THE OFFICIAL KEVIN O'Leary for Prime Minister thread.

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

You can't have things both ways. Either he succeeded as Finance Minister or he didn't and he did do something that the previous nine years of PC ministers could not do which is get government spending under control.

Do you have any comprehension of how ridiculous that statement is?

It's like saying that Hitler was a great leader because he kickstarted the German Economy by invading Europe. I mean look at his accomplishments:

• He built a great railroad;
• He put Volkswagon on the map; and
• His rocket scientists were the fore-fathers of space travel.

I mean sure, he killed six milion Jews and created a global conflict, but you can't dispute that he liked puppies and was a painter and an author. So, he was a great leader, because you can't have it both ways.

Extreme comparison?

Yes, absolutely, but then I'm speaking to an extreme left winger who sees no fault in his political icons.

I get a kick out of the Hard Left and Right types, there's no middle ground, no compromise and attempting to discuss or debate with them is like negotiating a land deal with a bowl of marshmallows.

For the record, yes, you can have it both ways. You can attribute the good and the bad. Unfortunately, you are so entrenched in your political leaning that you see only black or white.

I do not want to see the Conservative party to go down in flames because a vocal minority thinks that a Canadian Trump is a peachy-keen idea.
It's suicidal. Canadians are not that angry. They are not at all angry in most of the country and the anger in Alberta will dissipate when the oil industry picks up, again.

O'Leary is not a Canadian Trump; even though those who fear him will try and frame him that way.

 

[JLM]

You can't have things both ways. Either he succeeded as Finance Minister or he didn't and he did do something that the previous nine years of PC ministers could not do which is get government spending under control.

Maybe he could be graded about 60%, he dumped a lot of sh*t on the provinces and there were suggestions he was in conflict of interest over his own investments. Perhaps he was honest w/o giving the perception of honesty. I'm sure there are some who could provide an accurate assessment. Someone has to take the hit for the Sponsorship scandal, I guess!

 

[Jinentonix]

Martin was the best finance minister we've had in several decades.

Oh yeah, fantastic. He closed down all the offshore loopholes, except the one he and his family partook of. It's pretty hard to speak praise for a finance minister who refused to pay his share of the burden.

Replaced the tired Conservatives

He didn't accomplish that, his last name did. Try reading what you respond to a little more carefully.

 

[Bar Sinister]

Do you have any comprehension of how ridiculous that statement is?

It's like saying that Hitler was a great leader because he kickstarted the German Economy by invading Europe. I mean look at his accomplishments:

• He built a great railroad;
• He put Volkswagon on the map; and
• His rocket scientists were the fore-fathers of space travel.

I mean sure, he killed six milion Jews and created a global conflict, but you can't dispute that he liked puppies and was a painter and an author. So, he was a great leader, because you can't have it both ways.

Extreme comparison?

Yes, absolutely, but then I'm speaking to an extreme left winger who sees no fault in his political icons.

I get a kick out of the Hard Left and Right types, there's no middle ground, no compromise and attempting to discuss or debate with them is like negotiating a land deal with a bowl of marshmallows.

For the record, yes, you can have it both ways. You can attribute the good and the bad. Unfortunately, you are so entrenched in your political leaning that you see only black or white.



O'Leary is not a Canadian Trump; even though those who fear him will try and frame him that way.

No I don't but I do realize how ridiculous your addlepated comment is. You are certainly right about your comparison. It is so extreme that describing it as moronic is a major understatement. You have no idea how I vote. In fact I haven't voted Liberal for five decades, but you of course know how everyone thinks.

Black and white political leanings? - Unlike yourself I go for what works, not what my dogmatic political ideology tells me to think. I'm sorry that my comment rained on your historical revisionist parade. Apparently I touched a nerve considering how extreme your reaction to a minor comment is. Too bad - you spout thoughtless Schitt and it gets flushed.

Maybe he could be graded about 60%, he dumped a lot of sh*t on the provinces and there were suggestions he was in conflict of interest over his own investments. Perhaps he was honest w/o giving the perception of honesty. I'm sure there are some who could provide an accurate assessment. Someone has to take the hit for the Sponsorship scandal, I guess!

I'm not supporting Martin. I don't vote for Canada's "natural" party. The Liberals have always had too many connections with the moneyed elite for my liking. It is a legacy that apparently even the current PM cannot shake. However, I have no problem pointing out the fact that Martin may have gotten one thing right when he was finance minister.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Do you have any comprehension of how ridiculous that statement is?

