U.S., Russia seal Syria ceasefire deal, military partnership

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It's difficult to say what would have happened had the Kennedy's survived. One can only guess. John Kennedy increased the number of combat troops in SE Asia. Based on advice from his generals and his own study of the situation, he increased troops and money.

But this has nothing to do with Syria.

Friendly fire incidents happen when you are in that business. Even with all the high tech, intel and planning, there can never be a 100% guarantee that friendlies won't get hit. Same with innocent lives. Sometimes innocents are moved purposely into dangerous areas. It's great propaganda.
 
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The Kennedys were removed because they were obstructing the birth of this now you see before you
That was the coup that turned the US into the bendover stooge of the international bankers we referenced above
"The Nixon-Bush Connection To The Kennedy Assassination"
http://johnfitzgeraldkennedy.net/thenixonbushconnectiontothekennedyassassination.htm

If the mistakes were legit, people would get jail
feel free to post who has been fingered for the "mistakes"
 

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Friendly fire incidents appears to be as much a US specialty as false flag attacks on its own people. Then there is the dropping of supplies on the enemy, and the dropping of warning leaflets on IsUS's oil trucks before bombing them...

Did the US drop any leaflets this time?

‘Unbelievable’ that US strike on Syrian army was mistake – fmr MI5 agent

In one really bad way I think it was the worst mistake they could have made. It shows how desperate they are to salvage the Syria project. From now on I think the decline in American power will go steep to the bottom.They have no ability to develope trust anymore and the other powers know without doubt that America will stab them in the back sooner or later. It was a mistake to try and fool the world this time but they're so stupidly committed that they did it anyway. Payback is in order maybe it won't be long coming.
 

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That's why they need Hillary, the suicide blond, in the white house
lol
Maybe Nostradamus turd aunti christ "mabus", is short for Ma Bus(h)illary
if it isn't as I was guessing before US BAM
 

darkbeaver

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It's difficult to say what would have happened had the Kennedy's survived. One can only guess. John Kennedy increased the number of combat troops in SE Asia. Based on advice from his generals and his own study of the situation, he increased troops and money.

But this has nothing to do with Syria.

Friendly fire incidents happen when you are in that business. Even with all the high tech, intel and planning, there can never be a 100 guarantee that friendlies won't get hit. Same with innocent lives. Sometimes innocents are moved purposely into dangerous areas. It's great propaganda.

9/11 was great propaganda, they didn't have to move the innocents, they were just left where they were.
 

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9/11 was great propaganda, they didn't have to move the innocents, they were just left where they were.

9/11 was an example of targeting.

Moving children or other innocents to an area isn't targeting. It is done by the government of the country whose citizens are to be put in harm's way for propaganda purposes. What would possess a government to put their own people - civilians, children and the old - in danger?

Crackpots or nutbars.
 
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darkbeaver

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9/11 was an example of targeting. Moving children or other innocents to an area is done by the government of the country whose citizens are to be put in harm's way. What would possess a government to put their own people - civilians, children and the old - in danger?

Crackpots or nutbars.

Money and power. It's commoner for some powers to just bomb or burn or poison the enemys civilians and insist and blame like you do that evil alien undemocratic governments/regeims do it to thier own to garner points. Drones baby, who loves them? Terrorism is a profession.
 

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Missiles love drones.

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According to Press TV, the Syrian Army hit and brought down a UAV that was spotted hovering over mountains in the Jabal Therdeh area in the east of the province. AMN new agency, presenting itself a source of news from the Arabian world, specified that shots were fired by Syrian Arab Army's 137th Artillery Brigade of the 17th Tank Division, though noting that drone managed to leave the Syrian airspace.

Before the US-led coalition attack on Saturday that killed at least 62 Syrian Army soldiers, the Syrian airspace was opened to American aircraft, but the situation has become more unstable following the incident.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160919/1045449054/syrian-army-shoots-down-us-spy-drone.html


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“This is not a mistake and it can’t be, primarily because there cannot be a military exercise during an agreed ceasefire period. The American airplane had nothing to do flying over there at that time period when a ceasefire was agreed and officially announced,” Kara-Mustapha said.

