2016 Presidential Campaign

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Rod Liddle

Rod Liddle
10 November 2016
The Spectator

Racists, homophobes and bigots decided the result of the US presidential election. Racists, homophobes and bigots are not democratic, and therefore the result of the election is not valid.

Therefore I would enjoin you all to demand a second US election, this time where the votes of racists, homophobes and bigots are not counted. Also homophones – I don’t like them, either. A bear is obviously a large growly animal. Whereas to be ‘bare’ means to have no clothes on. This is demeaning to both bears and people who have no clothes on.

So I would ask you to sign my petition for a second US election, immediately, so that next time we can arrive at the right result.

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Sixty people have signed it so far!

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Racists, homophobes and bigots decided the result of the US presidential election. Racists, homophobes and bigots are not democratic, and therefore the result of the election is not valid.

There is no ideological test for the franchise in the U.S. Racists, homophobes and bigots have every right to vote, stand for office, and win if they can.

And they did. Deal with it.

 

[Dixie Cup]

I enough so-called "non racists, homophobes and bigots" voted for Hillary this wouldn't be an issue would it?


Just sayin'.....

 

[Cannuck]

Trump will be a one term prez. The crusty old farts will turn on him when he doesn't make America great again.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Trump will be a one term prez. The crusty old farts will turn on him when he doesn't make America great again.

As long as there are non-whites in the U.S., he'll have a constituency.

 

[Danbones]

subtract the vote fraud it was prolly 20 for disthillary, 80 for trump
subtract the crooked mainstream media, and bought and paid for social media commentators, and shillarry would have likely been voted right off the island

 

[Locutus]

this is quite enjoyable. :lol:

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

What democratic process? The Dumpster got fewer votes than Clinton. The US now has had two of its last three presidents elected undemocratically. It may be time for Americans to think about the way that they choose the most powerful person on the planet. And I don't have to get behind him - I'm not an American.



Please name one of the great ideas.




You are right there. I doubt either Trump of Clinton would have a chance in Canada; especially as much of Trump's rhetoric violates Canada's anti-hate laws.

The electoral college makes presidents actually travel to parts of the country like Iowa and Wisconsin (unless your a democrat of course where you just drop that meaningless state off your tour list) rather than spending the entire campaign in New York and California. It's not perfect but hey we elected our PM with 39% which is even worse so who are we to complain?

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The electoral college makes presidents actually travel to parts of the country like Iowa and Wisconsin (unless your a democrat of course where you just drop that meaningless state off your tour list) rather than spending the entire campaign in New York and California. It's not perfect but hey we elected our PM with 39% which is even worse so who are we to complain?

The foregoing is incorrect, except for the last sentence.

 

[davesmom]

I'm so bloody sick of this 'bigot/homophobe/xenoophobia' talk! What's wrong with all the groups who think they deserve special recognition just being happy to be Americans?
Donald Trump is going to be President. Suck it up, losers and get with the program!
They whine about intolerance and then demonstrate it in the most disgusting way by carrying on protests against what is over and done.
Nothing constructive can ever be accomplished by any government as long as there are people with negative attitudes fighting against every new idea without thinking it over first and either looking forward positively or offering better solutions.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I'm so bloody sick of this 'bigot/homophobe/xenoophobia' talk!

I know. What's wrong with the traditional "Klan?"

I think it's the liberal tendency to prefer multi-syllable words.

Donald Trump is going to be President. Suck it up, losers and get with the program!

Or else.

 

[Cannuck]

As long as there are non-whites in the U.S., he'll have a constituency.

I think the racism issue has been overplayed. I think it's generally fear. A huge chunk of Hillary's support was from fearful people as well. Trump and Hillary supporters just fear different things but I doubt the Donald will actually be able to do much to allay the fears of his supporters. He's not going to get a ton of support from the Senate or Congress. His economic policies are too left-wing.

 

[Blackleaf]

There is no ideological test for the franchise in the U.S. Racists, homophobes and bigots have every right to vote, stand for office, and win if they can.

And they did. Deal with it.

It's a joke; a sarcastic Spectator article.

Liberals are actually taking to social media saying things like: "Worst day in America is 9/11... second worst is 11/9."

It's a bit confusing, though, because to us Brits (we put the date the right way around rather than back to front) 9/11is 9th November and 11/9 is 11th September.

