Why Trudeau is no friend of labour
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Really? I never got any kind of trades or professional certification before obtaining my high school diploma, likewise for everyone else on my family. For me, it was all in post-compulsory education. I was in BC. So maybe it varies by province or jurisdiction?
Or maybe in some school districts it is more recent?
Given unskilled labour, obviously they are not doing a good job of it.
You won't get a ticket. You get pre-employment skills. Where did I ever say anything about certificates?
Sorry. I was saying you should get a ticket of some kind. Chef, electrician, bookkeeper, you name it. If they stopped wasting time teaching about pop-and-pop families and other time wastage, there would be time to do it.
There is that too. If French were easy enough to learn well by the end of high school, it would make sense to make it compulsory in all schools. But given how difficult a language it is, it ought to be regarded as a specialisation for those students who want to specialise in it.
Another way to save time in public schools is to blend courses.
For example, in schools that teach religious studies, why not combine English literature with religious studies by teaching the elegance of style of the KJV or Rodwell's translation of the Koran through selected passages from these books in the English literature course.
We could blend English literature and history in a similar manner by teaching students the elements of Gibbon's style through his History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire in the history course. This overlapping whereby students learn religious literature in an elegant literary translation in the English literature course and elements of English classical prose in the history course would promote more efficient use of time and so allow the school to drop the religious education course altogether while still teaching the essentials of religious literature and having students learn English, religious, and historical literature all as part of an integrated literature and history education while still learning at least the essentials of history.
The time saved from this would free up even more time for trades and professional education courses.
Music class could also be integrated in this. For example, students could learn to play Renaissance and Baroque era recorder music. It's an easy instrument to learn to play and adding the historical component blends music and history class. Learning any other instrument would be viewed as a specialization just like French.
PE could be blended with learning a martial art (useful in some jobs like police officer for example) as an alternative to the traditional PE class.
We could at least explore the possibility of blending physics with electrical technology, though maybe more as a specialisation for interested students.
I might be wrong on much of the above, but I'm sure if we cut out the fat of less essential knowledge, it could free up more time for more useful knowledge.
To learn a second language well enough for it to be practical in a trade or professional? Most are quite difficult to learn to that level, unless we're talking about a language that is easy to learn by design or if language becomes the student's specialisation.
Bear in mind though that I'm playing devil's advocate here in imagining that the student will have to use his skills in the job market right after graduating from high school.
I understand many will continue on to college, but I'm thinking more about those who can't go on to college. For them, it's essential that what they learn in high school can already get them at least decent work.
For example, in schools that teach religious studies, why not combine English literature with religious studies by teaching the elegance of style of the KJV or Rodwell's translation of the Koran through selected passages from these books in the English literature course.
We could blend English literature and history in a similar manner by teaching students the elements of Gibbon's style through his History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire in the history course. This overlapping whereby students learn religious literature in an elegant literary translation in the English literature course and elements of English classical prose in the history course would promote more efficient use of time and so allow the school to drop the religious education course altogether while still teaching the essentials of religious literature and having students learn English, religious, and historical literature all as part of an integrated literature and history education while still learning at least the essentials of history.
The time saved from this would free up even more time for trades and professional education courses.
Music class could also be integrated in this. For example, students could learn to play Renaissance and Baroque era recorder music. It's an easy instrument to learn to play and adding the historical component blends music and history class. Learning any other instrument would be viewed as a specialization just like French.
PE could be blended with learning a martial art (useful in some jobs like police officer for example) as an alternative to the traditional PE class.
We could at least explore the possibility of blending physics with electrical technology, though maybe more as a specialisation for interested students.
I might be wrong on much of the above, but I'm sure if we cut out the fat of less essential knowledge, it could free up more time for more useful knowledge.
To learn a second language well enough for it to be practical in a trade or professional? Most are quite difficult to learn to that level, unless we're talking about a language that is easy to learn by design or if language becomes the student's specialisation.
Bear in mind though that I'm playing devil's advocate here in imagining that the student will have to use his skills in the job market right after graduating from high school.
I understand many will continue on to college, but I'm thinking more about those who can't go on to college. For them, it's essential that what they learn in high school can already get them at least decent work.
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You can probably get lots of "mileage" out of "oui", "non" and "f**k off", maybe s'il vous plait and merci!
With a fat wallet, just stay at all the English-speaking hotels. Done.
But you need a job before you can travel. On that point, public schools should not be teaching tourist French. If a student has the aptitude and the interest to specialise in French (and few do), then by all means do so. The rest should turn to something else.
To be clear, I'm not suggesting transforming public schools into trades and professional schools. I recognise the societal value of a well-rounded education including literature, history, physical education, civics education, sex education, home economics, science, music, arts, etc.
However, learning a trade or a profession should be an essential part of that. How can we call it a well-rounded education without that when not everyone will have the chance to go on to college.
That's what pre-employment skills are all about. Kid takes shop, gets a job and the employer doesn't need to teach the kid how to use a tape or explain what a 7016 rod is.
Since when? That comment shows just how far out of touch with reality you are. Historically right wing governments in Canada have handed out numerous tax breaks at both the corporate and private level, leaving Joe taxpayer to fund the difference.
Just not that simple. Many kids barely have life skills after graduation. Then there are all the ones that don't graduate.It is also difficult for most kids to decide what they want for a career when they are 14 or 15.There is also a limit to the number of apprentices industry can absorb every year.
There are some school districts that have been doing pre apprentice training in high school for at least 20 years in BC. But they still have to do an apprenticeship afterwards.
SInce at least the last 20 years. Fact: The NDP has officially opposed every single major project that my union brothers and sisters depend on to pay excessive taxes.
Maybe you should get out from under that rock you been hiding under and join the real world.