That's because the facts don't fit with your dogma. Try reading a bit. Orif google is to hard for you ask Loc and he will give you some links. IF you are actually interested in truth.
Trump may be a 'clown,' but he was right about the media
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That's because the facts don't fit with your dogma. Try reading a bit. Orif google is to hard for you ask Loc and he will give you some links. IF you are actually interested in truth.
"Whatever your preferred term, a political spokesperson's job is to bend his or her politician's words into a passable version of the truth. It's not a job for the faint-hearted; it's full of pressure, the positions you defend can be obnoxious and you labour away under the sword of Damocles or, rather, its modern equivalent: the fast-moving bus. It's also an industry Donald Trump is hammering out of existence with his brazen assault on political and media norms.
Spinning for Trump must be as terrifying as it is useless. How do you front insanity? How can you claim to speak for someone who lashes out spontaneously — and unsupervised — on Twitter at every slight, whether real or perceived? Who holds the position of whoever last sat on him? The West Wing is nice and all, but so is your dignity. With Trump, there is literally nothing you can rule out having to defend.
Decades of skeletons
One of the pleasures of speaking on behalf of former prime minister Stephen Harper, I now realize, was never being forced to address rumours about alleged sexual activities at the Moscow Ritz Carlton. Thank you, sir, for leading a much simpler life.
Trump's surrogates, on the other hand, have 70 years of skeletons to spin. It takes a certain je ne sais quoi. I would say it was rather Orwellian to watch senior Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway fling mud, poop and anything else at hand at CNN's Anderson Cooper in an interview last week, as they sparred over what Trump "kompromat" briefing materials did or did not exist, but even Orwell's math tapped out at relatively sane 2+2=5. How does one argue with someone who isn't tethered to reality, who will lie with impunity?
'Quite an entanglement': Donald Trump and his potential conflicts of interest
The only skill needed to spin for Trump is a total lack of shame. Down is the new up, the sky isn't blue, and screw you for thinking otherwise, you mainstream news media lackey. What's worse, after having debased yourself, the great man will, more often than not, tweet that your bravura interpretation of his antics wasn't, in fact, correct. He really did mean whatever insane thing he tweeted that morning. Like, for example, that wacky time Sean Spicer, Trump's press secretary, spent a day on television arguing that Trump's tweeted call for a new nuclear arms race was really a call for the status quo, only for a clip to surface of Trump on MSNBC saying, clear as a bell, "let it be an arms race.""
"The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes
— @realDonaldTrump
And instead of being outraged at this real-time discreditation, his spokespeople instead return on bended knee to Trump Tower for their next humiliation. It defies convention.
The politician-spokesperson pas de deux is usually a delicate dance, one that relies on full disclosure and total confidence in each other. It doesn't work if you joust in public. Most spokespeople get one, or maybe two chances to be caught completely off guard by their guy. If it happens more often, the press are perfectly within their right to question your utility.
Whatever thimbleful of power I had in Harper's Ottawa flowed from the simple fact that I spoke for Stephen Harper. The press knew he couldn't speak to them every day — or any day — and so I was it. The second I didn't speak for him — or was perceived as not speaking for him — I wouldn't be of any use to him, or anybody else.
Corrosive communications
To hear Sean Spicer, Trump's press secretary, admit that his first stop each day is @realDonaldTrump to see what he'll be defending is totally backwards. You can't do the job knowing the same or less about your guy and his or her thinking than the press that's there to challenge your leader.
This is where Team Trump's total lack of shame is horribly — and deliberately — corrosive. They aren't there to engage in the healthy back-and-forth between government and the press. They're there to provoke the kind of hysterics that usually end up discrediting the media. And if they themselves are discredited in the process too, well, that's just the cost of doing business.
If this sounds incredibly inside-baseball: it is. But its effects will be felt right across the country. Trump was elected, in part, because of a deep dissatisfaction with the way politics was practiced. By dipping convention in acid they're erasing, not fixing or replacing, a troubled system.
But that's the point. Trump has never enjoyed being held to account. He knows the media are struggling financially and with perceptions of bias. Anything he can do to further their journey down the current trajectory will absolve him of needed scrutiny as he pushes deeper into his first term.
The successful end point for Team Trump is when nobody believes anything anybody says about Washington. This puts his press team's task in a stark light: their mission is to birth a new normal, leaving only suckers to observe the traditional rules of the game.
They're off to a flying start.
