2016 Presidential Campaign

hillary rodham clinton vs donald john trump who will win?

  • hillary rodham clinton

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • donald john trump

    Votes: 18 60.0%

  • Total voters
    30

Tecumsehsbones

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Well, The Trump announced his Sooper Seekrit Plan to Destroy ISIS. He won't say what it is, but trust him, it's gonna be YUUUUUUGE!

Shades of Nixon's secret plan to end the Vietnam War. Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.


TRUMP 2016 - THE LEADERSHIP AMERICA DESERVES!
 

Danbones

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Hunh. The wisdom of the Wa-Na-Be. Tear trickles down Italian man's cheek.

wow...
way to take the point
lol
gnot

pointy fingers point both ways they say
but, actually its a one to three ratio
right back atcha...

ETA

well lookie here:

"Hillary Clinton has been destroyed with email hacks and document leaks for nearly two months now, and she will be waking up this morning to another one. In an email released Monday regarding Hillary’s Benghazi investigation, there was one specific message that detailed the exact location of Ambassador Chris Stevens. Because this email was sent through the unsecured server, it is highly probable that terrorists intercepted the message.

There were five relevant emails in the cache of Clinton emails that placed Amb. Stevens in harms way:"
https://conservativedailypost.com/b...ing-terrorists-how-to-kill-amb-chris-stevens/

hitlary and her brown shirts:
well, once she is Orfice they will be the first to go
 
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Danbones

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maybe we will yet get to see the email...
lol

Hillary, caught with her plants down
 

Cliffy

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Tecumsehsbones

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Are you still hurting over being exposed as an apple? My friend Medwolf prefers the term potato over apple. Would you prefer to be a potato?
You're a legend in your own mind, Cliffy. Probably where you get the authority to declare people "real" Indians or not.

It's classic pinkie racism to say that somebody who doesn't think and believe as a pinkie like you thinks Indians should isn't an Indian. Basically, it's saying that your pink a*s gets to decide how Indians must think.

You woulda been great as the head of a residential school. You have the right mindset for it.
 

DaSleeper

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USA Freedom Kids Sues Trump for Breaking Agreements (VIDEO)





USA FREEDOM KIDS
The Little Girls Who Sang Donald Trump's Praises Are Now Suing Him

The USA Freedom Kids' manager says the Trump campaign broke its promises to the group on two separate occasions.

By Matt Picht | September 6, 2016
Remember the kids who were singing about Donald Trump?

"President Donald Trump knows how to make America great," they sang.

They are the USA Freedom Kids, and they seem to be less enamored of Donald Trump these days.


SEE MORE: The Facts (And Fiction) About Donald Trump's Campaign Finances

The juvenile dance troupe, which gained viral fame after opening for the GOP nominee during a January rally in Pensacola, Florida, is now officially suing Trump's campaign.

Jeff Popick, manager of USA Freedom Kids, says the Trump campaign broke verbal agreements made to the group on two separate occasions and refused to compensate them for travel expenses.

Popick says the campaign didn't plan to compensate the group for their performance in Pensacola, but agreed to let them set up a merchandising table inside the rally. That apparently didn't happen — instead, event security wouldn't let them bring the merch into the building, and Popick says all of it ended up being stolen after the group left it behind in their car.

USA Freedom Kids also says they were scheduled to perform during Trump's debate protest rally in Iowa, but the performance was canceled at the last minute. The group accuses the campaign of stiffing them on travel expenses and barring them from speaking to the media at the event.

SEE MORE: Trump Has Lots To Lose, Little To Gain By Releasing Tax Returns

The group's lawsuit is demanding up to $15,000 in damages from the campaign. Popick told The Washington Post in July he wasn't sure if he still supported Trump's presidential bid.

Popick told The Daily Beast, "This is not an opportunistic thing where we’re suing Donald Trump. ... We're not suing for emotional distress and all that other stuff. ... This is tangible dollars I spent under false pretenses."
Gopher.,....You know what to do?????
Blame Bush
Blame Bush
Blame Bush
 

davesmom

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The trouble with elections - people (voters and supporters) make decisions based on emotion, not their brain. It is evident in the way dedicated supporters of one side listen to the other side only to hear what they can attack. They don't hear anything positive.
Reporters can kind of be excused for that because they have to have something to write about, but the general public shouldn't be so close-minded.
 

Tecumsehsbones

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The trouble with elections - people (voters and supporters) make decisions based on emotion, not their brain. It is evident in the way dedicated supporters of one side listen to the other side only to hear what they can attack. They don't hear anything positive.
Reporters can kind of be excused for that because they have to have something to write about, but the general public shouldn't be so close-minded.
That is precisely what Scott Adams said. And he and you are right.

