Is diversity really our strength? Why Chrystia Freeland made me ashamed to be Canadia

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Is diversity really our strength? Why Chrystia Freeland made me ashamed to be Canadian

Justin Trudeau appointed Chrystia Freeland as Minister of International Trade, and the mistake of picking someone for their gender over merit is already beginning to show.

I was disappointed and shocked watching the election results, but this video just made me ashamed to be Canadian.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWZnfNKoSpo

In the exchange, Bill Maher argues we must recognize some cultures are at odds with our own. There are in fact millions of radical Muslims across the world, and many of the refugees welcomed by Trudeau come from cultures that are dominated by Sharia law.

A sensible argument. But Freeland adamantly objects to this and suggests that not only are the cultures that gave rise to Sharia not worse than those of the west, but that the ideas themselves are not inferior either, and that it is offensive to suggest this.

So is Freeland right? Is diversity really Canada’s strength?

I know this may sound crazy, but if Canada were ever under attack I would probably pick a large, well-funded and technologically advanced army over a diverse one. I’m also certain that designating Ramadan, Diwali, Chinese New Year and Cinco de Mayo as national holidays won’t help us during an economic collapse. Likewise, appointing a gender balanced cabinet isn’t going to fix our health care system or stop child poverty anytime soon.

It’s not that diversity doesn’t have any role to play in Canada; it’s just that it’s ridiculous to say that it is Canada’s greatest strength. It’s simply something that’s nice and politically correct to spout out to the media – it won’t actually help us in any real world situations. Freeland uses “diversity is Canada’s strength” in much the same way that Trudeau uses “it’s 2015”, which is to end a conversation. The argument essentially is that if you contradict us, you’re a bigot. How dare you disagree with political correctness in the current year. Don’t you dare suggest diversity isn’t the best thing that’s ever happened to us.

Communities that speak the same language and share a culture together are stronger than those compiled of multiple different ones. Homogeneous nations bond together with a common identity – they do not fall apart and fracture in the same way that heterogeneous countries can do. In fact, if you look at examples of these nations such as Northern Ireland or Lebanon, you can clearly see huge ethnic and cultural divisions. Politicians have been trying for years to create a coherent strategy of power sharing between different sectors of society. I would rather not face this difficult situation in Canada – a consociational government comprised partly with supporters of sharia law would not be a positive outcome.

I don’t think anyone can disagree that it is enlightening, eye opening and educational to participate in different cultural events, make friends who grew up in different cultures, learn different dances and try different foods. We can discover the history of different groups, their traditions and their religions. I certainly can’t argue that any of these things are negative aspects of diversity. However, such things only come to fruition when dealing with peaceful groups – this is not the reality of the forced diversity that we have in the west, which is what Freeland wants to implement. The new cultures that are being imported into Canada have different core ideological principles to ours; some of their key tenets also go against basic Canadian values, such as the rule of law and equality between men and women.

In fact, this is exactly what Maher highlights in the video when he points out the extreme totalitarianism of Sharia law. Freeland, chillingly, continues to state that all ideas are equal and repeat “diversity is Canada’s strength” like a broken record. It is easy to see that Trudeau and his cabinet have yet to wrap their heads around the simple fact that those who want our laws and social norms to be based on the teachings of the Koran are at odds with a democratic culture that supports freedom.

The real strength of Canada is not diversity, but our culture of liberty and the fact that we accept those people who want to embrace or conform to it. I worry that our government no longer concerns itself with properly ensuring that migrants reject their old authoritarian ideas and integrate into liberal western society. I fear that Trudeau’s narrative is more important to him than safety of Canadians and our wonderful history.

War is peace, freedom is slavery, diversity is strength.

source: Is diversity really our strength? Why Chrystia Freeland made me ashamed to be Canadian - The Rebel

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Keeping getting milage out of this story..
 

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Freeland does what all PC and all Liberals do; they interrupt and shout down anyone who has a different point of view. PC and Liberals never admit that there is indeed another valid point of view besides their own.
I agree that the basic tenets of Islam have to be changed before they can be assimilated successfully into secular countries.
Saying only a small percent, only a few doesn't cut it! Only a small percent or only 'a few' is a small percentage/a few too many to allow them the opportunity to challenge, mock and disregard our laws. One terrorist can kill/maim a hell of a lot of people, in a mall, a theatre, a concert hall, a sports arena or God forbid, in a school!
There will be a terrorist attack in Canada. It is not a matter of if, it is a matter of when. And when it happens, if a recent refugee is implicated in any small way, the Liberals will cover it up and make excuses for it.
It is a shameful blight on Canada that our government can't heed the lessons learned from other countries and exercise caution.
 

