Here's what a PM that's NOT racist looks like

[davesmom]

First Nations are putting a lot of hope into Trudeau's promises. It's hardly likely he'll be able to deliver to the extent they are anticipating. I wonder what they'll do then?
It's beginning to look like the same old same old; Liberals throw a bunch of money at a problem and think they problem has been solved. No follow up, no attention to the outcome, no accountability. When things go wrong the problem remains, the money's gone and if it gets called to their attention that the problem's still there, they'll throw more money at it.
The study they are going to do has already been done. If it hadn't, how did the recommendations get made? To study it again is redundant. What is needed now is action. It looks like studying once again will just delay the action and give them some time to come up with more smoke and mirror tricks.

 

[Walter]

First Nations are putting a lot of hope into Trudeau's promises. It's hardly likely he'll be able to deliver to the extent they are anticipating. I wonder what they'll do then?
It's beginning to look like the same old same old; Liberals throw a bunch of money at a problem and think they problem has been solved. No follow up, no attention to the outcome, no accountability. When things go wrong the problem remains, the money's gone and if it gets called to their attention that the problem's still there, they'll throw more money at it.
The study they are going to do has already been done. If it hadn't, how did the recommendations get made? To study it again is redundant. What is needed now is action. It looks like studying once again will just delay the action and give them some time to come up with more smoke and mirror tricks.

Liberals govern by feelings not by reason.

 

[AnnaG]

Take notes helmet heads.


Trudeau lays out plan for new relationship with indigenous people

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau laid out his plan to reset Canada's relationship with its indigenous people during his address to a group of First Nations leaders in Gatineau, Que.

"It is time for a renewed, nation-to-nation relationship with First Nations peoples, one that understands that the constitutionally guaranteed rights of First Nations in Canada are not an inconvenience but rather a sacred obligation," said Trudeau to loud applause from First Nations chiefs this morning.

Hundreds of chiefs and other First Nations delegates are meeting at an annual three-day gathering organized by the Assembly of First Nations.

The prime minister said his government would immediately move to act on several of the promises his party made during the election campaign, including a process to launch a national public inquiry into missing and murdered indigenous women which he said was "already underway."

"We have made this inquiry a priority for our government because those touched by this national tragedy have waited long enough," said Trudeau. "The victims deserve justice, their families an opportunity to be heard and to heal."

Trudeau lays out plan for new relationship with indigenous people - Politics - CBC News

Really? I guess we will see if anything transpires.

meh Typical peroration full of promises from a politician. So?

 

[mentalfloss]

Actually, removing the 2% cap is pretty substantial.

 

[AnnaG]

The aboriginals are like teenagers that won't look after themselves yet complain about what's put on the dinner table for them.

And white-eyes are all greedy, hateful, genocidal, shallow liars with no moral fiber and not a inkling of wisdom among them.

Yes. Like Kweebeck, they are free to go. Like Kweebeck, they have chosen to stay. Like Kweebeck, they want "nationhood" status without "nationhood" responsibility. Like Kweebeck, they should be told you are not a nation. If you want to be one, then go be one. Leave you're Canadian passports at the door.

There are self-governing First Nations regardless of what you say. They have created alliances with Canada and only a fool like you would suggest they go anywhere. They were not even seeking independence in the same sense as Americans sought independence from Brits.

 

[Machjo]

On the other hand Canada is considered one of the best places to live on the planet. The liberals must have done something right among all the wrong things they did.

They confiscated indigenous lands and separated children from their parents for over 100 years. Confiscating the land made English and French Canadians richer and sticking needles in children's tongues in schools promoted the dream of official bilingualism.

 

[Cannuck]

They confiscated indigenous lands and separated children from their parents for over 100 years. Confiscating the land made English and French Canadians richer and sticking needles in children's tongues in schools promoted the dream of official bilingualism.

Yeah yeah yeah. It's all been said before. The question is, where to go from here. you are either like me and believe in the equality of citizenry or you don't

 

[AnnaG]

or you can SAY you do, but do not. Or you can say you do not, but do.