"
Spinning for Trump must be as terrifying as it is useless. How do you front insanity? How can you claim to speak for someone who lashes out spontaneously — and unsupervised — on Twitter at every slight, whether real or perceived? Who holds the position of whoever last sat on him? The West Wing is nice and all, but so is your dignity. With Trump, there is literally nothing you can rule out having to defend.
Decades of skeletons
One of the pleasures of speaking on behalf of former prime minister Stephen Harper, I now realize, was never being forced to address rumours about alleged sexual activities at the Moscow Ritz Carlton. Thank you, sir, for leading a much simpler life.
Trump's surrogates, on the other hand, have 70 years of skeletons to spin. It takes a certain je ne sais quoi. I would say it was rather Orwellian to watch senior Trump advisor Kellyanne Conway fling mud, poop and anything else at hand at CNN's Anderson Cooper in an interview last week, as they sparred over what Trump "kompromat" briefing materials did or did not exist, but even Orwell's math tapped out at relatively sane 2+2=5. How does one argue with someone who isn't tethered to reality, who will lie with impunity?
'Quite an entanglement': Donald Trump and his potential conflicts of interest
The only skill needed to spin for Trump is a total lack of shame. Down is the new up, the sky isn't blue, and screw you for thinking otherwise, you mainstream news media lackey. What's worse, after having debased yourself, the great man will, more often than not, tweet that your bravura interpretation of his antics wasn't, in fact, correct. He really did mean whatever insane thing he tweeted that morning. Like, for example, that wacky time Sean Spicer, Trump's press secretary, spent a day on television arguing that Trump's tweeted call for a new nuclear arms race was really a call for the status quo, only for a clip to surface of Trump on MSNBC saying, clear as a bell, "let it be an arms race.""
"The United States must greatly strengthen and expand its nuclear capability until such time as the world comes to its senses regarding nukes
— @realDonaldTrump
And instead of being outraged at this real-time discreditation, his spokespeople instead return on bended knee to Trump Tower for their next humiliation. It defies convention.
The politician-spokesperson pas de deux is usually a delicate dance, one that relies on full disclosure and total confidence in each other. It doesn't work if you joust in public. Most spokespeople get one, or maybe two chances to be caught completely off guard by their guy. If it happens more often, the press are perfectly within their right to question your utility.
Whatever thimbleful of power I had in Harper's Ottawa flowed from the simple fact that I spoke for Stephen Harper. The press knew he couldn't speak to them every day — or any day — and so I was it. The second I didn't speak for him — or was perceived as not speaking for him — I wouldn't be of any use to him, or anybody else.
Corrosive communications
To hear Sean Spicer, Trump's press secretary, admit that his first stop each day is @realDonaldTrump to see what he'll be defending is totally backwards. You can't do the job knowing the same or less about your guy and his or her thinking than the press that's there to challenge your leader.
This is where Team Trump's total lack of shame is horribly — and deliberately — corrosive. They aren't there to engage in the healthy back-and-forth between government and the press. They're there to provoke the kind of hysterics that usually end up discrediting the media. And if they themselves are discredited in the process too, well, that's just the cost of doing business.
If this sounds incredibly inside-baseball: it is. But its effects will be felt right across the country. Trump was elected, in part, because of a deep dissatisfaction with the way politics was practiced. By dipping convention in acid they're erasing, not fixing or replacing, a troubled system.
But that's the point. Trump has never enjoyed being held to account. He knows the media are struggling financially and with perceptions of bias. Anything he can do to further their journey down the current trajectory will absolve him of needed scrutiny as he pushes deeper into his first term.
The successful end point for Team Trump is when nobody believes anything anybody says about Washington. This puts his press team's task in a stark light: their mission is to birth a new normal, leaving only suckers to observe the traditional rules of the game.
They're off to a flying start.
"
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You can make all the disparaging remarks you want about Trump, but it's not going to change the fact that he did what he thought he had to do to become President and apparently it worked. I don't find him to be a likeable person by any stretch of the imagination and he doesn't really give a sh*t about that, but you can't sell him short on his gumption, sagacity and moxie or the fact that he's his own man. Regardless of all the above, better him than whiny, supercilious Hillary!
(Get used to him)Do you know who wrote that article, Dumbones?
Some libtard Fuctard?