It's like saying that Hitler was a great leader because he kickstarted the German Economy by invading Europe. I mean look at his accomplishments:

• He built a great railroad;
• He put Volkswagon on the map; and
• His rocket scientists were the fore-fathers of space travel.

I mean sure, he killed six milion Jews and created a global conflict, but you can't dispute that he liked puppies and was a painter and an author. So, he was a great leader, because you can't have it both ways.

Extreme comparison?

Yes, absolutely, but then I'm speaking to an extreme left winger who sees no fault in his political icons.

I get a kick out of the Hard Left and Right types, there's no middle ground, no compromise and attempting to discuss or debate with them is like negotiating a land deal with a bowl of marshmallows.

For the record, yes, you can have it both ways. You can attribute the good and the bad. Unfortunately, you are so entrenched in your political leaning that you see only black or white.



O'Leary is not a Canadian Trump; even though those who fear him will try and frame him that way.

He is not electable.

I thought this was right on


Out here in Alberta the brand of Conservative is like no other,I can't wait to see how mr O'Leary talks to Rural Albertans
How I view it supporting Mr .Oleary fake or not is the way for me to go regarding the race,safe place

Rural Alberta is a teeny, tiny part of the Canadian population and however mucyph you love him, Urban Canadians won't, most likely. You will end up turning thecurrent version of the Conservative Party back into a regional rump, like it's Reform Party predecessor.

 

[Danbones]

mucyph

BULLSH!TTER..^
lol, the punctuation, grammer, and spell NAZI who can't spell
too much
hypottwyt

 

[tay]

Dear Premier Wynne: I Would Have Fired You Long Ago

Dear Premier Wynne,

Thank you for your letter. I have been writing you for a while now and was getting worried you were never going to write back.

I'm getting involved in the Conservative leadership race because I can't stand watching incompetent politicians destroy my country.


Dear Premier Wynne: I Would Have Fired You Long Ago*|*Kevin O'Leary

I'm glad O'Leary wrote this response to keep Wynnetario and Trudeau on their toes. I disagree with him including Notley because Oilberta is a one product province at the immediate whim of the Muslim Cartel known as OPEC

But everything he says is not based on facts. I guess it's Canada's turn for alternate facts.

Fact check:

In an open letter, Wynne took issue with O'Leary's claims that Ontario's tax rate was uncompetitive and would drive investment to neighbouring Michigan, which he said had a much lower tax rate and no regulations.

This one earns a rating of "full of baloney" -- the statement is completely inaccurate. Here's why.

Fact check: Is Michigan a threat to economic investment in Ontario? | CTV News


Alternative facts are the disruptive innovation of politics — less factual than the facts, but just enough truthiness to make the sale and club the competition

https://www.thestar.com/news/queens...-oleary-is-a-gift-to-kathleen-wynne-cohn.html

 

[JLM]

Martin was the best finance minister we've had in several decades.

That's debatable and if true is not necessarily saying a hell of a lot!

 

[EagleSmack]

BULLSH!TTER..^
lol, the punctuation, grammer, and spell NAZI who can't spell
too much
hypottwyt

LOLz

 

[taxslave]

I'm glad O'Leary wrote this response to keep Wynnetario and Trudeau on their toes. I disagree with him including Notley because Oilberta is a one product province at the immediate whim of the Muslim Cartel known as OPEC

But everything he says is not based on facts. I guess it's Canada's turn for alternate facts.

Fact check:

In an open letter, Wynne took issue with O'Leary's claims that Ontario's tax rate was uncompetitive and would drive investment to neighbouring Michigan, which he said had a much lower tax rate and no regulations.

This one earns a rating of "full of baloney" -- the statement is completely inaccurate. Here's why.

Fact check: Is Michigan a threat to economic investment in Ontario? | CTV News


Alternative facts are the disruptive innovation of politics — less factual than the facts, but just enough truthiness to make the sale and club the competition

https://www.thestar.com/news/queens...-oleary-is-a-gift-to-kathleen-wynne-cohn.html

They neglected to add in Municipal taxes and regulations. The timeframe to get a construction permit? What about union presence? Would this be deliberate to get the answer they were looking for? What about the cost of power? Methinks their baloney meter is full of baloney.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

No I don't but I do realize how ridiculous your addlepated comment is. You are certainly right about your comparison. It is so extreme that describing it as moronic is a major understatement. You have no idea how I vote. In fact I haven't voted Liberal for five decades, but you of course know how everyone thinks.

Black and white political leanings? - Unlike yourself I go for what works, not what my dogmatic political ideology tells me to think. I'm sorry that my comment rained on your historical revisionist parade. Apparently I touched a nerve considering how extreme your reaction to a minor comment is. Too bad - you spout thoughtless Schitt and it gets flushed.

