Time for Justin to grow a set of balls

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So how many should we take before the law is changed? 100,000?, a million?, 5 million?

If you are asking for my opinion, and that's all I have, we should take none of them. All the ones who came from the US should be handed back to the US authorities. There possibly could be others that did not come from the US, and would be handled differently.
 

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They wouldn't feel threatened if they were citizens


Exactly!

If you are asking for my opinion, and that's all I have, we should take none of them. All the ones who came from the US should be handed back to the US authorities. There possibly could be others that did not come from the US, and would be handled differently.


Yep, that's what I was kind of getting at in the thread. :)
 

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Welcome to the world Canada!

For decades Canada's border fence stretched from the US Southwest all the way to Washington, Montana, the Great Lakes States, Upstate NY and New England.

Those days are gone.

The Maple Express is underway.
 

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I am aware of how the laws are here. The adult illegals are taken into custody and they get a representative to explain to them what, if any legal options they have. I doubt that you will see any illegals who came in from the US sent back across the border in a bus. Barring proof of them being wanted for a serious crime somewhere else in the world, they will be put up here.

It depends. The government would rather not have to deal with this and they would have to make special provisions to let these people in. It would be in violation of the US/Canada agreement and an insult to the United States. If this a major influx of refugees the government is going to have choose between Trudeau cultivating the appearance of a humanitarian and the geo-political fallout.

So how many should we take before the law is changed? 100,000?, a million?, 5 million?

100 million? A billion? A TRILLION?
 

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This cannot be stopped.

Well if isn't then Canadians should consider invading NY harbor, yanking Lady Liberty off her current perch, towing her up to Newfoundland and parking her there where her light can once again shine brightly and where the words of Emma Lazarus may be more truly echoed.
 

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Well if isn't then Canadians should consider invading NY harbor, yanking Lady Liberty off her current perch, towing her up to Newfoundland and parking her there where her light can once again shine brightly and where the words of Emma Lazarus may be more truly echoed.

Should we perch her at Halifax Harbour, Vancouver Harbour, or somewhere else?
 

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We can't have people thinking that they can illegally cross our borders at any time of year, Corduroy.

I agree. It's incredibly dangerous.

Our government needs to sit down and draw up or amend current laws in order to allow the RCMP and Border Security Agencies to escort those individuals/groups back to the US. They have no right to take priority over the thousands of legal applicants currently in line for entry to our country.

Refugees are special cases are a little more complicated than first come first serve. It doesn't seem fair to people from Syria who have been waiting for years, but fleeing across borders is what refugees do.
 

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It depends. The government would rather not have to deal with this and they would have to make special provisions to let these people in. It would be in violation of the US/Canada agreement and an insult to the United States. If this a major influx of refugees the government is going to have choose between Trudeau cultivating the appearance of a humanitarian and the geo-political fallout.

100 million? A billion? A TRILLION?

I am not an immigration lawyer, but if they came to N. America and their first country of arrival was the US, then I would think that they can be handed back to the US authorities.

That said, I am sure that if the US authorities (officers on scene) can sluff off the chore of dealing with these illegal aliens, they will. Let the US and CDN bureaucrats deal with the legal problems. For example, they would wait until their chain issued a directive saying that if the Cdn authorities refused them entry, then the US would have no choice but to take them back and place them under arrest.

The problem here, the way I see it at any rate, is politics gets in the way of a Mountie saying, "Uh, uh! Back you go!"

Have the RCMP received instructions on how to handle the illegal aliens? Has the US border authority received instructions on how to handle any illegals crossing from the US into Canada? (IOW, let 'em go!)

Some of this we will never know. In the meantime, bureaucracy kicks in and what one would think is a simple process, gets bogged down. If after a few days, we see buses full of illegals being sent back to the US, with their wounds bandaged, then I will say the system is working.
 
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Should we perch her at Halifax Harbour, Vancouver Harbour, or somewhere else?

Well dear, it might problematical getting her to Vancouver harbor........so let's stick to the East coast.......say St Johns?

Looks like they have a lovely spot quite suitable for the Lady and overlooking the inner harbor. :smile:


 

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I am not an immigration lawyer, but if they came to N. America and their first country of arrival was the US, then I would think that they can be handed back to the US authorities.

That is what the law says, in particular for refugees who originally landed in the US.

If after a few days, we see buses full of illegals being sent back to the US, with their wounds bandaged, then I will say the system is working.

It will probably take much longer than that to deport anyone. In the meantime, the government is likely to lose track of a lot of them.
 

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Well dear, it might problematical getting her to Vancouver harbor........so let's stick to the East coast.......say St Johns?

Looks like they have a lovely spot quite suitable for the Lady and overlooking the inner harbor. :smile:



The inner harbour?! What? She's just welcoming the locals and maybe Europeans eh. Nothing wrong with Europeans. We welcome them like we should everyone else.
 

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The inner harbour?! What? She's just welcoming the locals and maybe Europeans eh. Nothing wrong with Europeans. We welcome them like we should everyone else.

I put her there because she would be protected from the notorious Atlantic gales that NFLD is often subjected to, WU.
 

Murphy

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That is what the law says, in particular for refugees who originally landed in the US.

It will probably take much longer than that to deport anyone. In the meantime, the government is likely to lose track of a lot of them.

Which is why the system is fractured. Bandage the wounds, pack them on a bus and take them across the border toute suite! They broke the laws of the US first. We snagged them and turned them around.

But what of these people who are now on our side of the border? Immigration lawyers are probably made available, along with translators, to inform the illegal aliens what they've done wrong and what their rights are.

Most would ask, 'Why would any disappear?' Well, I'd bet that's because no one is watching them. No funds for extra babysitting help. Detainees can be kept under wraps at any Cdn jail until arrangements are made to deport them though.

I would be very surprised if the laws didn't read (paraphrased) to what I've written. If so, what's happened that a laid out process has failed? That, I do not know. The cynic in me suspects the immigration lawyers, but I have no proof that they would attempt any legal shenanigans.
 

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