Violence Against Whom???

Dixie Cup

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What I'm wondering is how we could have prevented this? Seriously, in retrospect, unless this man reached out and asked for help, how would we (society/police/medical people) know he would do this? Do we know if he "reached out" and was denied services for whatever supposedly "ailed" him?


Its all well and good to say we need to look at positive solutions to abuse and domestic violence but how do we know its happening unless someone tells us? How can we be proactive and actually (physically) do something if those who are abused or involved in domestic violence don't say anything? Society can use all the educational tools and TV/newspaper ads 'til kingdom come but unless people actually report, reach out, talk - SAY something about going through either issue, there's not a damn thing "we" can do about it and lives will be lost. All we can do is try to be aware when something doesn't seem right, especially with children. Even then often the people who should know better (i.e. social workers and others with authority) often miss-read or don't take the action they should due to "political correctness" and kids still die.


It's a terrible situation be it male or female, adult or child, and unless we have ESP, these things will continue to happen.


JMHO


PS: To say that the mental health portion of our health system is underfunded is an understatement - big time!
 

Blackleaf

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It's like those feminists in South Africa who keep marching past the High Court in Pretoria whenever Oscar Pistorius is in it, holding up placards demanding an end to violence against women. These women mustn't realise that violence against men is a far bigger problem in this world than violence against women, with men far more likely than women to be victims of violence. Yet even though men make up the vast majority of victims of violence, we never have protesters taking to the streets demanding an end to violence against men, and we never have high profile national or international initiatives campaigning against violence to men.
 

Jinentonix

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If that misogynistic , Marc Lepine hadn't pulled the trigger, some lovely ladies would still be alive today. Designing and building bridges, houses, contributing to society, having kids - a life.

Thanks to that sick fukker we lost all those people AND had to endure the knee jerk reaction which gave us years of long gun registration which did nothing to prevent anything. It did however, cost a bundle.
Ironically, during the great left-wing orgy of firearm banning and restrictions that followed, the model of firearm that Lepine used is still legally available for purchase in Canada.
 

AnnaG

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We could make it easier for people to ask for help.
How? Picking up a phone and dialing for them?

It's like those feminists in South Africa who keep marching past the High Court in Pretoria whenever Oscar Pistorius is in it, holding up placards demanding an end to violence against women. These women mustn't realise that violence against men is a far bigger problem in this world than violence against women, with men far more likely than women to be victims of violence. Yet even though men make up the vast majority of victims of violence, we never have protesters taking to the streets demanding an end to violence against men, and we never have high profile national or international initiatives campaigning against violence to men.
I agree that violence against men is more prevalent. But that violence is almost entirely acted out by MEN against men.
Perhaps people do not specifically protest about violence against men but people DO protest against violence.
 

JLM

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The other assumption is that some man had it in for women and this comes
from a few serious cases like the one in Montreal some years ago.
Society really has to look at the root causes for murder rather than whether its a case
of men killing women or the other way around.

I suppose the emphasis is more on women because they are perceived to be the weaker gender and in most cases probably are and hence less able to defend themselves. But yeah, it's all bad!