Simple question, would the world be more peaceful without the Quaran? Yes or no

Ludlow

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Not, what Angst, but who? Jesus made it change. He is the Living Word who lives it and offers others the ability to do likewise.



Never happened, TS.
What are you thinking Motar? There have been many atrocities committed in his name. Regardless of what he would think. Ever heard of the Spanish Inquisition?
 

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So you want to convert them to Christianity ?? That's your plan?

No, Angst. I do not want to convert them to Christianity and it is not my plan. Christ wants to reconcile them and us to Himself and in doing so to restore them and us to our God-given potential. And it's God's plan.
 

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No, Angst. I do not want to convert them to Christianity and it is not my plan. Christ wants to reconcile them and us to Himself and in doing so to restore them and us to our God-given potential. And it's God's plan.


and they are saying the same damn thing only using Mohamed and Allah instead of Christ and God.
 

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No, Angst. I do not want to convert them to Christianity and it is not my plan. Christ wants to reconcile them and us to Himself and in doing so to restore them and us to our God-given potential. And it's God's plan.

That is all assuming there is such a thing as god. And assuming this god is the one you pray to. Lot of assuming.
 

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Closer? If "we" are getting closer, then I would say that it has been you that has been "further" away. Not "we". I know and acknowledge the "dark underbelly" of the Christian Faith. Unlike you.




Most Muslims no longer accept violent jihad.


Correct on both counts.

At the same time, Christian malfeasance was never on the level or scale of that of Islam.

And the majority of Islam is irrelevant, as long as a significant portion supports jihad.
 

gerryh

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Correct on both counts.

At the same time, Christian malfeasance was never on the level or scale of that of Islam.

And the majority of Islam is irrelevant, as long as a significant portion supports jihad.


Really? I think you're wrong when we bring it down to percentages and we include EVERYTHING that has been done in "God's" name.
 

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That is all assuming there is such a thing as god. And assuming this god is the one you pray to. Lot of assuming.

The assumptions are yours, TS.

Really? You need this "explained"? Are you that closed minded and blind?

Your entire life is laid bare before Christ, gh. I can only see and understand what you disclose in polite discussion.
 

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If Muslims simply didn't existe at all, would the world be more peaceful?

Debate !!!!

No.

You only need to read Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire to see how Islam had raised the Muslim world to the height of civilization.

It's just a shame that that spirit has since died in most of the Muslim world.

Why do we tolerate a book that teaches that the only way to accomplish peace on earth is by forcing everyone to convert to Islam ? Do we tolerate books like that in our own culture?

According to the Old Testament, stoning is the law for violating any of the ten commandments, including disrespecting one's parents.
 

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No.

You only need to read Gibbon's Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire to see how Islam had raised the Muslim world to the height of civilization.

It's just a shame that that spirit has since died in most of the Muslim world.



According to the Old Testament, stoning is the law for violating any of the ten commandments, including disrespecting one's parents.

There we go? We don't tolerate that kind of stupidity even from Christians. Why are we tolerating it from Islam ?
 

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Here's a problem. You've an image of a religion. Your image is based on what is in the public eye which is the extremist factions. Therefore all Muslim's fit under this image you have. You've effectively dehumanized them based on your perspective which is not accurate at all. But you suggest reacting toward all Muslims as you would the extremists. It is short sighted and dangerous and dehumanizes millions, by the actions of a minority. It 's like judging Christians by the actions of Westboro Baptist. Reactions based on ignorance are what fuels anarchy and fascism. Take a little more time and a little more faith to let education have it's fruition. But in the long run, that's the only productive solution, to anything.
 

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Aztecs, Incas, Mayans ... Where are they now?

South and Central America and southern United States mostly, LW.

According to the Old Testament, stoning is the law for violating any of the ten commandments, including disrespecting one's parents.

Please post supporting Scripture(s), Mj.

Here's a problem. You've an image of a religion. Your image is based on what is in the public eye which is the extremist factions. Therefore all Muslim's fit under this image you have. You've effectively dehumanized them based on your perspective which is not accurate at all. But you suggest reacting toward all Muslims as you would the extremists. It is short sighted and dangerous and dehumanizes millions, by the actions of a minority. It 's like judging Christians by the actions of Westboro Baptist. Reactions based on ignorance are what fuels anarchy and fascism. Take a little more time and a little more faith to let education have it's fruition. But in the long run, that's the only productive solution, to anything.

Your wisdom is showing, LL.
 
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Lack of differences of opinion and views dose. This is what the quest of Bible is. If everyone worships the Bible you will have peace on earth. Fundamentally this is what the Bible teaches and are trying to accomplish.

As long as it hasn't accomplished this there will be no peace. This is why they call it the religion of peace. By converting everyone to a Christian,Because once the goal is accomplished, you will have peace on earth.

The goal is to establish a majority, in a reaction and once it has, they intimidate and shame anyone who opposes their Bible. Like they have already done in the West. And like they will do once they have enough population anywhere else.
You know, there was a time not too long ago when another religion was up to the same thing.