She added that the action was a violation of the agreed ceasefire, she also added that the US military is equipped with the best military hardware that can actually determine who is who and where. “It was abundantly clear that the targets were the official Syrian military. The idea of dismissing it as a mere mistake is ridiculous.”

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160918/1045440479/us-bombs-syrian-army.html
 

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I always felt paul wolfowitz and dick cheney were prime hustlers heating foreign pots to rend flimsy excuses to engage the military but now samantha power and victoria nuland have made them appear as paper tigers. Ever since the soviet decline the u.s. has been beating the bushes to find a villian to justify their military society. Paul and dick only drummed up basically defenseless regimes but the isis spinoff opened a new door. The duo of samantha and victoria have little interest in small fish they're busy baiting big fish, maidan and isis make such great bait.
 

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The US-led coalition's bombing of Damascus-led forces besieged by Daesh in the city of Deir ez-Zor constitutes a "massacre," writer and activist Dr. Tim Anderson told Radio Sputnik, adding that the airstrike is unlikely to have been unintentional despite the Pentagon's claims to the contrary.

"There are a number of circumstances around US operations in Deir ez-Zor that suggest it's not likely to have been an accident because [Daesh] and the Syrian Army have been engaged there for a very long time. The US has not intervened at any time to prevent Daesh from moving westward for example when they took Palmyra last year. So it's a very unexpected move and it seems to be deliberate," he said. The academic expert in economics and international politics from the University of Sydney further noted that if the airstrike was indeed a calculated move then it was a "strange" one because the US clearly "has never had a stomach" for launching a large-scale military intervention in Syria.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/politics/20160919/1045455561/us-airstrike-syrian-army.html

Are they out of their minds?? The US (and NATO) have been supporting foreign fighters since the conflict began about 5 years ago. Talk about pure horse-sh*t.

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The head of the Turkish state explained that US soldiers' attitude toward Syrian opposition triggered the rift.

ANKARA (Sputnik) – The Turkish armed forces have led 30 US special forces members out of a potential conflict zone with the Free Syrian Army (FSA) rebel group in northern Syria, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Monday. "The FSA does not want the US special forces’ assistance because of the US’ behavior in relation to the Syrian opposition. Our troops led out 30 US special forces soldiers [from the armed conflict zone with the FSA]," Erdogan told reporters before departing for the UN General Assembly. Online footage circulated over the weekend appeared to depict FSA fighters threatening US special forces ostensibly accompanying them to the town of al-Rai ahead of an offensive on al-Bab to clear of the Daesh jihadist group.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160919/1045456703/us-commandos-fsa-erdogan.html

More horse-sh*t because if the US was there to route the Rebels they would have been killed on the spot. They were chased away because they were most likely setting up a suicide mission which is what happened to the Rebel fighters after they took the area that the US bombed (in that they are the authority over all the coalition aircraft in the area). The Syrian Government has retaken the area so the Rebels got nothing for their trouble.

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At about 5pm on Saturday, two US F-16 fighter bombers and two A-10 specialised ground attack aircraft bombed what they believed was a concentration of Isis fighters besieging pro-government forces in the city of Deir Ezzor in eastern Syria.
Whoever it was in the US Air Force who had misidentified the target as Isis made a disastrous error; the US planes were attacking Syrian Army soldiers fighting Isis at a position called Jebel Tharda close to Deir Ezzor airport. The city has been besieged by Isis for over a year and 110,000 civilians are trapped inside. By the time the US bombing raid was over it had killed at least 62 Syrian soldiers and injured another 100, enabling Isis to overrun the survivors before being forced to retreat by a counter-attack backed by Russian airstrikes.
The mistake and heavy Syrian Army casualty list symbolises the continuing failure to implement the agreement reached between the US and Russia on 10 September. Its main points are a ceasefire in Syria, the unimpeded entry of UN aid convoys into besieged areas, and a joint US-Russian air campaign against Isis and Jabhat al-Nusra, the former Al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria relabelled as the Jabhat Fateh al-Sham. Of these requirements only an increasingly shaky ceasefire is in place so far.
Worse, the US and Russia are belabouring each other at the UN Security Council in New York, with the Russians accusing the US of complicity with Isis and the US claiming that Russia is opportunistically taking advantage of a targeting error for which the US has apologised. The Russian Foreign Ministry said today that the whole ceasefire accord, agreed after 10 months of negotiations between the two biggest players in the Syrian conflict, is close to unravelling.
The strength of the agreement should be that it was put together by the US, as the world’s sole superpower, and Russia, which aspires to that status. Each should be able to influence allies and proxies into implementing the ceasefire, but so far this is not happening. There are many armed clashes and 40 trucks filled with supplies for the 250,000 to 275,000 people trapped in rebel-held East Aleppo are still stuck on the Turkish border. Supposedly moderate US-backed rebel groups are meant to be separating themselves geographically from al-Nusra, but they remain intermingled with it.
After USAF Strikes on Syrian Army US-Russian Negotiated Ceasefire Close to Unraveling
 