 

[Cannuck]

It's a bit confusing, though....

Confused Brits. Whouda guessed.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I think the racism issue has been overplayed. I think it's generally fear.

I agree. In the United States, race issues are the most visible symptom of fear. The civil rights movement came during a time of unprecedented prosperity, as the U.S. was the only major industrial country that hadn't suffered enormous damage due to the war. Therefore, fifteen years of demand that had been suppressed by the Depression and the priorities of the war came roaring out, and who was in position to take advantage? The Arsenal of Democracy became the Arsenal of Goods. There launched a wave of prosperity so huge that a man could drop out of high school and get an unskilled job at the local factory, and make enough money to afford a house, a non-earning wife, two cars, three kids, and college tuition for same. The reason the U.S. is the only country that didn't establish national health in the postwar period is that we were so rich that the overwhelming majority could easily afford health care, and the few who couldn't either could be cared for by charity or belonged to groups who receive no notice. As our economic condition returned to normal, a generation that had known nothing but boom saw it as decline, got scared, and started hunkering down. Such hunkering down always prominently features an "us v. them" mindset. In the U.S. it's racial. In Canada, linguistic. In the UK it's which sect of the same religion one belongs to. In Germany, notions of racial purity. In Russia, it's the Great Russians v. everybody (and subgroups of everybody v. each other). If you track economic conditions, you will see that race relations in the U.S. parallel them.

A huge chunk of Hillary's support was from fearful people as well.

I disagree. The messages of the two campaigns, boiled down to two-word statements, were "Everything sucks" and "Everything's OK." Fearful people prefer the former message.

Trump and Hillary supporters just fear different things but I doubt the Donald will actually be able to do much to allay the fears of his supporters.

Having the instincts and experience of a grifter, Trump clearly sees that stoking, not allaying, the fears of his supporters is his path to continued power. So why the heck would he try to allay them?

He's not going to get a ton of support from the Senate or Congress. His economic policies are too left-wing.

The Senate and the House are currently fighting over who gets to kiss his backside first and longest. Look at Paul Ryan. Remember? The guy who said he would not support or campaign for Trump is now hailing him as the Dear Leader.

Time to wake up, son. Principles, ideologies, and policies are strictly back seat. Attaining and retaining power wins every time. Every swinging dick in the party thought they were in for an a$s-kicking of epic proportions. Instead they pulled off one of the greatest victories, and certainly the most amazing upset, in American political history. They think Trump is the Messiah because for them he is.

 

[Remington1]

I say that if someone gives you something on a plate that is the biggest favour ever done for you, who need to reciprocate. So first, Trump needs to pardon Assange, so he can move in with their friend Putin. Second, some of his biggest a#$ kissers, first is Rudi who is still looking to prosecute Clinton, which is going against the FBI, he needs to be told to curb his words until the population settles down a bit, such bad judgement!!. Total fools, him and the Newt, seriously!! Just saying!! I hope these old men have a really good 4 years (maybe more). It will be interesting to watch.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I say that if someone gives you something on a plate that is the biggest favour ever done for you, who need to reciprocate. So first, Trump needs to pardon Assange, so he can move in with their friend Putin. Second, some of his biggest a#$ kissers, first is Rudi who is still looking to prosecute Clinton, which is going against the FBI, he needs to be told to curb his words until the population settles down a bit, such bad judgement!!. Total fools, him and the Newt, seriously!! Just saying!! I hope these old men have a really good 4 years (maybe more). It will be interesting to watch.

Yes, but that's you. Is there anything in Trump's history, speeches, or positions (such as they are) that leads you to believe he has any notion of reciprocity?

If so, I'd be fascinated to hear what that might be. If not, get used to your notions of fundamental fairness not being met.

 

[Cliffy]

 

[DaSleeper]

First Cliffy commiserates with natives.....and now It's Democrats....

 

[Kreskin]

Trump has given the Republican party a chance to capture very non-traditional support. Perhaps for more than just this election if the employment picture strengthens over the next 4+ years. For example, a family friend is a union rep (yes some unions still exist) and I know he was rooting for Trump. No he wasn't in a rush to see minorities kicked out. He's not American either. But what resonated with him, and I suspect resonated across party lines and borders, was the promise to bring jobs back. Protectionism would be a boost to their own industry and own jobs.