If you didn't embrace life and all life created what makes you think you'll get a second one?
What happened to the disbelievers who died?
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damngrumpy damned it :laughing6:
Such words will not avail you anything; even if you do not believe, this will be worse for you.
Don't I embrace life?
Quran 62: 6
{Say, [Mohammed]: "O Jews, in case you claim that you are favorite friends of God, apart from other people e, then do long for death if you are truthful [in your claim that God loves you.]"}
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e It means: If you claim that God loves you in preference to other people.
It means: if you are true in your claim that you are preferred by God, then wish and long for death, so that you may go to Paradise in heaven, because according to your claim that God loves you, so He will not punish you, but will reward you in Paradise.
OH God I am shuttering in my boots God is going to get me
Are you suggesting God is a hypocrite? God gave us free will
remember? It is not free will if he is going to punish you for
not doing what he commands he gave you free will. He
gave away his power to free will or did you miss that.
What you need is a few beer to loosen you up a bit
Are you suggesting God is a hypocrite? God gave us free will
remember? It is not free will if he is going to punish you for
not doing what he commands he gave you free will. He
gave away his power to free will or did you miss that.
What you need is a few beer to loosen you up a bit
It is not like this.
God gave you free will in order to choose the correct way, and you are responsible about your choice. If you choose the goodness you will be rewarded, but if you choose the evil you will be punished.
It is like people and government: citizens are free to choose: if they choose to act well, it will be well, but if commit crime there will be the prison and the punishment.
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Quran 62: 7
[Then God – be glorified – disapproved their claim, and He said:]
7. But they will never long for the [death], on account of [the crimes, wrong-doing and disobedience] that their hands have forwarded [to the Next Life.]
God is All-Knowing about the wrong-doers g.
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g It means: Jews who wrong people and plunder their rights.
Selfsame. What if you are wrong? What if all your efforts to
recruit others to your religion as translate by Ali Hill Billy are
leading others astray from the true path, whatever that may
be? What kind of celestial peepee-whack can you expect in
the afterlife that you preach of then? What if your preaching
and recruitment attempts are really pissing off this god?
Oh yeah, and Jews are evil. Got it.
recruit others to your religion as translate by Ali Hill Billy are
leading others astray from the true path, whatever that may
be? What kind of celestial peepee-whack can you expect in
the afterlife that you preach of then? What if your preaching
and recruitment attempts are really pissing off this god?
Oh yeah, and Jews are evil. Got it.
Got any proof? And I don't mean more of your fairy tales but real live proof.
SInce the next life is so much better why not just skip this one and move on?
Ron in Regina, I am not wrong.
You are more worthy to think: if what I am telling you according to the Quran and the inspired interpreter of the Quran and the Bible (Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly) is true, what's your outcome then?
So by stirring doubts in others you want to turn the truth of God and the afterlife upside down.
The belief in God prompts the belief in the afterlife.
Such stirring of doubts concerning God and the Next Life was said by the idolaters of Mecca, and God said, in reply to their words:
Quran 67: 29, which means:
{Say, [Mohammed, to the disbelievers]: "It is He the Most Gracious: we have believed in Him [alone, as having no associate nor any son or daughter], and in Him we put [all] our trust [in preaching the religion of the Islam]; then [after your death] you will know which [of us] is in manifest error [: we or you.]}
The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
You are alive today. That is all you need concern yourself with. I normally do not quote very many people other than this one who said, " take no thought for tomorrow, for todays troubles are enough "
Also in reply to this objection, this aya was revealed midway between Mecca and Medina, during the migration of Prophet Mohammed:
Quran 28: 85, which means:
[When the Prophet arrived at Juhfa, which is a site midway between Mecca and Medina, and he recognized the way to Mecca, he longed for it; so Gabriel came to him and said: “Do you miss your hometown?”
He said: “Yes.”
[Gabriel] said: “Then God says:]
85. Surely, [God] Who has imposed upon you [Mohammed, to recite] the Quran [to people] will bring you [to Mecca] again [victorious over them, so don’t grieve for departing from it.]
[And when the associaters said to God’s messenger: “You are misguided away from the truth”, God – be glorified – said:]
Say, [Mohammed, to them]: "My Lord knows best which [of us] has brought the guidance, and which [of us] is in manifest error [I or you.]"
By this you delude yourself and others, like the one drinking wine so as to forget about his problems and his fate.
Quran 35: 5, which means:
{O people, surely the promise of God [about the reward and punishment] is true [that will not be broken.]
So let not the Worldly life deceive you [with its ornamentation and pleasures],
and let not [Satan] the Deceiver deceive you g to [disobey] God [depending on His indulgence and forgiveness.]}
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g By letting you wish and hope for the forgiveness in spite of insisting on the disobedience.
The interpretation is by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.
The ones called 'the rest' in Re:20 are sent to the grave on the same day that the ones in Re:20:4 are resurrected to life. How many references you would like from the Bible depends on how deep you want to explore the subject. I'd promote the two verses below could be expanded to include anout 10 very detailed references that would spell out what takes place very clearly, especially by people of this generation as they would be the first generation that had the ability to study all the holy books in detail rather than rely on prior judgments being made about what the books and passages mean.
Re:19:21:
And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse,
which sword proceeded out of his mouth:
and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Isa:65:12:
Therefore will I number you to the sword,
and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter:
because when I called,
ye did not answer;
when I spake,
ye did not hear;
but did evil before mine eyes,
and did choose that wherein I delighted not.
Jer:25:31-33:
A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth;
for the LORD hath a controversy with the nations,
he will plead with all flesh;
he will give them that are wicked to the sword,
saith the LORD.
Thus saith the LORD of hosts,
Behold,
evil shall go forth from nation to nation,
and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:
they shall not be lamented,
neither gathered,
nor buried;
they shall be dung upon the ground.
Eze:39:6:
And I will send a fire on Magog,
and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles:
and they shall know that I am the LORD.
Zec:14:12:
And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem;
Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet,
and their eyes shall consume away in their holes,
and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
Zec:13:8:
And it shall come to pass,
that in all the land,
saith the LORD,
two parts therein shall be cut off and die;
but the third shall be left therein.
Zec:13:9:
And I will bring the third part through the fire,
and will refine them as silver is refined,
and will try them as gold is tried:
they shall call on my name,
and I will hear them:
I will say,
It is my people:
and they shall say,
The LORD is my God.
Didn't I tell you that pigs were created in Palestine from the corpses of your ancestors: the disobedient?
That was after Nabuchodonosor defeated them.
Really?? You have a gasket that is in danger of popping. They were around as the unclean after the flood.
Le:11:7:
And the swine,
though he divide the hoof,
and be clovenfooted,
yet he cheweth not the cud;
he is unclean to you.
Le:11:7:
And the swine,
though he divide the hoof,
and be clovenfooted,
yet he cheweth not the cud;
he is unclean to you.
There was one hearing only the words he liked, while the words he did not like, he pretended not hearing them :lol:
What's matter with you and you enraged? You have any doubt about this!?
No fairy tales, ancient book, ..etc the rest of your words.
What's your proof and you deny it?
Do you think you have been created uselessly and in vain, and you will die and that's it? Do you really think this way?
So the guilty will be equal to the innocence.
None think as such but only the guilty .. so that he may get rif of any consequences.
Certainly.
Now I know that you are primitive barbarians. Human evolution has passed you by, it would seem.