I'm not supporting Martin. I don't vote for Canada's "natural" party. The Liberals have always had too many connections with the moneyed elite for my liking. It is a legacy that apparently even the current PM cannot shake. However, I have no problem pointing out the fact that Martin may have gotten one thing right when he was finance minister.

One thing right? I thought you can't have it both ways?

By the way B.S., you didn't touch a nerve at all. You just set yourself up to look like a close minded fool with blinders on. I guess I must have touched a nerve because you are suddenly in full back pedal mode because you're not having it both ways statement is ridiculous.

What did you say when you returned? I am here to take all the right wing neo-cons to task, or words to that affect. You set a tone and presented yourself as an extreme from the get go.

My historical revisionist parade. Ha! Man, that's a laugh coming from you, "Monsieur Can't Have it Both Ways."

Unlike you, I have an open mind and will not look the other way and defend a leader just because we share in some of the same values.

What I said about Martin is a matter of record, what you said about not having it both ways is a matter of opinion. Poorly thought out opinion, by the way, but carry with your back pedal or ignore this post altogether.

 

[coldstream]

Anyone calling for a "Trump-Like" candidate to lead Canada might want to consider a change of citizenship, because, brother, that ain't never gonna happen here.

It's inevitable. The entire West is in the grips of a populist and nationalist resurgence. If we don't get onboard, we'll be left in a economic stagnation and depression of our own making.

Trudeau is a moron, completely incapable of steering Canada through crises. He's adrift, rudderless, compassless in the turbulent seas of the failure of the post structural economy and society that is evident for with eyes to see.

All Justin has is his mother's book of the wisdom of Timothy Leary read through his rose coloured flowerchild glasses. He's utterly hopeless and incompetent.

 

[Mowich]

I do not want to see the Conservative party to go down in flames because a vocal minority thinks that a Canadian Trump is a peachy-keen idea.
It's suicidal. Canadians are not that angry. They are not at all angry in most of the country and the anger in Alberta will dissipate when the oil industry picks up, again.

Kevin O'Leary is not a Canadian Trump, CC - that is so disingenuous. You don't like Kevin and that is just fine - attack him on points not by calling him names - it demeans your arguments which are for the most part right on point.

I would much rather see Rona be allowed to run but as that is not going to happen, then Kevin is the one I will be supporting.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

It's inevitable. The entire West is in the grips of a populist and nationalist resurgence. If we don't get onboard, we'll be left in a economic stagnation and depression of our own making.

As far as the United States goes, we are going from one protectionist President to the next. While I think we need a strong leader to represent the country, I'm doubtful that we will be shut out due to political difference.

Trudeau is a moron, completely incapable of steering Canada through crises. He's adrift, rudderless, compassless in the turbulent seas of the failure of the post structural economy and society that is evident for with eyes to see.

He's not a moron in the definition of the word, but he is absolutely unqualified to be Prime Minster.

All Justin has is his mother's book of the wisdom of Timothy Leary read through his rose coloured flowerchild glasses. He's utterly hopeless and incompetent.

On this we agree. He rode into the leadership of the Liberal Party of Canada on the coat tails of his father's name. Love him or hate him, Pierre Trudeau was a leader and a seasoned politician. His son, on the other hand lacks the experience and mettle to lead Canada in a global economy. He has to go.

The only way he will be unseated at this point is by an opposition leader that will take him down on his failures. What we don't need in the Conservative party is another far right wing leader who will be labeled as either racist, bigoted, homophobic or anti-abortion. Those are the tools of retaliation enlisted by the Liberal Party of Canada and they have been effective measures used to frame up a leader in the past.

The swing from left to right will require a Progressive Conservative who understands that employment and the economy are key concerns of Canadians. I think O'Leary will have that ability by disarming the Liberals of their usual "smear and fear antics" by getting out in front of these accusations before they are leveled.

As to what we need as a leader. We don't have to love our leader or think he's pretty or charismatic, we need someone who is going to stand up for us and fight the good fight in trade negotiations and not sell out to special interest.

 

[TenPenny]

The swing from left to right will require a Progressive Conservative who understands that employment and the economy are key concerns of Canadians.

I agree wholeheartedly with that statement.


Like many, I was not impressed with the demise of the PROGRESSIVE Conservative party.

 

[DaSleeper]

While I agree with the above two statements' reasoning, my vote will be useless in my district, unless the party puts a convincing conservative representative...
People around here would elect a farmer's milk cow if it was nominated under the NDP banner!

