You can get timed out for trolling. Do you really think one of our "crack" mods would risk it?
Will the GOP repudiate Trump’s cruelty to a fallen soldier’s family?
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There are rules against trolling here? This forum is 90% trolls. It's troll on troll 24/7. And besides mentalfloss is the most successful troll here. I don't even know he if tries to be a troll, but people are trolled by him before he even posts. DaSleeper said once he thought about mentalfloss having orgasms while he watched TV.
I'm not sure what the rules are here. Near as I can tell the only thing enforced is "don't embarrass the mods too much". Other than that, I gather everything goes.
Some of us admit to trolling...
Those with their nose in the air and their better than thou attitude are just damned hypocrites......but trolls just the same...
Those with their nose in the air and their better than thou attitude are just damned hypocrites......but trolls just the same...
There's a page with rules and there's also a warning at the end of every thread when you post. Big red letters it says "off limits" and lists personal attacks among other things. So that must be a very important rule.
Education five times bad heel once, smart guy. Good paper the Indian Express. Would them be
Lot's of people miss thier oportunity to serve because of schedualing difficulties, but you're trying to vilify happenstance.
Khan: "I Am Not Going To Continue To Appear on Television"
thank gawd because he can't put a sentence together to save his life. and he's a mad kinda dude too. bit of a rounder I suspect.
"There Is No Such Thing As Sharia Law"
In an appearance on Anderson Cooper's CNN show Tuesday night Khizr Khan, the father of Captain Khan, said he would not be appearing on television anymore. Khan says he doesn't want an apology from Trump; it is empathy that he wants.
Khan criticized Trump for disrespecting women and minorities. Khan also said that there is no such thing as Sharia law. Transcript, via CNN:
COOPER: Right. There was a right-wing media reporting that you had taken down your work web page, that on it, you have a business which essentially allows wealthy people from the Middle East to essentially buy visas legally, but that it's a visa program. You're saying that's not your business.
KHAN: That is not my business. I tried to see if I could have a client or two, the rich people, the rich men -- businessmen that want to come in, they don't come to Khizr Khan. They go to large companies, large law firms and immigration specialists and come through there.
yeah yeah sure sure
mo
Khan: "I Am Not Going To Continue To Appear on Television"; "There Is No Such Thing As Sharia Law" | Video | RealClearPolitics
thank gawd because he can't put a sentence together to save his life. and he's a mad kinda dude too. bit of a rounder I suspect.
"There Is No Such Thing As Sharia Law"
In an appearance on Anderson Cooper's CNN show Tuesday night Khizr Khan, the father of Captain Khan, said he would not be appearing on television anymore. Khan says he doesn't want an apology from Trump; it is empathy that he wants.
Khan criticized Trump for disrespecting women and minorities. Khan also said that there is no such thing as Sharia law. Transcript, via CNN:
COOPER: Right. There was a right-wing media reporting that you had taken down your work web page, that on it, you have a business which essentially allows wealthy people from the Middle East to essentially buy visas legally, but that it's a visa program. You're saying that's not your business.
KHAN: That is not my business. I tried to see if I could have a client or two, the rich people, the rich men -- businessmen that want to come in, they don't come to Khizr Khan. They go to large companies, large law firms and immigration specialists and come through there.
yeah yeah sure sure
mo
Khan: "I Am Not Going To Continue To Appear on Television"; "There Is No Such Thing As Sharia Law" | Video | RealClearPolitics
The media attacks on Trump and their blatant support for Clinton are beyond description!
I used to have a great respect for America and I once thought CNN did a good job of reporting the news. But this election coverage is disgusting and disgraceful.
What is it? Mob mentality? The whole thing is about crucifying Trump. Or are the Democrats paying or offering rewards for the promotion CNN is giving them?
Whatever, it is beyond any kind of decency@
Let's take an honest look at this condemnation of Trump over the Khan issue.
What, exactly did Trump say that he need to apologize for? He expressed respect for the fallen hero, Captain Kahn. He wondered if Mrs. Khan was not allowed to speak. How is that insulting? Are people not allowed to 'wonder about things' anymore?
I wondered about that myself and also why the son was never once referred to as 'their son'; Mr. Kahn referred over and over again to "MY son".
To me, the most disrespectful thing about the whole issue is using the death of a military hero for political purpose. That disrespect belongs to Mr. Khan himself and to Hillary Clinton.
The mob mentality is the public condemnation of Trump for attacking a Gold Star Family. What attack? I didn't see any attack. The only obvious answer is that people think he should have praised the Khans to the Heavens over and over. Well, no doubt they grieved for their son's death but so do tens of thousands of other parents who have lost sons to the senseless wars created by the Obama/Clinton Administration. The only attack I say was Mr. Khan's attack on Donald Trump!
Now let's look at what was missing from this issue.