 

[Machjo]

Yeah yeah yeah. It's all been said before. The question is, where to go from here. you are either like me and believe in the equality of citizenry or you don't

Take one policy area and analyse it in terms if equality.
I'll take language as but one example. While on-reserve schools are underfunded 2,000 to 3,000 CAD per student each year, Canada (Federal and Provincial governments combined) spent 2.4 billion in the 2006 fiscal year to fulfill the linguistic obligations of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

So, do you support cutting the linguistic subsidies to the English and the French?

 

[Cannuck]

Take one policy area and analyse it in terms if equality.
I'll take language as but one example. While on-reserve schools are underfunded 2,000 to 3,000 CAD per student each year, Canada (Federal and Provincial governments combined) spent 2.4 billion in the 2006 fiscal year to fulfill the linguistic obligations of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

So, do you support cutting the linguistic subsidies to the English and the French?

Education is a provincial jurisdiction. Aboriginal schools should fall under provincial school boards and be funded to the same levels as every other school. As to the government sudsidizing language, no. If I'm inclined to learn another language, I can just as easily do it without the governments help. As far as "linguistic obligations" of the Charter, I'm in favour of using the notwithstanding clause and have Alberta unilingual.

 

[Machjo]

Education is a provincial jurisdiction. Aboriginal schools should fall under provincial school boards and be funded to the same levels as every other school. As to the government sudsidizing language, no. If I'm inclined to learn another language, I can just as easily do it without the governments help. As far as "linguistic obligations" of the Charter, I'm in favour of using the notwithstanding clause and have Alberta unilingual.

If Alberta were serious about reconciliation, it would use the notwithstanding clause to make itself monolingual Why should Alberta's indigenous peoples be subsidizing French in Alberta when they'return struggling to keep their own languages alive Some of that money could go to services in ASL instead.

 

[Locutus]

flossy and his impotent little scotty evil threads remind me of waldo trying to start his stihl chain vacuum.

 

[Cannuck]

If Alberta were serious about reconciliation, it would use the notwithstanding clause to make itself monolingual Why should Alberta's indigenous peoples be subsidizing French in Alberta when they'return struggling to keep their own languages alive Some of that money could go to services in ASL instead.

Why are the aboriginals different from anybody else. Do you you think there arent people in Alberta from all over the world that want to keep their language alive? Do you expect taxpayers to support Dutch groups and German groups as well. I understand language is a big thing for you but for most people it's just a way to communicate and English works very well in Alberta. If populations make it economically viable and necessary, I have no problem teaching Baghati, Arabic or Croatian. It's simply an economic issue with me. If it made economic sense to make Mandarin the official language (that day will come) and only provide schooling in that language, I'm all for it.

 

[Machjo]

Why are the aboriginals different from anybody else. Do you you think there arent people in Alberta from all over the world that want to keep their language alive? Do you expect taxpayers to support Dutch groups and German groups as well. I understand language is a big thing for you but for most people it's just a way to communicate and English works very well in Alberta. If populations make it economically viable and necessary, I have no problem teaching Baghati, Arabic or Croatian. It's simply an economic issue with me. If it made economic sense to make Mandarin the official language (that day will come) and only provide schooling in that language, I'm all for it.

I didn't prppose increasing Alberta funding for indigenous languages, but cutting it for French so as to put it on an equal footing with them. This would lower taxes that indigenous Albertans could then use towards their languages just as the Franco-Albertans could do the same. Why should Franco-Albertans enjoy a right indigenous Albertans don't?

Language policy determines who will have access to the economic resources of the country, whether jobs in government, education, or otherwise.

 

[mentalfloss]

flossy and his impotent little scotty evil threads remind me of waldo trying to start his stihl chain vacuum.

Couldn't help but laugh at the 'I smell like I sound' underneath that post.

 

[EagleSmack]

Put racist in your title and all the racists migrate to it. Funny how that works eh.

And here you are!

 

[taxslave]

That's an unfair characterization Cannuck.

No he is actually right. Other than some contractual obligations that we need to buy our way out of.

 

[mentalfloss]

Is that how you justify your racism?

 

[petros]

Is he a racist? Are you using the WTO definition?

 

[mentalfloss]

Don't worry, I'm sure you are too. :lol: