Let us be honest. Islam’s ideology is immoral to its core. Should we ask the Haigue a

French Patriot

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Interesting that at about the same period of time that this "Abram" came onto the scene with his deity, skirmishes began to proliferate, weapons of war started their development, I believe agriculture took a back seat to dividing and conquering and the good ole hunter gatherers changed their prey. Interesting time this so called "Axial' age. The beginning of civilization was anything but civil. Thanks Abe. Helluva guy.


No argument but I see agriculture as facilitating and encouraging the building of the fortified cities. Before that, there was no need for the fortifications that were required to protect the stored crops.


We worshiped Goddesses for about 20,000 years before the Bronze Age. That made it possible to create weapons powerful enough to promote wars and the cities decided to turn to the Gods of War as protection.


Those Gods are no longer required so I don't know why people follow those immoral Gods instead of looking for moral ones.


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DL

from the land of residential schools:
why don't all you olics and stants and lims and isms and unists and ews and eists
just relocate to Chinese mars, like the puritoons, and qwackers did, and leave the rest of mankind out of your deranged delusional death cults


That would be nice. Especially on our hands.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZZlo0WZ_iU&feature=youtu.be


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DL

We should ban all organized religion ... and political parties and unions and "think tanks" and anything else that encourages people to get lazy and trust someone else to do their thinking



I like that idea but do not like the idea of chaos.


We are rule and law following hierarchical creatures and need some type of structure in our lives.


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DL

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What's the Haigue?





Think about it instead of just taking a cheep shot. If it does not come to you, ask any child.


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DL


 

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Sure, submit lots of names and the evidence along with the paperwork and the public forum on Trump TV can follow along as the names have their day in Court. That turns in will just be the tip of the iceberg of how many will eventually face a trial where the viewing audience has the vote for a thumbs up of thumps down.
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Cherie, stupid is throwing around terms you can't define. Like "morality."
He should have an opinion of what 'immorality' is if your theory is correct.
Is this like like that 'Lord of the Flies' climax thing??
 

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Unfortunately, I think those who kill others for not believing what they believe will get a rude awakening when they die. If there's a hell, they'll be going there for sure, and guess what? There's not going to be 72 virgins waiting for them - SURPRISE!! LOL.

It's a stupid belief and unfortunately those who are indoctrinated to believe in such crap are those who have little or no education and are being used by men who are too cowardly to do the deed themselves. The so-called leaders are misogynists and psychopaths and that's who we need to defeat to keep this world safe, no matter what religious beliefs they may have.

JMHO

I agree, and I have seen their "religion" at work firsthand. I could not believe how slanted and backwards the common Muslim man was. My belief is their lack of education is the reason they act the way they do. Most trust local leaders and imams implicitly.

Let's be clear: there are numbers of uneducated Christians and Jews around the world, but they are not taught to physically punish or even kill non-believers or others who break the rules.

I could not believe how Muslims disciplined members of their own families. It's a harsh environment in which to live and their beliefs certainly are "my way or else". Do I think they are immoral? Yes, but I don't think the Hague can help much.
 

French Patriot

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You either have a definition of morality, or you don't. Ten bucks says your "definition" is just a bunch of rules cherry-picked mostly from the Judeo-Christian bible, and not a definition at all.



Canadians with your type of Alzheimer's should stay away from computers.


Since you cannot read the dictionary, let me give you something to listen to.


Turn up your hearing aid and get off your brain killing meds before you view the link.


It is likely too complicated for you and you will likely fall asleep hallway through it but it is the simplest and shortest I can find.


Jonathan Haidt: The moral roots of liberals and conservatives | TED Talk | TED.com


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DL
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Canadians with your type of Alzheimer's should stay away from computers.


Since you cannot read the dictionary, let me give you something to listen to.


Turn up your hearing aid and get off your brain killing meds before you view the link.


It is likely too complicated for you and you will likely fall asleep hallway through it but it is the simplest and shortest I can find.


Jonathan Haidt: The moral roots of liberals and conservatives | TED Talk | TED.com


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DL
You get your philosphy out of a dictionary?

Now we're back to "stupid." Not that we were ever far from it.

And I notice the one thing you're not doing to refute my statement is producing a working definition of morality.
 

French Patriot

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You get your philosphy out of a dictionary?

Now we're back to "stupid." Not that we were ever far from it.

And I notice the one thing you're not doing to refute my statement is producing a working definition of morality.



I just did.


Check your meds.


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DL
 

Murphy

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Prove me wrong my friend.

Defend your child bride policy or your kill apostates and gays policies.

Stand up for the morality of your creed if you can.