 

[JLM]

Kevin O'Leary is not a Canadian Trump, CC - that is so disingenuous. You don't like Kevin and that is just fine - attack him on points not by calling him names - it demeans your arguments which are for the most part right on point.

I would much rather see Rona be allowed to run but as that is not going to happen, then Kevin is the one I will be supporting.

I think Kevin (from what I've seen on T.V.) is a very bright man, but does he belong in the Political Arena? I'm not convinced!

 

[Curious Cdn]

Kevin O'Leary is not a Canadian Trump, CC - that is so disingenuous. You don't like Kevin and that is just fine - attack him on points not by calling him names - it demeans your arguments which are for the most part right on point.

I would much rather see Rona be allowed to run but as that is not going to happen, then Kevin is the one I will be supporting.

Disingenuous .... hmmmm...I don't think that O'Leary and Trump are a one-to-one swap, by any means. I certainly didn't invent the idea of a Canadian Trump. Here's the thing, and you have to think about this, a bit. That is exactly the way that O'Leary sees HIMSELF ... or at least, how he wants us to see him. Why I say that is because of the timing of his announcement to run. It was immediately after Donald Trump's inaugeration, within hours. O'Leary is obviously highly intelligent and of advance marketing savvy. He wouldn't have done that has he not wanted to associate himself with the Trump brand. He likely sees Trump as arising star and he wants to be part of that greater movement. Be assured that it wasn't a wild coincidence.

There are similarities between Trump and O'Leary and differences. Here are some of the differences that I see. O'Leary is a self-made man and a real entrepreneur. Whatever he is is because of his own talent. Trump is third generation wealth, not an entrepreneur but more of a impresario. O'Leary is of recent immigrant parents who is clearly not anti immigrant or anti-Arab. Trump's mother was an immigrant but he seems to prefer white immigrants, from what I've seen. O'Leary has never declared bankruptcy and to my knowledge, he has never made investor's money "disappear". Most importantly, to me anyway, is that O'Leary is sane. Today, Trump was DEMANDING of the Mexican President that Mexico "respects" the USA. aHe said to the affect, how can you possibly negotiate with such unreasonable people, after telling them that they were going to wall themselves out and spend 15 billion dollars to do it, after being ordered to do it. This guy is President of the United States. That behaviour is NOT presidential but it is deadly Hitlerian. Trump is a madman, not a maybe, he is mentally ill.

Similarities ...They are both fast talking, brash, Type "A" my-way-or-the-highway types. Neither of them have done any sort of public service at all of any kind, previously. Trump evaded the draft and did not serve in the military. I wouldn't have expected O'Leary to have done so, either as people who have in this country are very thin on the ground. I can only think of two current Canadian politicians who did and they are both currently Liberal Cabinet Ministers ... Harjit Singh Sajjan and Marc Garneau. Anyway, neither O'Leary nor Trump have ever sat on a school board, in a legislature, worked at a food bank, led a Boy Scout troop, probably ever collected for a real charity. Most politicians start into politics from public service launch pads such as this and they want to affect change at a higher level. Kelly Leitch is a medical doctor. I consider that to be public service at a high level. Trump ... O'Leary ... not a chance.

 

[JLM]

Neither of them have done any sort of public service at all of any kind, previously. Trump evaded the draft and did not serve in the military. I wouldn't have expected O'Leary to have done so, either aspeople who have in this country are very thin on the ground.I can only think of two current Canadian politicians who did and they are both currently Liberal Cabinet Ministers ... Harjit Singh Sajjan and Marc Garneau. Anyway, neither O'Leary nor Trump have ever eat one school board, in a legislature, worked at a food bank, led a Boy Scout troop, probably ever collected for a real charity. Most politicians start into politics from public service launch pads such as this and they want to affect change at a higher level. Kelly Leitch is a medical doctor. I consider that to be public service at a high level. Trump ... O'Leary ... not a chance.

A little off topic, but possibly a good time to bring it up. You hear a lot from time to time about someone dodging/evading the draft, like it's a bad thing. I think a person should serve where they can do the most good and be of the most use. Some people don't have the killer instinct and don't want to kill or be killed..................nothing wrong with that. I think there's enough ways to be useful to pretty well accommodate every body.

 

[Remington1]

I liked his letter, but I'm waiting to see the candidates in a debate. If I decide to go right, I would say Leitch still appears a better candidate. The intention for myself would be to stop JT, I do not agree with leaving the kids with a huge deficit that will have them pay exorbitant taxes for their entire life.