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Freeland does what all PC and all Liberals do; they interrupt and shout down anyone who has a different point of view. PC and Liberals never admit that there is indeed another valid point of view besides their own.
Oh, you mean like Bill O'reilly and Ezra Levant. You are starting to sound like a teabagger.
 

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Are you saying it's not true?
Behind a hatred is fear. Yes I'm saying you are spreading your unfounded fears as if they had any validity. 90%, if not more, of all terrorist attacks in Canada and the US have been carried out by white christian right wing fruit loops. Stop watching FOX. It will rot your brain.
 

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most of those terrorist nutbars were working for the government
(how about them craft int knapsacks at the boston blow out, eh?
or the state dept putting the underwear bomber on the plane without a passport and with a camera man...and NOW there are several witness who saw three tall white shooters at bakersfield)

o really is a sex offender who has paid settlements out
he was once a conspiracy theorist
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exactly the type of compromised face piece the ptb love

its all propaghandy
 
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Behind a hatred is fear. Yes I'm saying you are spreading your unfounded fears as if they had any validity. 90%, if not more, of all terrorist attacks in Canada and the US have been carried out by white christian right wing fruit loops. Stop watching FOX. It will rot your brain.
And once again your stupidity comes flying out for all to see. Pretty much every terrorist attack in Canada has been the result of leftards and foreign nationals..
Let's see now, leftist groups in Canada have firebombed pipelines, refineries, banks and Armed Forces recruiting centers. Cubans have bombed the Cuban embassy AND native trade delegations on more than one occasion. Armenians have bombed the Turkish embassy in Canada, more than once. In fact here's a list of terror attacks in Canada. Good luck finding any recent attacks by right wing Christian fundies in Canada, other than maybe the three by the Sons of Freedom, and their last "adventure" was in 1960.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Canada
 

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The irrational has begun to dominate our politics as if the American virus has stealthily moved north to infect our national narratives. It reflects itself in various ways but it seems that wars – old wars, current wars and future wars – have gripped the minds of our political elite and their courtiers in the media.


Most problematic is Chrystia Freeland whose well-documented hostility towards Russia raises questions about her suitability for the foreign affairs post. She got off almost scot-free for blatantly lying about her Nazi grandfather. Justin Trudeau lost his reason regarding the U.S. missile attack on Syria and we were subjected to an extra-heavy dose of non-sense about Vimy Ridge with Trudeau opining that “this was Canada at its best.”

As for the mendacious Ms. Freeland, why on earth is she still in one of the most important cabinet posts in the Trudeau government? She got a pass on her grandfather’s record with the help of media groupthink along the lines of “we can’t blame her for her Nazi grandfather.” But no one ever did. Critics blamed her for knowing her grandfather was a Nazi collaborator for two decades and saying nothing, and for never denouncing him (she still hasn’t). Critics also blamed her for lying about him – actually portraying him in her autobiography as almost a freedom fighter: “My maternal grandparents fled western Ukraine after Hitler and Stalin signed their non-aggression pact in 1939. They never dared to go back…”

Well, yes, he did leave Ukraine. Freeland’s grandfather Mykhailo Chomiak spent the entire war in Poland editing the Nazi-run newspaper Krakivski Visti (News of Krakow) under the orders of the Nazis’ Polish Governor-General Hans Frank, the man who organized the Holocaust in Poland. Chomiak and his family moved into an apartment seized from a Jewish family and ran the newspaper from editorial offices of a former Polish-language Jewish newspaper, Nowy Dziennik, whose editor ended up being murdered at the Belzec concentration camp along with 600,000 other Jews.

Critics also blame Freeland for repeatedly refusing to answer direct questions about her grandfather. Her office gave the Hillary Clinton defence: “People should be questioning where this information comes from, and the motivations behind it.” Freeland herself tried to deflect them with references to Russian disinformation: “American officials have publicly said … there were efforts on the Russian side to destabilize Western democracies, and I think it shouldn’t come as a surprise if these same efforts were used against Canada.” What disinformation would that be? Not, apparently, the crude attempts at whitewashing her grandfather’s role in Poland.

That whitewashing includes efforts to downplay just how pro-Nazi the newspaper was. Yet Krakivski Visti was a vicious propaganda tool fomenting as much hatred of Jews as it could. The writer Juilan Tarnovych wrote a series, “Out of Satan’s Claws,” in which he referred to Jews as “Yid mobs,” “bastards,” “rotten scum,” “bacillus,” “that riffraff – that nest of crawling kikes,” and “a pile of crawling worms.” Chomiak himself wrote editorials claiming Poland was “infected by the Jews.”