Near as I can tell, when all the lies and BS are done, the positions of the two candidates are. . .

Clinton: Things are going pretty well with the economy, jobs, foreign affairs, and you should vote for me to keep them going well.

Trump: Everything has gone to hell and we're weak, poor, and on the brink of total collapse, and only I can save you!

Or to put it even more briefly:

Clinton: Things are OK.

Trump: Everything sucks.

The huge majority (well over 90%) make their decision based on which of those two statements best reflects their mindset, and then categorically refuse to hear anything against their Chosen Leader or for the other one.

Why on earth do we need a two-year election cycle to decide between "Things are OK" and "Everything sucks?"
 

Murphy

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The candidates may be done, but the media hasn't stopped yet. :)

I got to watch CNN and witness first hand their attempts to influence viewers. It was Anderson Cooper's show. The guests were three former military officers. The panelists were CNN staff.

Cooper asked one of the guests about Trump's idea to give the generals 30 days to come up with a solution to defeat ISIS. And what, generally speaking, is talked about in these meetings. Fareed Zakaria shook his head and gave that sad smile of disbelief when one of the interviewees responded. The fellow giving the opinion had been to many of these meetings and answered the question. No politics involved.

What I found unusual was the blatant disregard for that man's opinion by a newsperson, Fareed Zakaria. He went on to tell the audience that if they wished to understand how presidents deal with generals, the federal government has recently released meeting notes from the 1950 or 1960s about this very thing.

Neither myself nor Zakaria has ever been to a presidential meeting, so I found it a stretch to believe much, if anything, he said. Using 50 or 60 yr old notes as proof of what is discussed at these meetings, or how the president of the generals conduct themselves was a bit of a stretch as well.

Different time. Different wars. Different societal attitudes.

Whoever wins will be the president. Throughout history, there are examples of the media taking up sides. It used to be the newspapers, but television has taken over. For the media at least, the fight's not over.
 

coldstream

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The candidates may be done, but the media hasn't stopped yet. :)

I got to watch CNN and witness first hand their attempts to influence viewers. It was Anderson Cooper's show. The guests were three former military officers. The panelists were CNN staff.

Cooper asked one of the guests about Trump's idea to give the generals 30 days to come up with a solution to defeat ISIS. And what, generally speaking, is talked about in these meetings. Fareed Zakaria shook his head and gave that sad smile of disbelief when one of the interviewees responded. The fellow giving the opinion had been to many of these meetings and answered the question. No politics involved.

What I found unusual was the blatant disregard for that man's opinion by a newsperson, Fareed Zakaria. He went on to tell the audience that if they wished to understand how presidents deal with generals, the federal government has recently released meeting notes from the 1950 or 1960s about this very thing.

Neither myself nor Zakaria has ever been to a presidential meeting, so I found it a stretch to believe much, if anything, he said. Using 50 or 60 yr old notes as proof of what is discussed at these meetings, or how the president of the generals conduct themselves was a bit of a stretch as well.

Different time. Different wars. Different societal attitudes.

Whoever wins will be the president. Throughout history, there are examples of the media taking up sides. It used to be the newspapers, but television has taken over. For the media at least, the fight's not over.


Fareed Zakaria (of CNNs GPS - Global Public Square), has been the most rabid anti Trump voice in the media since Day 1. He is an arch propronent of Global Free Markets, Monetarism, post nationalism.

Trump's most identifiable and consistent policy theme is that of Nationalism.. reestablishment of borders in terms of fair trade and orderly immigation, dirigiste economics, refocus of priorities to those of the nation instead of the Globe. Zakaria is an asset of Supranational Agencies.. IMF, WTO, World Bank.. and the overarching trade tribunals associated with Free Trade Agreements.

He is Muslim who supports a complete detachment of Western Civilization from its Christian roots, while at the same time promoting a supposed enlightened Westernized version of Islam, that has NEVER been fully realized, except in transitory and highly unstable political constructs. The true Islamic Caliphate remains as it always has been... a theocratic tyranny with a violent, expansionist, messianic mission.

He has cajoled and threatened former diplomats, bureacrats and politicians to come out en masse against Trump.. and is rolling in frustration to see he is still in the race after he's labelled him a racist, moron and traitor.. and that many senior military and political officials are now supporting Trump. That said the entire emphasis of all of CNNs reporting is to cast a not so suble pall of outrage and incompetence over the Trump candidacy.

I take it with a grain of salt. The average CNN audience in about half a million... of the 100 million who will vote. And many of those see through the bias.
 
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