You can make all the disparaging remarks you want about Trump, but it's not going to change the fact that he did what he thought he had to do to become President and apparently it worked. I don't find him to be a likeable person by any stretch of the imagination and he doesn't really give a sh*t about that, but you can't sell him short on his gumption, sagacity and moxie or the fact that he's his own man. Regardless of all the above, better him than whiny, supercilious Hillary!
Sure! He stole an election with the help of his Russian handlers! Now he has to pay the tab: End NATO, recall Americans troops in Poland, end those sanctions against Russia for that silly Crimea, Ukraine invasion silliness.
.. or maybe, we get to see "the video"!
No he won the election by receiving the correctly marked ballots in the parts of the country where they counted.
... out in the boondocks. Apparently, the urban vote for Clinton was 35 million more than that of Trump. It's too bad the Trump doesn't represent even half of America (check his approval rating, today... 45% lowest ever before an inaugeration)
...stolen election is going to bite him in the a55 from day 1.
"While Clinton received about 2.9 million more votes nationwide, a margin of 2.1% of the total cast, Trump won a decisive victory in the Electoral College, winning 30 states with 306 pledged electors out of 538."
Yeah, right, perhaps you should get your facts straight before posting!
"While Clinton received about 2.9 million more votes nationwide, a margin of 2.1% of the total cast, Trump won a decisive victory in the Electoral College, winning 30 states with 306 pledged electors out of 538."
Yeah, right, perhaps you should get your facts straight before posting!
Trump is president, barring a bullet, Russian bullet. This Civil War will be fun to watch on TV.
"While Clinton received about 2.9 million more votes nationwide, a margin of 2.1% of the total cast, Trump won a decisive victory in the Electoral College, winning 30 states with 306 pledged electors out of 538."
Yeah, right, perhaps you should get your facts straight before posting!
You know, there is some idiot on a nther thread claiming that you're wrong wrong wrong and that Trump won the popular vote by the same 3 million amount!
I watched a few minutes of CBC news this evenring, I won't do that again for a while, If ever.neuoozze, an electronic labotomy.
Plan B should be activated.
Plan B should be activated.
I normally accept what I hear on the news and it looks like Hillary actually got more votes. Take California out of the mix and it's a different story. Anyway the Electoral College votes are what counts according to long established rules so my advice to the nay sayers is read 'em and weep!
You can make all the disparaging remarks you want about Trump, but it's not going to change the fact that he did what he thought he had to do to become President and apparently it worked. I don't find him to be a likeable person by any stretch of the imagination and he doesn't really give a sh*t about that, but you can't sell him short on his gumption, sagacity and moxie or the fact that he's his own man. Regardless of all the above, better him than whiny, supercilious Hillary!
I guess it depends whether or not you want a president who likes to have prostitutes urinate while he watches.
it was written by Steven Harper's Director of Communications and he used to do the very job that he is commenting on.
Andrew MacDougall is a Canadian-British national based in London who writes about politics and current affairs. He was previously director of communications for former Canadian prime minister Stephen Harper
Obviously, another fuctard, libtard dem-dum looney-tooney obamie-commie Socislist Conservative Party press secretary.
Number one do we KNOW that? (First I've heard of it) Number two, I don't think it's illegal AND how does that affect his ability to do his job? You might want to take a look at some Canadian past history. W.L.M. King had some pretty weird fetishes. Let's just concern ourselves with Trump's ability and performance on the job. If he wants to take an hour on his own time to watch willing prostitutes urinate, it's fine by me. It's NOT really my "thing".
WAAAAA . Curious Canadian's response when he found out America isn't a democracy > Waaaaa
Where's my mommy ? Trump Trump Trump ..Waaaa mommy . waaaa .
Don't you ?
that was some con jecture
what no link in the post - you posted it like it was your own?
...and it was the smartest thing you Never wrote yourself too
you are a total plagerizing goof
gee...
Well, that turned out to be a fat wopping lie.
You fell for it?
lol
Sad, they don't teach critical thinking in school any more
Upon further thought about B.S.s revelation about watching prostitutes pissing, I'm wondering how their occupation becomes a salient part of the story. If they were waitresses or secretaries would it be any better or worse? Maybe "women urinating" would be sufficient details. If there is in fact any truth to the story whatsoever!
Yeah, his credibility (as I have suspected for some time) is starting to get a little shaky, methinks.
PIERS MORGAN: The only hookers in Trump story are the cheap, lazy journalists | Daily Mail Online
TrudOWE doesn't represent even half of Canada so what's your point? TrudOWe doesn't even have an approval rating in the West.
Whoever said that?