Freedom of speech and thought and equality is what the West is and Islam forbids it.

[selfsame]

Religion is the greatest impediment to freedom there is.

I don't defend every religion; but the religion of God is that which I defend.
If one asks, discusses and thinks .. this is the required thing.
Man should not blindly adopt ideas and beliefs.

Quran 2: 170
{When they f are told, "Follow [the statements] that God has revealed [in the Quran]," they say, "We follow only [the traditions and customs] that we found our fathers holding!"

What if their fathers did not understand g, and were not guided [to the truth]?}
........................................................

f i.e. the pagan Arab, of the pre-Islam ignorance.
g Had they used their minds and reason, they would not have worshipped the stone.

 

[Johnnny]

Rejecting the truth because you don't like the messenger is just plain silly.

Anyone can say what jessy said. I accept the message just not jesse

 

[selfsame]

If this man believes what he claims, then he is wrong and has turned the facts upside down obviously.
But if he lies (i.e. he knows the truth and pretends he does not), then he is a Devil.

 

[Ludlow]

I don't defend every religion; but the religion of God is that which I defend.
If one asks, discusses and thinks .. this is the required thing.
Man should not blindly adopt ideas and beliefs.

Quran 2: 170
{When they f are told, "Follow [the statements] that God has revealed [in the Quran]," they say, "We follow only [the traditions and customs] that we found our fathers holding!"

What if their fathers did not understand g, and were not guided [to the truth]?}
........................................................

f i.e. the pagan Arab, of the pre-Islam ignorance.
g Had they used their minds and reason, they would not have worshipped the stone.

You abandoned and forsook your pagan roots you Infidel you. Why'd you do it can't any of you ****s display some sense of loyalty?

Seem like you'll drop your draws and bend over for any ole religion that slinks close by. Yer a harlot sir.")

 

[selfsame]

You abandoned and forsook your pagan roots you Infidel you. Why'd you do it can't any of you ****s display some sense of loyalty?

Of course I disbelieve in the idols and believe in God alone; I reject the ignorance of the idolatry and embrace the light of the Islam: God's religion.

Quran 2: 256-257
256. {[There can be] no compulsion in religion [: none can compel you to be disbelievers a;]
the correct way [of the Islam] has been made distinct from the error [of the association and idolatry.] b
And anyone [of you] rejects [Abu-Jahl] the tyrant c, and believes in God [Alone, joining no associates with Him,] has indeed grasped a most firm handle [of ship] which is never detachable, [so he will not be drowned and will be safe of Hell if he follows the religion of the Islam.] d
God is All-Hearing [of your words], All-Knowing [of your intentions, O idolaters!]

257. God is the Patron of the believers [: He takes care about their affairs]; He brings them out of the darkness [of ignorance and unbelief] to the light [of knowledge and the Islam.]
But those who disbelieve [in the Quran and in Mohammed]: their patrons are [their arrogant chiefs:] the tyrants, [who] bring them out of the light [of knowledge and guidance brought by Mohammed] to the darkness [of ignorance and unbelief, when they invite them to their religion of the idolatry] – such [chiefs and their followers] are the fellows of Fire, to dwell therein forever.}
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a i.e. none has any authority or control to compel you to keep up to your religion.

b i.e. after the correctness and truth of the Islam religion has become distinct to you from the deception and error of your religion of the disbelief, idolatry and association.

c and does not obey him.

d i.e. this is a parable about one who is saved from destruction; i.e. like one drowned in the sea, and he sees a ship coming towards him, with many handles attached to it, so if he holds one of these handles, and it is firm, strong and is not detachable, he will be saved by it from the drowning.

So likewise, anyone holds fast with the Islam religion, will be safe of Hell and will go to Paradise [in heaven.]

The interpretation was written by Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly.

 

[Cliffy]

If this man believes what he claims, then he is wrong and has turned the facts upside down obviously.
But if he lies (i.e. he knows the truth and pretends he does not), then he is a Devil.

The mind that believes is no longer open to the truth. Your mind is a locked and sealed prison.

 

[Ludlow]

You gave up your tail for any ole religion that came along you harlot. No loyalty, no sense of tradition . You threw away your reality for some pretty talk. Anything so that you can get your 72 man virgins I know you.

 

[French Patriot]

I don't defend every religion; but the religion of God is that which I defend.
If one asks, discusses and thinks .. this is the required thing.
Man should not blindly adopt ideas and beliefs.

Quran 2: 170
{When they f are told, "Follow [the statements] that God has revealed [in the Quran]," they say, "We follow only [the traditions and customs] that we found our fathers holding!"

What if their fathers did not understand g, and were not guided [to the truth]?}
........................................................

f i.e. the pagan Arab, of the pre-Islam ignorance.
g Had they used their minds and reason, they would not have worshipped the stone.

You forget that Allah and God are titles. You follow a title when Jesus, a prophet you are supposed to follow, tells you not to.

John 6 ; 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.


Luke 11:52 Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered.


Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Regards
DL

If this man believes what he claims, then he is wrong and has turned the facts upside down obviously.
But if he lies (i.e. he knows the truth and pretends he does not), then he is a Devil.

Compare his words to this graph and tell us if he is correct or not.


9 out of 10 Americans are completely wrong about this mind-blowing fact.


Regards
DL

 

[selfsame]

The mind that believes is no longer open to the truth. Your mind is a locked and sealed prison.

No, it is not my mind that is locked.