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DL

He cannot, at least, not right away. He has to wait for advice from whoever gives it to him. His advisor also needs time to locate the applicable quote from his book. I guarantee there's a quote to support child molestation, murder, rape and other immoralities Muslims condone.

He cannot reason or develop an argument. He can only parrot the Book of Lies.

Give him a little time.
 

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Both religion were evil in their quest for power, but that was in 1095 (funny how the Muslims and Jews fought the Christians side by side during the Crusade). Christians over time realized through the study of religion that many part of their religion was irrational. This is yet to happen in for many followers of the Muslim faith. So in terms of ideologies, some are extreme and wrong. I want to say that I've never met a Muslim who was not respectful, polite and very generous. Let's know the difference between an islamic terrorist and a Muslim.
 

French Patriot

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He cannot, at least, not right away. He has to wait for advice from whoever gives it to him. His advisor also needs time to locate the applicable quote from his book. I guarantee there's a quote to support child molestation, murder, rape and other immoralities Muslims condone.

He cannot reason or develop an argument. He can only parrot the Book of Lies.

Give him a little time.



I hear you.


The fact that few Muslims ever argue for their ideology shows just how corrupt and unjustifiable it is.


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DL

Both religion were evil in their quest for power, but that was in 1095 (funny how the Muslims and Jews fought the Christians side by side during the Crusade). Christians over time realized through the study of religion that many part of their religion was irrational. This is yet to happen in for many followers of the Muslim faith. So in terms of ideologies, some are extreme and wrong. I want to say that I've never met a Muslim who was not respectful, polite and very generous. Let's know the difference between an islamic terrorist and a Muslim.


All Christians and Muslims follow immoral Gods of War. They are all potential terrorists as they can only grow their religions with the sword instead of good deeds.


If Christianity had not been brought to heel, they would be doing what militant Islamists are doing. Inquisitions and Jihad have the same root. The Non-universalist religions always need an enemy. There always has to be some other group that needs to be discriminated against. Such religions are based on hate, not love.


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DL
 

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I don't think morality can ever successfully be legislated. What is immoral for some is moral for others.
Democratic countries have addressed this issue by differentiating between crimes and sins. We can be as 'immoral' as we please as long as our immorality is not criminal.


As for dictating to other countries how they should rule, it is the right of a sovereign nation to enact its own laws; outsiders should not interfere, to my way of thinking.

Islamic countries are rules by Islamic law. We, in the free world, do not agree and see that as barbaric and an abuse of human rights. I certainly do! But if the Muslims in that country don't like it they should be the ones to revolt and bring about change. It is not the business of any other country.


The important thing, I believe, is to defend the laws of our own countries and disallow Muslims or any other religious group from disobeying our laws in any way while they reside in our country.


It should have been foreseen by the governments of those countries who opened the floodgates to Islamic refugees that conflict would arise. Now they want the UN (which is useless in the matter) and the rest of the free world to solve the problems for them by forcing our 'morality' globally.


When an organization like the UN has countries like Saudi Arabia, China, Russia negotiating on human rights issues , it can't be taken seriously.


JMHO.
 

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All Christians and Muslims follow immoral Gods of War. They are all potential terrorists as they can only grow their religions with the sword instead of good deeds.



DL
Quakers, Amish, and Seventh-Day Adventists, to name but a few.

What goes "Clop clop clop clop BOOM!"

A: An Amish suicide bomber.
 

French Patriot

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I don't think morality can ever successfully be legislated. What is immoral for some is moral for others.
Democratic countries have addressed this issue by differentiating between crimes and sins. We can be as 'immoral' as we please as long as our immorality is not criminal.


As for dictating to other countries how they should rule, it is the right of a sovereign nation to enact its own laws; outsiders should not interfere, to my way of thinking.

Islamic countries are rules by Islamic law. We, in the free world, do not agree and see that as barbaric and an abuse of human rights. I certainly do! But if the Muslims in that country don't like it they should be the ones to revolt and bring about change. It is not the business of any other country.


The important thing, I believe, is to defend the laws of our own countries and disallow Muslims or any other religious group from disobeying our laws in any way while they reside in our country.


It should have been foreseen by the governments of those countries who opened the floodgates to Islamic refugees that conflict would arise. Now they want the UN (which is useless in the matter) and the rest of the free world to solve the problems for them by forcing our 'morality' globally.


When an organization like the UN has countries like Saudi Arabia, China, Russia negotiating on human rights issues , it can't be taken seriously.


JMHO.


I mostly agree with your view except for


" As for dictating to other countries how they should rule, it is the right of a sovereign nation to enact its own laws; outsiders should not interfere, to my way of thinking."


You dislike that we interfere and advocate we do nothing about the evils that are imposed on other countries and their citizens.


You likely know that some sages have said that for evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.


Do you agree with that saying?


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DL