As one military General pointed out, if Captain Khan had been allowed to shoot into the approaching vehicle and stop it before it got close he wouldn't have had to die. It is not Trump who put that stupid 'rule of engagement' into place that prevents shooting at an approaching enemy without first trying to wave him down and getting in the path to stop him.
How many other soldiers have died needlessly because they can't shoot first?
There is evidence that Mr. Kahn supports Sharia law and helps Muslims immigrate to the United States. The fact that his web sites were deleted as soon as this issue arose kind of support that theory, doesn't it? Yet nobody followed up on that or reported even the possibility of it.
In light of that, couldn't it be possible that Mr. Khan was pursuing a personal agenda and disrespectfully using the son's death to promote that agenda?
Why were none of these things ever explored, examined or reported?
I have lost all respect for the way the media reports, their bias, and the gullibility of the American people who believe all the negativity they report about Trump and for blindly following the obvious denials of the Clinton campaign's duplicity; for swallowing Hillary's lies hook, line and sinker. I have lost all respect for the politicians on both sides of the aisle for pandering to the public's stupidity and to whomever they think can best further their careers.
I know this is a rant, but I had to get it off my chest. It's come to the point where I don't even want to listen to CNN anymore!
I used to have a great respect for America and I once thought CNN did a good job of reporting the news. But this election coverage is disgusting and disgraceful.
What is it? Mob mentality? The whole thing is about crucifying Trump. Or are the Democrats paying or offering rewards for the promotion CNN is giving them?
Whatever, it is beyond any kind of decency@
Let's take an honest look at this condemnation of Trump over the Khan issue.
What, exactly did Trump say that he need to apologize for? He expressed respect for the fallen hero, Captain Kahn. He wondered if Mrs. Khan was not allowed to speak. How is that insulting? Are people not allowed to 'wonder about things' anymore?
I wondered about that myself and also why the son was never once referred to as 'their son'; Mr. Kahn referred over and over again to "MY son".
To me, the most disrespectful thing about the whole issue is using the death of a military hero for political purpose. That disrespect belongs to Mr. Khan himself and to Hillary Clinton.
The mob mentality is the public condemnation of Trump for attacking a Gold Star Family. What attack? I didn't see any attack. The only obvious answer is that people think he should have praised the Khans to the Heavens over and over. Well, no doubt they grieved for their son's death but so do tens of thousands of other parents who have lost sons to the senseless wars created by the Obama/Clinton Administration. The only attack I say was Mr. Khan's attack on Donald Trump!
Now let's look at what was missing from this issue.
As one military General pointed out, if Captain Khan had been allowed to shoot into the approaching vehicle and stop it before it got close he wouldn't have had to die. It is not Trump who put that stupid 'rule of engagement' into place that prevents shooting at an approaching enemy without first trying to wave him down and getting in the path to stop him.
How many other soldiers have died needlessly because they can't shoot first?
There is evidence that Mr. Kahn supports Sharia law and helps Muslims immigrate to the United States. The fact that his web sites were deleted as soon as this issue arose kind of support that theory, doesn't it? Yet nobody followed up on that or reported even the possibility of it.
In light of that, couldn't it be possible that Mr. Khan was pursuing a personal agenda and disrespectfully using the son's death to promote that agenda?
Why were none of these things ever explored, examined or reported?
I have lost all respect for the way the media reports, their bias, and the gullibility of the American people who believe all the negativity they report about Trump and for blindly following the obvious denials of the Clinton campaign's duplicity; for swallowing Hillary's lies hook, line and sinker. I have lost all respect for the politicians on both sides of the aisle for pandering to the public's stupidity and to whomever they think can best further their careers.
I know this is a rant, but I had to get it off my chest. It's come to the point where I don't even want to listen to CNN anymore!
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There are rules that say women can't drive in certain areas without a man walking in front of the car waving a red flag. Nobody enforces them so they aren't really rules
Slain War Hero’s Commanding Officer Slams Trump For “Despicable” & “Un-American” Attacks
The perpetually abrasive and universally disrespectful Republican nominee Donald Trump continues to astound the nation at his insistence on escalating his verbal attacks against the family of slain Muslim war hero Capt. Humayun Khan. To see a presidential nominee denigrate and insult the service of a United States armed forces member – a hero who courageously sacrificed himself to save the rest of his unit – is beyond the pale of anything we have ever seen in politics, and it has prompted a growing backlash among horrified Americans from all walks of life.
Major-General Dana H. Pittard (ret.) of the 3rd Brigade, 1st Infantry Division was Captain Humayun Khan (201st Forward Support Battalion)’s commanding officer in Iraq, and she wrote an op-ed for the Washington Post celebrating the life of this true American hero and slammed Trump for his “despicable” and “un-American” attacks on Humayun’s legacy and on his mourning family.
