Is diversity really our strength? Why Chrystia Freeland made me ashamed to be Canadia

Tecumsehsbones

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And it's not just 'a few' Muslims. Sam Harris makes the point that at least 20% of the Muslim world is made up of Islamists. They might not all be blowing stuff up but they definitely support blowing stuff up.
How does Sam Harris arrive at that figure? Besides being Sam Harris, that is.
They fully support executing anyone who disses the prophet or the koran, or who tries to leave Islam, as well as gays adulterers, etc. On top of them is another large group of Muslims who might not be willing to kill apostates and blasphemers themselves, but they don't support freedom of speech. A poll taken in the UK showed almost 70% of British Muslims felt publishing the Danish cartoons on Muhammed ought to be a criminal act.
Yeah, boy, supporting legislation to criminalize something is TERRORISM!

Let's cut to the chase, shall we? You want to discriminate against people for membership in a certain religion. That's pretty much the definition of religious discrimination.

Your first mistake is assuming I don't.
I made no assumptions at all. I framed some questionsin the hope of getting some sense out of you.

Waste of time, clearly.

Second, when you have to try and pass motions and laws to force respect for your personal beliefs on a population, then one can safely assume your personal beliefs aren't worth respecting.
I agree.

You know, similar to what the White man did to the Native people with Christianity. I mean what next, are the Libtards going to pass motions and laws making it a "hate crime" to have a problem with their Liberal ideology? OH wait, never mind, Trudeau is already trying to get that done as well.
Well, I'm certainly not going to deny all y'all Canadians never were really on board with freedom of speech.

Those who worked and those who are currently working to actually build this country, regardless of their ethnicity or country of origin.
Even if they're Muzzies?

Tell that to the 238 innocent people murdered, and 852 wounded in 18 terror attacks in France alone in 2015-16.

We do not want to go there.
What's the trigger? I mean, how many people need to be murdered by members of "X" group to justify blanket discrimination against that group?
 

Jinentonix

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Let's cut to the chase, shall we? You want to discriminate against people for membership in a certain religion. That's pretty much the definition of religious discrimination.
Unfortunately in this case, discrimination also includes criticism and mockery, yet the other 2 of the "Big 3" aren't afforded the same respect now are they? Hell, pop culture constantly rips on Christians and Jews, but Muslims? Oh my goodness gracious no. You must fully respect their beliefs and treat those beliefs as seriously as they do or else you're some kind of hater. That's the kind of crap that's going on. I fully agree that nobody should be discriminated against simply because of their personal beliefs. You shouldn't be denied jobs, or housing or services simply because of what you believe. Yet we've had several instances where Muslims openly discriminated against disabled people only to have those instances swept under the carpet.
We've seen it time and time again over here. Christians discriminate against gay people and those Christians and their beliefs are deplorable. Muslims discriminate against disabled people and those who aren't busy ignoring it are making up excuses as to why it's religiously acceptable for a Muslim to deny service to a disabled person. And yet, somehow I'm intolerant because I have a problem with that. Somehow I'm intolerant because I refuse to respect some idiotic personal beliefs.
You see Tec, when you're afraid to equally apply the rules or laws to a person because of what they are, that is also a form of racism or discrimination. But apparently I'm intolerant because I have a problem with my govt being that racist/discriminatory.
I made no assumptions at all. I framed some questionsin the hope of getting some sense out of you.

Waste of time, clearly.
Only because you didn't get the response you were anticipating.

Even if they're Muzzies?
Well as soon as someone can point out how any of them have contributed to Canada in any meaningful way, sure.

What's the trigger? I mean, how many people need to be murdered by members of "X" group to justify blanket discrimination against that group?
Ask some of your own people that question. Ask BLM. Ask the anti-gun crowd.

It's all about the narrative. Look at what just happened in Ohio. Do you think the anti-gun crowd will be screaming about how you need better gun laws? Probably not. Do you think the MSM will be following every detail like a bloodhound? Not likely. Nope, the lefties are simply waiting to see how his arrest goes down.

Look at the BLM narrative. They started protesting over the number being shot by cops. The MSM ran with the narrative too and yet in 2015 only 4% of the Black people killed in the US were killed by police. But that doesn't matter. The narrative says otherwise and must be believed.

The mosque shooting in Quebec City is probably one of the most notable examples of leftist narrative hypocrisy in Canada. I don't believe the CBC has ever used the words "Muslim" and "terrorism" in the same paragraph, let alone the same sentence. But one of their "journalists" sure had no problem alluding to the QC mosque shooting as being a case of Christian terrorism.
So, 9 attacks/foiled terror plots by Muslims in Canada since 1999 and none of them had to do with religion and are even dismissed as terrorism, according to the leftist narrative. But one terror attack against Muslims in Canada is an absolutely 100% guaranteed act of Christian terrorism.

Christ, you aren't any better bucky boy. Remember the "veil" incident in London, ON last summer when some Muslim woman was accosted at the mall? To help you refresh your memory, you were quick to blame "Old Stock Canadians" for it. Turned out it was a Persian woman who had a problem with the Muslim. Kind of funny when you think about it. You're trying to preach to me about religious discrimination even though you engage in your own form of bigotry.
 

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It's simple people... we have a economic pyramid scam to uphold.


We have two options.

Immigration

Or pro Life anti abortion


The whole thing runs on population growth to pay off our debt. It's simple mathematics.

We can not ignore population growth, it has to happen which ever way.

Importing immigrants that produce a ton of kids is essential to the survival of our pyramid scam.
 

Vbeacher

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How does Sam Harris arrive at that figure? Besides being Sam Harris, that is.

It wasn't him that arrived at it. He was quoting another organization, which measured the political support in terms of votes for Islamist groups in places like, Lebanon, Iraq, Pakistan and Egypt, along with polls showing support for Islamist policies like execution for blasphemy.

Yeah, boy, supporting legislation to criminalize something is TERRORISM!
So you'd have no problem with people supporting legislation to exterminate all natives, right? I mean, that wouldn't mark them as hateful or violent people? Would you cheer on the immigration of tens of thousands of members of that religion into Canada every year?

Let's cut to the chase, shall we? You want to discriminate against people for membership in a certain religion. That's pretty much the definition of religious discrimination.

Wow! What a simplistic answer! Again, how would you feel about a religion which believed that God wanted all natives dead with their hearts cut out on an alter? Would you feel it wrong to 'discriminate' against them?