But see this man: how he lies to himself and to others: he turned the facts upside down, and ignored the fact that the West has destroyed the Muslim countries and occupied and devastated them and led to killing of millions of people and to their living in misery in their homelands, so they suffered much from very bad economic, social and health consequences.

You forget that Allah and God are titles. You follow a title when Jesus, a prophet you are supposed to follow, tells you not to.

So according to your idea: Jesus did not invite people to God!?
Live and see so many strange things! .. This is a aparble in Arabic.

 

[French Patriot]

So according to your idea: Jesus did not invite people to God!?

Live and see so many strange things! .. This is a aparble in Arabic.

Jesus invites us to seek God. Not to find one in a book as you have done and turn that into an idol to worship.


As those quotes indicates, he says to look inside of yourself. Not in a book of myths from a pedophile prophet.


Regards
DL

 

[petros]

Anyone can say what jessy said. I accept the message just not jesse

Apparently you need as head injury to see the light. Cliffy, flossy, and Jesse are prime examples.

 

[AnnaG]

meh A person's religion should be a personal issue and kept to oneself or one's synagogue, church, mosque, or home.
And although I think feminism was handy for turning the overly paternal tide into something a bit more egalitarian, even THAT has some pretty fanatical and occasionally even extremist elements in it.
People are people to me. The ones I cannot take seriously are those that do not treat others like they would treat themselves as a habit. But I also know that no-one is perfect and everyone is a hypocrite so an occasional slip is fine.

Islam can't stand examination under a bright light.

Me either. They are either too bright or raise the temperature too high. Air at body temperature is about my maximum comfort limit.

Regards.
If you are free and democratic, why do you try to impede the Islam and the Quran?

Silly question. Because Islam and the Quran are not particularly egalitarian nor sensible.

 

[selfsame]

Jesus invites us to seek God. Not to find one in a book as you have done and turn that into an idol to worship.


As those quotes indicates, he says to look inside of yourself. Not in a book of myths from a pedophile prophet.


Regards
DL

Now, we return again to the pedophile ...didn't Jesus tell you to be truthful?
If you had been God-fearing you would not have said such words.
How can you be sure of such accusation?
Many times before, I have discussed this thing, and that his wife was young, but not child.

And it is a sectarian matter, because this wife is glorified by some sect who lied and fabricated many traditions and prophetic hadiths for her behalf, and other traditions were fabricated by another sect; but nothing of that is cited in the Quran.

Moreover, Prophet Mohammed respected Jesus Christ, and God tells us in the Quran to say: salam to Jesus and the other apostles when mentioned before us, but not to glorify him or exaggerate in loving him or join him with God as a part in Trinity or consider him as God Himself or son of God; no he is only an honored and respected prophet, messenger and servant of God, and he does not disdain this.

 

[AnnaG]

I don't defend every religion; but the religion of God is that which I defend.

Exactly, you defend a religion that says killing, maiming, and torturing children because of the adults' behaviours is a good thing.
You defend a religion that says humans should be treated differently simply because of gender.

If one asks, discusses and thinks .. this is the required thing.

Only if those questions, discussions, and thoughts are slaves to a religion.

Man should not blindly adopt ideas and beliefs.

Yet most people do just that.

 

[AnnaG]

No, it is not my mind that is locked.

I tend to agree. It seems that you do not have one (or at least one that is yours).

 

[gerryh]

Now, we return again to the pedophile ...didn't Jesus tell you to be truthful?
If you had been God-fearing you would not have said such words.
How can you be sure of such accusation?
Many times before, I have discussed this thing, and that his wife was young, but not child.

She was 9 yrs old. That IS a child.

 

[selfsame]

Exactly, you defend a religion that says killing, maiming, and torturing children because of the adults' behaviours is a good thing.
You defend a religion that says humans should be treated differently simply because of gender.
Only if those questions, discussions, and thoughts are slaves to a religion.
Yet most people do just that.

How can you believe such lies?
Say these points one by one: one only each time and I may answer you. But not bring so much points at one time; because this will be confusion.

 

[DaSleeper]

Must be nice to have your mind locked and your opinions fixed. Even stupid people occasionally say something profound and intelligent.

The mind that believes is no longer open to the truth. Your mind is a locked and sealed prison.

Says the pot........

 

[selfsame]

She was 9 yrs old. That IS a child.

She was not 9 years old. She was young, that's right, but not child.
How can you insist on that, unless you are unfair?

 

[AnnaG]

Now, we return again to the pedophile ...didn't Jesus tell you to be truthful?
If you had been God-fearing you would not have said such words.
How can you be sure of such accusation?
Many times before, I have discussed this thing, and that his wife was young, but not child.

Aisha's and Muhammad's nikah? Aisha was 6 years old and 3 years later became his wife. Aisha was a CHILD. Hadiths tell of this.
You are insane.

And it is a sectarian matter, because this wife is glorified by some sect who lied and fabricated many traditions and prophetic hadiths for her behalf, and other traditions were fabricated by another sect; but nothing of that is cited in the Quran.

Moreover, Prophet Mohammed respected Jesus Christ, and God tells us in the Quran to say: salam to Jesus and the other apostles when mentioned before us, but not to glorify him or exaggerate in loving him or join him with God as a part in Trinity or consider him as God Himself or son of God; no he is only an honored and respected prophet, messenger and servant of God, and he does not disdain this.

Muhammad respected nothing and ONLY thought about himself and the state of his celebrity.