I am a former soldier who served our nation in uniform for more than 34 years. I was also Capt. Humayun Khan’s combat brigade commander in Diyala province, Iraq, in 2004. I came to know Humayun after taking command of the 3rd Brigade, 1st Infantry Division, in Germany in 2002. The motto of our unit was “No mission too difficult. No sacrifice too great. Duty First!” Humayun was a wonderful person, liked and respected by all who knew him. I used to joke with him about the tank platoon he once led, which I had led 20 years earlier. I often told him that we were kindred spirits. I remember clearly the day he died.
Maj. Pittard then goes on to describe what exactly happened that day in Diyala, Iraq, and what made Humayun’s sacrifice so much the more meaningful. Distraught over the frequency of accidental killings of local Iraqi civilians over miscommunications, Humayun and his unit took it upon themselves to build a warm rapport with local day laborers and to strengthen the tenuous relationship between Iraqis and the American occupation force.
Humayun probably moved toward the suspicious vehicle to avoid killing the driver unnecessarily, but at some point, he concluded that something was wrong and ordered his men to hit the dirt. The driver detonated his car bomb, killing Humayun and two Iraqi citizens. Humayun died trying to save the lives of innocent Iraqis. His brave effort to approach the vehicle probably saved American lives as well.
Maj. Pittard finishes with a beautiful description of just what it means to be an American service member, what the values of our nation truly represent – and has some harsh words for Trump and his racist attacks.
Humayun was one of 36 men and one woman in our brigade who died during our year in Iraq. Our fallen comrades were of all races, religions and genders. They represented sacrifice, service, duty and the essence of what makes our country great. And, yes, it is a great country right now. Despite our flaws, the United States remains a beacon of hope around the world.
Blue Star families are those with a member deployed to combat in the service of our country. Gold Star families are families that have lost a loved one in a combat zone. In our military culture, we hold Blue Star families in the highest regard. But we have absolute reverence for our Gold Star families.
I join all those who stand in support of the Khan family. This family is our family, and any attack on this wonderful American Gold Star family is an attack on all patriotic and loyal Americans who have sacrificed to make our country great. Any politically or racially motivated attack on the Khans is despicable and un-American.
I am no politician. I have stayed away from politics my entire adult life. My family has been Republican ever since my maternal grandparents migrated from Jim Crow South Carolina to Philadelphia in the late 1920s. My grandmother voted for Herbert Hoover in 1928. Though I am a Republican, I have voted my conscience — for both Democrats and Republicans — for the past 32 years. I’m going to vote my conscience again this year.
We live in a dangerous and complex world. We need leaders who are steady, patient and empathetic, especially at the national level, during this troubled time. We need somebody who has respect for our Gold Star families.
But, above all, our country needs more men and women like Humayun Khan and the countless others who willingly and humbly served this great nation of ours without reservation or recognition.
“Duty First!”
Khan was so beloved by his unit that three memorial services were held in his honor and the 201st Battalion headquarters was renamed the Khan building in his honor. Make no mistake. Donald J. Trump is a selfish coward and a liar with no conception of what “duty” really means. Humayun Khan was an exemplary American, representative of all the convictions and ethics that make our country truly great. Trump represents all the fear, hate, and ignorance that brings our country shame. These unnecessary and cruel attacks against a real American hero aren’t enough to convince the American people that this man doesn’t deserve to be President, then they don’t deserve to call themselves Americans.
Slain War Hero's Commanding Officer Slams Trump For "Despicable" & "Un-American" Attacks
Despite all the love shown here to tRUMP by his fan boy Trump chumps, he remains pathetic.
The perpetually abrasive and universally disrespectful Republican nominee Donald Trump continues to astound the nation at his insistence on escalating his verbal attacks against the family of slain Muslim war hero Capt. Humayun Khan. To see a presidential nominee denigrate and insult the service of a United States armed forces member – a hero who courageously sacrificed himself to save the rest of his unit – is beyond the pale of anything we have ever seen in politics, and it has prompted a growing backlash among horrified Americans from all walks of life.
Major-General Dana H. Pittard (ret.) of the 3rd Brigade, 1st Infantry Division was Captain Humayun Khan (201st Forward Support Battalion)’s commanding officer in Iraq, and she wrote an op-ed for the Washington Post celebrating the life of this true American hero and slammed Trump for his “despicable” and “un-American” attacks on Humayun’s legacy and on his mourning family.
I am a former soldier who served our nation in uniform for more than 34 years. I was also Capt. Humayun Khan’s combat brigade commander in Diyala province, Iraq, in 2004. I came to know Humayun after taking command of the 3rd Brigade, 1st Infantry Division, in Germany in 2002. The motto of our unit was “No mission too difficult. No sacrifice too great. Duty First!” Humayun was a wonderful person, liked and respected by all who knew him. I used to joke with him about the tank platoon he once led, which I had led 20 years earlier. I often told him that we were kindred spirits. I remember clearly the day he died.
