Federal Carbon Price established at $10 a tonne in 2018, rising to $50 by 2022

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mentalfloss said:
Why conservatives are wrong.

Because they're conservatives.
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Yes, a conservative is a conservative...and a liberal is a liberal (NEP, adscam, etc.)

mentalfloss said:
Yes, any extra tax, no matter how small, is deplorable if the levy is unnecessary, or the money wasted. But in the case of the carbon levy, every cent raised remains within the province. Each province can design its own system and use the money however it likes. Not one red cent has to go to Ottawa.
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Any new government implemented beurocracy, no matter how small, will always turn into an albatros, particularly when mandated by a Liberal government with a self-absorbed drama teacher at the helm. The term "revenue neutral" is a farce and does not exist in ANY goverment program.


mentalfloss said:
A conservative provincial government, like Mr. Wall’s Saskatchewan Party, could decide to take advantage of higher taxes on gasoline, diesel, natural gas and coal to lower taxes on things everyone wants more of, like income and investment. A conservative-minded premier could promise to turn every dollar of carbon levy into a dollar in tax cuts. That would make for an interesting contrast to Alberta and Ontario, which are largely planning on spending their carbon billions.
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Federal Liberal definition of choice...I am mandating that you damage your economy by whatever means you choose.


 
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captain morgan said:
Increasing GST is step # 2.

Junior still needs to raise $$ in order to pay for his promises...... And date nite too, London, Tokyo and New York ain't cheap date nites
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Oh is he following the Obama's famous date nights . I wonder why we never hear about them anymore ?
I hadn't heard the Trudeau's were also on this . Copy cat or what .
 
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captain morgan said:
Increasing GST is step # 2.

Junior still needs to raise $$ in order to pay for his promises...... And date nite too, London, Tokyo and New York ain't cheap date nites
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Keep in mind some of the promises were Chretien inspired and Martin implemented, carried on and expanded by Harper and are at obligation level at this point for Trudeau.

So far he hasn't skipped a beat on the Asia Pacific Gateway
 
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pgs said:
Oh is he following the Obama's famous date nights . I wonder why we never hear about them anymore ?
I hadn't heard the Trudeau's were also on this . Copy cat or what .
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Originality and creativity are not Junior's strong points.... No wonder he was only a p/t substitute dwama teacher

petros said:
Keep in mind some of the promises were Chretien inspired and Martin implemented, carried on and expanded by Harper and are at obligation level at this point for Trudeau.

So far he hasn't skipped a beat on the Asia Pacific Gateway
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He can't afford not to.
 
mentalfloss

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pgs said:
This carbon pricing tax will not be a tax .
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He never said it couldn't be.

In fact, he's made it clear that the provinces must choose a carbon tax or cap and trade.

Your allegation that Trudeau lied is baloney.
 
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Trudeau's 'two sizes fits all' doesn't work. Noval Scotia has been investing heavily in its own solution. If you force one of trudeau's schemes on them, they will be hit twice as hard as there fellow citizens in othe provinces. Surely, everyone here -except mentalfloss - can agree that this is not fair for nova scotians.
 
mentalfloss

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There provinces can use the revenue however they see fit.

Not a penny will touch federal coffers.


So even if NS disagreed, they have the power to give every red cent right back to people.
 
mentalfloss

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The majority of the provinces already have a carbon pricing plan in place.

It's just Sad Wall and a couple of others who don't.
 
Decapoda

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mentalfloss said:
The majority of the provinces already have a carbon pricing plan in place.

It's just Sad Wall and a couple of others who don't.
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Wall realizes that the deck is stacked. He knows that if there was proper accounting for carbon to include recognition of crops, trees, etc. as carbon sinks, Saskatchewan would likely be owed credit. But that wouldn't fit into Lil potato's plan.

He likely also realizes that 20,000 years ago, most of this country was under more than 3 kms of ice, and that the climate has been changing (warming) dramatically since then. He likely has enough common sense to realize that putting some stupid arbitrary price on essential carbon dioxide will do nothing to stop the inevitable Milankovitch cycles of the planet.
 
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Decapoda said:
Wall realizes that the deck is stacked. He knows that if there was proper accounting for carbon to include recognition of crops, trees, etc. as carbon sinks, Saskatchewan would likely be owed credit. But that wouldn't fit into Lil potato's plan.

He likely also realizes that 20,000 years ago, most of this country was under more than 3 kms of ice, and that the climate has been changing (warming) dramatically since then. He likely has enough common sense to realize that putting some stupid arbitrary price on essential carbon dioxide will do nothing to stop the inevitable Milankovitch cycles of the planet.
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It's all about collecting more revenues. The rest is illusion.
 
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