Harper Stepping Down

darkbeaver

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Thanks for the compliment, not sure if everyone sees me as you do, but that's alright!

We are individuals and have unique perspectives. I am certainly not as sophisticated as I am full of shjt.
 

taxslave

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Is that to his advantage or disadvantage?

He's a eeconomist. Means he is like a weatherman for financial stuff. With much the same benefits. You don't get fired for being wrong. And if you predict crappy times and are wrong everybody still loves you.
 

taxslave

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Biggest problem with Harper leaving is the left will have no one but themselves to blame for the pispoor shape the country is in. Gonna really suck in flossy's jerk circle.
 

darkbeaver

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Sounds like we are "birds of a feather"!

Of course we are. I might be a bit thick to penetrate sometimes but that is the nature of concrete, a great product with utility, solid dependable, lasting, thick, heavy, tedious, all those and more, bottomlesss, I cannot fly yet though even as I am covered with feathers, a bit bit of a chicken, the ultimate flightless bird,
 

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Good for him. I wish him well. Can't say the house is somewhere I would want to be right now. Too much risk of injury being assaulted by the current PM.
Idratherbesking,
Has anyone told you,"you sound so childish"

Not much point of even having a house is it? Just appoint our Selfie PM Supreme Dick-tator and be done with it.
Idratherbesking,
Has anyone told you,"you sound so childish"he

Not much point of even having a house is it? Just appoint our Selfie PM Supreme Dick-tator and be done with it.
Childish!

Trudeau will cram pipelines down hippy throats but they'll be too stoned to care.
More childish,definitely a grade response

A big loss for the opposition parties.
Where is Harper going?
 

tay

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Rae finds Trudeau's praise for Harper hard to swallow

"We need to remember that even though they may be our opponents, they're not our enemies. They're our neighbours and our friends," he said.

"So, I want to take a moment. You see, there are only a handful of people alive who know what it's like to do this job ... And I can tell you, even if you weren't a fan of his politics, there can be no doubting Stephen Harper's commitment to our country."

Trudeau asked Liberals to join him in thanking Harper, who has let it be known he will retire from politics over the summer, for "his many years of public service."

Trudeau, the eldest son of former prime minister Pierre Trudeau, said he's among the few who know first hand that it's not easy to be part of a prime minister's family. So he also thanked Harper's wife, Laureen, and his children, Ben and Rachel, for "standing with him through thick and thin."

Rae finds Trudeau's praise for Stephen Harper hard to swallow | The Chronicle Herald


 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Rae finds Trudeau's praise for Harper hard to swallow

"We need to remember that even though they may be our opponents, they're not our enemies. They're our neighbours and our friends," he said.

"So, I want to take a moment. You see, there are only a handful of people alive who know what it's like to do this job ... And I can tell you, even if you weren't a fan of his politics, there can be no doubting Stephen Harper's commitment to our country."

Trudeau asked Liberals to join him in thanking Harper, who has let it be known he will retire from politics over the summer, for "his many years of public service."

Trudeau, the eldest son of former prime minister Pierre Trudeau, said he's among the few who know first hand that it's not easy to be part of a prime minister's family. So he also thanked Harper's wife, Laureen, and his children, Ben and Rachel, for "standing with him through thick and thin."

Rae finds Trudeau's praise for Stephen Harper hard to swallow | The Chronicle Herald



What was Bob Rae doing at a Conservative convention? Is he planning to switch parties/ideologies again?
 

tay

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And they were broadcasting Harper's speech? Are we sure the reaction wasn't to something the Shiny Pony said?

Are you adverse to reading the article I posted?

As prime minister, Stephen Harper didn't accomplish much. Andrew Coyne writes (link is external) that Mr. Harper's legacy is pretty thin:


Since his party’s defeat in the past election — the first majority government to be driven from power with unemployment at or below seven per cent since 1957 — Harper has kept a low profile. His acolytes, however, have been busy asserting a far-reaching legacy for his government, claiming to detect in his record a consistent philosophy of “ordered liberty.”

There isn’t much to this argument, frankly. Any honest examination of Harper’s nine-odd years in office would find a government that wandered all over the intellectual map, boasting of its commitment to balanced budgets while adding $150 billion to the national debt, talking of its respect for free markets while launching 1970s-style industrial-subsidy programs, praising the military while denying it adequate equipment, and so on.

Its defenders point to all the things other governments might have done — a national daycare program, say — that Harper’s didn’t. But we could as well list all of the conservative policies it failed to enact, from privatization to deregulation to reform of social programs. We might talk of how the party’s social conservatives were gagged, or how the party of democratic conservatism became the party of one-man rule.

There was much that it did that it shouldn’t have — a long list that would include abusing the prerogatives of Parliament, packing the Senate with spendthrifts and cronies, and attempting to skew elections via the Fair Elections Act — and much else that it tried to do but failed, from reforming the Senate to building pipelines.

And whatever it did do, for good or ill, is rapidly being undone, either by the courts or by the government that succeeded it: not only egregious nonsense such as the corruption of the long-form census or all those unconstitutional crime bills, but real accomplishments such as pushing back OAS eligibility or income-splitting for couples with children. About all that remains are the free trade agreements it signed (good) and the GST cuts (ill).

So when it came time, in his speech to the Conservative convention, for the former prime minister to review his record, it was more by way of stances than achievements: standing up for “principled positions in a dangerous world,” say, or standing watch over a period of relative prosperity and national unity. It’s not nothing. There were some important reforms of campaign finances, some useful tax changes. But as legacies go, it’s pretty thin.

That’s if you consider his legacy in government. But the real and lasting legacy of Harper may be less as prime minister than as the modern Conservative party’s first leader.

To be sure, even in partisan terms, the record is mixed. He lost an election he could have won in 2004 and turned an expected majority into a minority in 2006, only finally winning a majority in 2011 against a rookie Liberal leader who’d been out of the country for 30 years. And then he squandered that historic breakthrough, in four feckless, high-handed, unrelentingly nasty years.

But when you consider what went before him, not only the wilderness years after the crackup of the old Conservative party in 1993 but the century of futility that preceded it, Harper starts to look pretty good. It isn’t just his part in reuniting the parties of the right, the former Canadian Alliance and Progressive Conservatives, striking a deal with Peter MacKay after each had won the leadership of his party on a pledge of opposition to such a merger. It is that, even in defeat, the Conservative party remains well placed to contend for power — as Harper put it, “the one and only opposition party positioned to take government the next time round.”

yes IdRatherBeSkiing, the article continues at the link below......

Andrew Coyne: Harper made bigger mark as party leader than as Prime Minister | National Post
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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Rae. Didn't he get booed off the stage after the Jays won their second pennant?
Wasn't he a dipper and then a Liberal? Didn't he get wiped out by the Harris Government in a Provincial election? Didn't he stab the Unions in the bag and make cuts after promising not to do so?

Bob Rae. He's Kathleen Wynne light.