion. I also don't agree with the Sinixt wanting their status back. It would be like voluntary servitude. I am just a baffled by Indian politics as anybody else.


It's very simple. It's called "poor me". You want see what happens when "poor me" is thrown out the window? Look at the Westbank First Nations.
 

Cliffy

Standing Member
Nov 19, 2008
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It's very simple. It's called "poor me". You want see what happens when "poor me" is thrown out the window? Look at the Westbank First Nations.
Yup, they have learned to assimilate real good. They rented out the entire reserve to corporations and now want to move their people to New Denver or the Arrow Lakes because they have no room for their people on the rez.
 

gerryh

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Nov 21, 2004
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Yup, they have learned to assimilate real good. They rented out the entire reserve to corporations and now want to move their people to New Denver or the Arrow Lakes because they have no room for their people on the rez.


assimilate my a$$. They have done what they have needed to do to care for themselves. Of course, the "poor me" will call them apples and sell outs since they no longer rely on hand outs. They don't cry about the past, they have looked to the future and built one for themselves. They are self reliant.

But you go ahead and support the "poor me's". Those that blame everything on others. Those that expect others to care for them and theirs rather than standing tall and caring for themselves. You continue to support that which is killing the people. Continue to support the "poor me" in their continued effort to kill themselves.
 

White_Unifier

Senate Member
Feb 21, 2017
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assimilate my a$$. They have done what they have needed to do to care for themselves. Of course, the "poor me" will call them apples and sell outs since they no longer rely on hand outs. They don't cry about the past, they have looked to the future and built one for themselves. They are self reliant.

But you go ahead and support the "poor me's". Those that blame everything on others. Those that expect others to care for them and theirs rather than standing tall and caring for themselves. You continue to support that which is killing the people. Continue to support the "poor me" in their continued effort to kill themselves.

I hate it when I agree with you!

But I agree. The Chinese pay out of pocket to send their Children to Chinese Sunday school. They don't go crying to the Charter to build schools just for them. Jews pay out of pocket to send their children to Jewish schools. Again, they don't go crying to the Charter to do it for them.
 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
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I hate it when I agree with you!

But I agree. The Chinese pay out of pocket to send their Children to Chinese Sunday school. They don't go crying to the Charter to build schools just for them. Jews pay out of pocket to send their children to Jewish schools. Again, they don't go crying to the Charter to do it for them.

The money follows the student. If Chinese Jews want to send their kids to a Sikh Gurdwara they will be funded.
 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
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Yes in Ontario.

Per pupil funding
Much of education funding is tied to enrolment.
Funding for classroom teachers, education assistants, textbooks and learning materials, classroom supplies, classroom computers, library and guidance services, preparation time (which funds specialist and student success teachers), and professional and para-professional supports is all allocated on a per pupil basis. (e.g. for every 763 elementary students, the province provides funding for one teacher-librarian; for every 385 secondary students, the province provides funding for one guidance counsellor).
Funding to heat, light, maintain and repair schools also depends, for the most part, on student numbers. There is funding to maintain 104 square feet per elementary student, 130 square feet per secondary student and 100 square feet per adult education student. There is also some “top up” funding for schools that are just below the provincially-designated capacity.
While a proportion of boards’ funding is based on numbers of students, there are other grants added to the “per pupil” base (Special Education, English or French language support, Transportation, Declining Enrolment, Learning Opportunities etc.). Per pupil funding is not meant to be equal, as different boards have different needs. But it is meant to provide equal educational opportunity\ies for all students.

How is education funded in Ontario? | People for Education
 

White_Unifier

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Feb 21, 2017
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But that is limited to five kinds if schools in reality:

English secular, English Catholic, English Protestant, French secular, and French Catholic.

Six in theory with the possibility of French Protestant if the necessary conditions were met.

This does not apply to any other language or any other religion.

So it's fair to say that it subsidies certain groups.
 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
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And if Chinese Jews wanted to set up a school they'd get per pupil funding just like all the others and obviously top up funding if they fall short on enrollement requirements because there just aren't that many Chinese Jews.
 

White_Unifier

Senate Member
Feb 21, 2017
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The certain groups that you speak of represent the vast majority of the taxpayers that fund the actual system... In essence, they are subsidizing themselves

The minorities subsidize it too though. In that sense, a more free-market approach would be more fair. Either vouchers or just pull government out of it entirely.
 

taxslave

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 25, 2008
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But that is limited to five kinds if schools in reality:

English secular, English Catholic, English Protestant, French secular, and French Catholic.

Six in theory with the possibility of French Protestant if the necessary conditions were met.

This does not apply to any other language or any other religion.

So it's fair to say that it subsidies certain groups.
How is it a subsidy? The funding is the same as public schools get.
 

captain morgan

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Mar 28, 2009
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The minorities subsidize it too though. In that sense, a more free-market approach would be more fair. Either vouchers or just pull government out of it entirely.

Their tax contributions follow their children regardless of where they send their kids. If there ain't enough Wicca's to justify the construction of a stand-alone school, then they will have to dig into their own pockets to make up the short fall
 

petros

The Central Scrutinizer
Nov 21, 2008
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Their tax contributions follow their children regardless of where they send their kids. If there ain't enough Wicca's to justify the construction of a stand-alone school, then they will have to dig into their own pockets to make up the short fall

From the ON funding posted above...

There is also some “top up” funding for schools that are just below the provincially-designated capacity
.

How is education funded in Ontario? | People for Education