Perhaps the explanation lies in the fact that Freeland is, like her father and grandfather, a devoted Ukrainian nationalist with a deep-seated hostility towards Russia. Even when she was a journalist with the Financial Times she did not hide her fierce Ukrainian nationalism – encouraging the Euromaidan rebellion that became a violent coup against Russian-friendly Viktor Yanukovich. Freeland’s take? “Their victory will be a victory for us all; their defeat will weaken democracy far from the Euromaidan. We are all Ukrainians now. Let’s do what we can … to support them.”

The democracy that resulted from the coup was not quite as advertised. Freeland’s Nazi ghosts came to life in the new government which was chock-a-block with outright Nazis. The new government had five cabinet members from the Svoboda Party – proud descendants of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) who fought against the Red Army alongside the Nazis. In 1941 the OUN sent a message to Lvov’s Jews in the form of a pamphlet which said: “We will lay your heads at Hitler’s feet.” The OUN and the SS arrested and executed 4,000 of the city’s Jews.

It is rare to see a modern politician so blinded by personal hostility. To place Chrystia Freeland in the position of foreign minister is nothing short of reckless. If her bias was against Luxembourg it would hardly matter. But the world is now closer to a nuclear holocaust than at any time since the Reagan administration. The relationship between the West and Russia is now the most important geopolitical issue on the planet.

How can we trust someone who has shown hostility towards Russia to the extent that Freeland has to lead Canada in navigating these treacherous foreign policy waters? Does her blindness prevent her from imagining the potential for nuclear war? Is she capable of accepting that Russia has legitimate interests? Are we risking a Freeland blunder in a situation that requires nuance?

Regarding Russia the question arises of whether or not the tail is wagging the dog in the Trudeau government. Trudeau pledged in the last election to rebuild relations with Russia. Now Canada is demanding that “Assad must go” (via Freeland) – pure posturing especially given there is no evidence yet of who used gas against Syrian civilians. Then Trudeau added to the embarrassment by demanding Russia abandon Assad, something everyone knows is not going to happen. But it will add to Putin’s paranoia that the West is out to get him.

Someone should ask Trudeau just who he is trying to please by keeping this flawed politician in such a powerful post.

https://canadiandimension.com/artic...flawed-politician-as-foreign-affairs-minister
 

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Behind a hatred is fear. Yes I'm saying you are spreading your unfounded fears as if they had any validity. 90%, if not more, of all terrorist attacks in Canada and the US have been carried out by white christian right wing fruit loops. Stop watching FOX. It will rot your brain.
You're an idiot. Stop reading revisionist leftard bullsh*t, it'll make you stupid. Oooops, too late.

Here's a list of terror attacks and plots in Canada. Notice how f*cking few were committed by the group you mentioned.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Canada

Feel free to point out all the right-wing Christians in that list. Dumbass!
Hell, the leftards have committed about as many acts of terror in Canada as the FLQ in Quebec.
Since 1999 there have been 9 terror events and plots by Muslims.
Since 1999 there have only been two terror attacks/plots that weren't Muslim originated. The bombing of 6 natgas pipelines in Dawson Creek by eco-warrior leftards and the recent mosque shooting in Quebec.

Annnnd of course these days we have the govt and their media lapdogs doing everything they can to hide any news of Muslims acting like sh*t heads in our country. And when news does get out, rest assured the apologists and sympathizers will be out in full force yet again trying to explain how Islam is a religion of peace.
 

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You're an idiot. Stop reading revisionist leftard bullsh*t, it'll make you stupid. Oooops, too late.

Here's a list of terror attacks and plots in Canada. Notice how f*cking few were committed by the group you mentioned.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Canada

Feel free to point out all the right-wing Christians in that list. Dumbass!
Hell, the leftards have committed about as many acts of terror in Canada as the FLQ in Quebec.
Since 1999 there have been 9 terror events and plots by Muslims.
Since 1999 there have only been two terror attacks/plots that weren't Muslim originated. The bombing of 6 natgas pipelines in Dawson Creek by eco-warrior leftards and the recent mosque shooting in Quebec.

Annnnd of course these days we have the govt and their media lapdogs doing everything they can to hide any news of Muslims acting like sh*t heads in our country. And when news does get out, rest assured the apologists and sympathizers will be out in full force yet again trying to explain how Islam is a religion of peace.

I'll put it as straight as I can. Do some Muslims commit terrorist acts? Yep. Are some Muslims sh*theads and act it out. You bet.