Maj. Pittard then goes on to describe what exactly happened that day in Diyala, Iraq, and what made Humayun’s sacrifice so much the more meaningful. Distraught over the frequency of accidental killings of local Iraqi civilians over miscommunications, Humayun and his unit took it upon themselves to build a warm rapport with local day laborers and to strengthen the tenuous relationship between Iraqis and the American occupation force.
Humayun probably moved toward the suspicious vehicle to avoid killing the driver unnecessarily, but at some point, he concluded that something was wrong and ordered his men to hit the dirt. The driver detonated his car bomb, killing Humayun and two Iraqi citizens. Humayun died trying to save the lives of innocent Iraqis. His brave effort to approach the vehicle probably saved American lives as well.
Maj. Pittard finishes with a beautiful description of just what it means to be an American service member, what the values of our nation truly represent – and has some harsh words for Trump and his racist attacks.
Humayun was one of 36 men and one woman in our brigade who died during our year in Iraq. Our fallen comrades were of all races, religions and genders. They represented sacrifice, service, duty and the essence of what makes our country great. And, yes, it is a great country right now. Despite our flaws, the United States remains a beacon of hope around the world.
Blue Star families are those with a member deployed to combat in the service of our country. Gold Star families are families that have lost a loved one in a combat zone. In our military culture, we hold Blue Star families in the highest regard. But we have absolute reverence for our Gold Star families.
I join all those who stand in support of the Khan family. This family is our family, and any attack on this wonderful American Gold Star family is an attack on all patriotic and loyal Americans who have sacrificed to make our country great. Any politically or racially motivated attack on the Khans is despicable and un-American.
I am no politician. I have stayed away from politics my entire adult life. My family has been Republican ever since my maternal grandparents migrated from Jim Crow South Carolina to Philadelphia in the late 1920s. My grandmother voted for Herbert Hoover in 1928. Though I am a Republican, I have voted my conscience — for both Democrats and Republicans — for the past 32 years. I’m going to vote my conscience again this year.
We live in a dangerous and complex world. We need leaders who are steady, patient and empathetic, especially at the national level, during this troubled time. We need somebody who has respect for our Gold Star families.
But, above all, our country needs more men and women like Humayun Khan and the countless others who willingly and humbly served this great nation of ours without reservation or recognition.
“Duty First!”
Khan was so beloved by his unit that three memorial services were held in his honor and the 201st Battalion headquarters was renamed the Khan building in his honor. Make no mistake. Donald J. Trump is a selfish coward and a liar with no conception of what “duty” really means. Humayun Khan was an exemplary American, representative of all the convictions and ethics that make our country truly great. Trump represents all the fear, hate, and ignorance that brings our country shame. These unnecessary and cruel attacks against a real American hero aren’t enough to convince the American people that this man doesn’t deserve to be President, then they don’t deserve to call themselves Americans.
Slain War Hero's Commanding Officer Slams Trump For "Despicable" & "Un-American" Attacks
Despite all the love shown here to tRUMP by his fan boy Trump chumps, he remains pathetic.
I still don't know what Trump said that was insulting and/or cruel, despicable and Un-American. I still don't see where he attacked anybody.
People clearly are making up words that never were spoken.
Was it despicable and Un-American when he expressed respect for Captain Khan?
Was it despicable and Un-American when he 'wondered' if Mrs. Kahn's religion prevented her from speaking? (I wondered that too, and so did a lot of other people).
This is mob mentality gone out of control!
harsh but fair:
Steve Goddard @SteveSGoddard
If the Religion of Peace hadn't taken down the World Trade Center, Hillary wouldn't have voted to send Mr Kahn's son to Iraq.
Steve Goddard @SteveSGoddard If the Religion of Peace hadn't taken down the World Trade Center, Hillary wouldn't have voted to send Mr Kahn's son to Iraq.
Don't forget, it was Obama and Clinton changing the rules of engagement in 2009 that caused Capt. Khan's death in 2004.
We know it's true because the Trump campaign says so!
We know it's true because the Trump campaign says so!
The evidence is clear. On Oct. 10, 2002, during the Senate debate on a resolution to authorize the use of force in Iraq, Clinton rose to express her highly qualified support.
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-2002-10-10/html/CREC-2002-10-10-pt1-PgS10233-7.htm
try to keep up.
I'm not sure exactly what Fokes Paws were committed but I think this was one of those situations where acting in a presidential manner would have done him more good than harm and the electorate would have been more favourably impressed. Even a clod from the sticks like myself upon scratching my head for awhile might have come to the conclusion that an expression of condolence for the tragic loss of their son would have put him in better stead!