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Money and power. It's commoner for some powers to just bomb or burn or poison the enemys civilians and insist and blame like you do that evil alien undemocratic governments/regeims do it to thier own to garner points. Drones baby, who loves them? Terrorism is a profession.
Nothing positive to say about anything dayam no wonder you guzzle beer and smoke dope constantly try a margerita or two they taste just like lemonaide. :).
 

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So how's that ceasefire working out?
As expected.

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Russia raises the stakes in negotiating peace in Syria demanding that the United States prove that they are making a legitimate effort to separate the so-called "moderates" from the former al-Qaeda affiliate Al-Nusra Front otherwise a ceasefire merely plays in the hands of the terrorists.

The breakthrough Syrian ceasefire deal brokered between the United States and Russia calling for the two-parties to coordinate airstrikes collapsed this week following US-led airstrikes against the Syrian Army that killed 62 and over 300 ceasefire violations by the so-called "moderate" rebels supported by the United States who have openly banded together with Al-Nusra Front and who loudly refused to comply with the terms of the ceasefire agreement.

The second largest rebel group, Ahrar al-Sham provided a statement in the hours before the ceasefire was implemented signaling that the group would neither participate in the ceasefire nor could they disband from Al-Nusra Front because the two groups were too deeply intertwined. That position, held almost unanimously among the US-backed anti-Assad rebels, traces in part to Al-Nusra’s success in leading the effort to break the Syrian government siege of Aleppo in early August.

That situation, along with accusations by the West that either Russia or Syria attack a UN aid convoy following the attack against the Syrian Army, which Moscow vehemently denies, has left the hopes for peace in the war-torn country in tatters with fighting now escalating as the Assad government looks to beat back opposition forces who used the ceasefire to bolster their forces. "If everything again boils down to asking Russia’s and Syria’s Air Forces to take unilateral steps—such as, ‘Give us another three- or four-day pause and after that we will persuade all opposition groups that this is serious and that they must cut ties with Al-Nusra Front’ – such talk will not be taken seriously by us anymore," said Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov.

Read more: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160924/1045669412/lavrov-russia-syria-nusra-ceasefire.html
 

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Please try to stick to the Nations who are listed as losing personnel in a bomb blast directed at the leadership of the Rebels.
 

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a palestinian made it over the wall?
american ammo...you can't trust it at all...even if it is free
 

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A wave of intense airstrikes has left nearly two million people in the Syrian city of Aleppo without water, UN officials said Saturday as activists said at least 25 more civilians had been killed.

UN children's charity, UNICEF, said this week's renewed airstrikes - which further dashed hopes of reviving last week's cease-fire - had damaged a water pumping station which supplies about 250,000 people in rebel-held eastern parts and violence is preventing repair teams from reaching it.

A senior official in an Aleppo-based rebel faction, the Levant Front, told Reuters the weapons appeared designed to bring down entire buildings. "Most of the victims are under the rubble because more than half the civil defense has been forced out of service," he said.

The Syrian army says it is targeting rebel positions in the city, and denies hitting civilians.

Aleppo Airstrikes: UN Says Two Million People Now Without Water - NBC News?
 

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Oh goddness the west is concerned about a lack of water for the nation it savagely attacked in an undeclared war. The western coalition has made a habit of bombing civilian infrastructure. That's terrorism.