But then the question is, do some non-Muslim Canadians commit terrorist acts? And are some non-Muslim Canadians sh*theads?

If so, then why would you treat all Muslims based on the conduct of some Muslims, but not treat non-Muslims based on the conduct of some non-Muslims?

I note you used the term "our country." Who, exactly, is the we in "our?"
 

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Most problematic is Chrystia Freeland whose well-documented hostility towards Russia raises questions about her suitability for the foreign affairs post.

Sane people would suggest it's about the only good reason for her to be in the job.

I've never really understood this love of Putin the anarchists of the far left and far right have. He's a ridiculous person who eclipses Donald Trump in his narcissism and preening. How many times have we seen his scrawny, pale skinned body strutting around like he's expecting people to tuck dollar bills into his crotch? He's also far nastier, murdering anyone who gets in his way or criticizes him. His country is filled with poverty, while the oil money goes to him and his rich friends and to sustaining an enormous military he can wave around the world to make himself seem important. He's got the worst case of small man syndrome I've seen in my lifetime. Why you people worship him is really beyond me.
 

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Sane people would suggest it's about the only good reason for her to be in the job.

I've never really understood this love of Putin the anarchists of the far left and far right have. He's a ridiculous person who eclipses Donald Trump in his narcissism and preening. How many times have we seen his scrawny, pale skinned body strutting around like he's expecting people to tuck dollar bills into his crotch? He's also far nastier, murdering anyone who gets in his way or criticizes him. His country is filled with poverty, while the oil money goes to him and his rich friends and to sustaining an enormous military he can wave around the world to make himself seem important. He's got the worst case of small man syndrome I've seen in my lifetime. Why you people worship him is really beyond me.
Mark this day on your calendar, V. I agree with you completely.

BUT. . . don't forget her GRANDFATHER was a NAZI!
 

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I'll put it as straight as I can. Do some Muslims commit terrorist acts? Yep. Are some Muslims sh*theads and act it out. You bet.

But then the question is, do some non-Muslim Canadians commit terrorist acts? And are some non-Muslim Canadians sh*theads?

If so, then why would you treat all Muslims based on the conduct of some Muslims, but not treat non-Muslims based on the conduct of some non-Muslims?

I note you used the term "our country." Who, exactly, is the we in "our?"

This is the typical screed of the progressive left. "Hey, terrorism is only committed by a few Muslims! And lots of other people commit terrorist acts too!"

Well no. Muslims have committed tens of thousands of terrorist acts in the name of Islam since 9/11 far, far and away eclipsing everyone else combined.

And it's not just 'a few' Muslims. Sam Harris makes the point that at least 20% of the Muslim world is made up of Islamists. They might not all be blowing stuff up but they definitely support blowing stuff up. They fully support executing anyone who disses the prophet or the koran, or who tries to leave Islam, as well as gays adulterers, etc. On top of them is another large group of Muslims who might not be willing to kill apostates and blasphemers themselves, but they don't support freedom of speech. A poll taken in the UK showed almost 70% of British Muslims felt publishing the Danish cartoons on Muhammed ought to be a criminal act.

None of which is surprising, because there's nothing ISIS has done that Muhammad and his merry band of killers and cutthroats didn't do too.
 

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I'll put it as straight as I can. Do some Muslims commit terrorist acts? Yep. Are some Muslims sh*theads and act it out. You bet.

But then the question is, do some non-Muslim Canadians commit terrorist acts? And are some non-Muslim Canadians sh*theads?

If so, then why would you treat all Muslims based on the conduct of some Muslims, but not treat non-Muslims based on the conduct of some non-Muslims?
Your first mistake is assuming I don't. Second, when you have to try and pass motions and laws to force respect for your personal beliefs on a population, then one can safely assume your personal beliefs aren't worth respecting. You know, similar to what the White man did to the Native people with Christianity. I mean what next, are the Libtards going to pass motions and laws making it a "hate crime" to have a problem with their Liberal ideology? OH wait, never mind, Trudeau is already trying to get that done as well.
I note you used the term "our country." Who, exactly, is the we in "our?"
Those who worked and those who are currently working to actually build this country, regardless of their ethnicity or country of origin.
 

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Behind a hatred is fear. Yes I'm saying you are spreading your unfounded fears as if they had any validity. 90%, if not more, of all terrorist attacks in Canada and the US have been carried out by white christian right wing fruit loops. Stop watching FOX. It will rot your brain.

Tell that to the 238 innocent people murdered, and 852 wounded in 18 terror attacks in France alone in 2015-16.

We do not want to go there.