Why Are So Many Christians So Un-Christian?

Cliffy

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I see "Ricky" doesn't really get it either.
No, I think it is the other way around. The creative force behind the Universe just is. You beliefs or what you imagine it is does not change it. It does not matter what you think or believe about it, there is only one Creative Force (god). The only thing different from your beliefs and those of any other religion (or even atheists) is in your imagination.
 

Motar

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No, I think it is the other way around. The creative force behind the Universe just is. You beliefs or what you imagine it is does not change it. It does not matter what you think or believe about it, there is only one Creative Force (god). The only thing different from your beliefs and those of any other religion (or even atheists) is in your imagination.

You're monotheistic, Cliffy.
 

Cliffy

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You're monotheistic, Cliffy.
Have I ever indicated otherwise? The point I have always tried to make is that everybody has a right to believe whatever they want to. What I object to is people who say "my way is the only true way" because there are as many ways home as there are people. Your way is the only way for you. The journey home is a personal one. Everyone is right to themselves. To me, preaching about your way is a sign that your beliefs are on such shaky ground that you need others to support you. When it comes to your personal relationship with the divine, there is no strength in numbers. You either have faith or you don't. That faith should be enough to carry you home. How you imagine that to be is only relevant to you.
 

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Have I ever indicated otherwise? The point I have always tried to make is that everybody has a right to believe whatever they want to. What I object to is people who say "my way is the only true way" because there are as many ways home as there are people. Your way is the only way for you. The journey home is a personal one. Everyone is right to themselves. To me, preaching about your way is a sign that your beliefs are on such shaky ground that you need others to support you. When it comes to your personal relationship with the divine, there is no strength in numbers. You either have faith or you don't. That faith should be enough to carry you home. How you imagine that to be is only relevant to you.

Is that why your always preaching?
 

Motar

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No, I think it is the other way around. The creative force behind the Universe just is. You beliefs or what you imagine it is does not change it. It does not matter what you think or believe about it, there is only one Creative Force (god). The only thing different from your beliefs and those of any other religion (or even atheists) is in your imagination.

Creationist, as well.

To me, preaching about your way is a sign that your beliefs are on such shaky ground that you need others to support you.

In my experience, discussing Christ in a Christian discussion forum is a means to spiritual growth.
 

Ludlow

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Creationist, as well.



In my experience, discussing Christ in a Christian discussion forum is a means to spiritual growth.
I wish more people who like to quote scripture all the time would spend a little more time on what he is written to have said, then on what the others have to say concerning the man.
 

Motar

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I wish more people who like to quote scripture all the time would spend a little more time on what he is written to have said, then on what the others have to say concerning the man.

Can you provide us with an example, LL?
 

Motar

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Just one. " you cross land and sea to make one convert, and you make them twofold more a child of hell, than you are yourself"
I Believe that one is in Mt. 23.

What about this verse troubles you, LL?
 

Motar

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To me, preaching about your way is a sign that your beliefs are on such shaky ground that you need others to support you.

Does writing and publishing books about "your way" constitute preaching, Cliffy?
 

Ludlow

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Evangelizing is a part of the Christian creed. I don't believe in it myself nor do I believe in apologetics. I feel it goes against the concept of faith. But as I am not a member of the religion I can feel that way. Im not altogether sure despite what is written in the books, that the man Jesus felt compelled to convert the world either. But I'm human and could very well be wrong. And that's okay too.