Canada's Federal Election 2015: The Official Thread

IdRatherBeSkiing

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People on fb and tweeters are pulling out the Greece card now lol

The curmudgeons will continue to dig their graves and wriggle in them well beyond their passing.

Conservatives will need to significantly transform that party or it will just be the NDP and Liberals trading places to lead.

The NDP is dead. They shot their wad and will remain as dead as Layton.

We shall see. I think we have a good starting point so it is unlikely we will be Greece in just 4 years. But you never know. Never underestimate what Justine can do.
 

JLM

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The NDP is dead. They shot their wad and will remain as dead as Layton.

We shall see. I think we have a good starting point so it is unlikely we will be Greece in just 4 years. But you never know. Never underestimate what Justine can do.

Are they in any worse shape now than Liberals were in after last election? ("A week is a long time in Politics")
 

mentalfloss

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The Conservatives are beating the NDP right now.

Yes, and?

Like I said, the progressives know the strategy to defeat the Conservatives now. When one goes down, you strategically vote for the other because both platforms can look equally appealing.

This will only become a more pronounced problem for them if we move to proportional representation.


And let's not forget that the Liberals had the same amount of seats as the NDP do now and they just won an incredible majority.


There is a newer, younger voter segment that the Conservatives will need to appeal to or they will be toast every election.
 

Machjo

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Yes, she is, Machjo. She's especially done a lot for seniors and veterans. I have voted for her since she first ran.

Sounds like the kind of candidate I'd vote for. Maybe the Conservatives who keep their seats this election will be the good ones who could then build a solid foundation for next election while showing their ability to work with other parties in the House.
 

Machjo

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Yes, and?

Like I said, the progressives know the strategy to defeat the Conservatives now. When one goes down, you strategically vote for the other because both platforms can look equally appealing.

This will only become a more pronounced problem for them if we move to proportional representation.


And let's not forget that the Liberals had the same amount of seats as the NDP do now and they just won an incredible majority.


There is a newer, younger voter segment that the Conservatives will need to appeal to or they will be toast every election.

The two were radically different. Harper was tax and spend, Trudeau borrow and spend.
 

lone wolf

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I think they (the Cons) should go back to being small 'C' instead of the regressives they became with Mulroney and amplified through Harpie.

NDP will recover. They've been beat worse
 

IdRatherBeSkiing

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Yes, and?

Like I said, the progressives know the strategy to defeat the Conservatives now. When one goes down, you strategically vote for the other because both platforms can look equally appealing.

This will only become a more pronounced problem for them if we move to proportional representation.

I think this was more of a complete NDP collapse than strategic voting. With the NDP vote gone, their voters would not really be expected to jump Conservative so they went Liberal. Also, what little strategic voting happens usually will be to get a sitting government out rather than preventing one from forming. And who knows what will happen in 4 years. I suspect Canada will have a strong appetite for change by then.

Won't happen in my lifetime! :)

Wasn't it one of Justine's promises? I am sure it will be quickly enacted into law.
 

lone wolf

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Stephen is stepping down and asked that an interim leader be appointed.
Yeah ... I just heard him praising up his "conservative values" and felt like throwing up. There is nothing of family value or humane compassion in today's "conservative values". That's why I dumped the party in the phoney Mulroney era....

But he neglected to announce the resignation the Party announced
 

Kreskin

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Does this election mean there will be no more eating puppys for breakfast at 24 Sussex Drive?
 

mentalfloss

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I think this was more of a complete NDP collapse than strategic voting. With the NDP vote gone, their voters would not really be expected to jump Conservative so they went Liberal. Also, what little strategic voting happens usually will be to get a sitting government out rather than preventing one from forming. And who knows what will happen in 4 years. I suspect Canada will have a strong appetite for change by then.

As I've said before, this happened because lever started to lean in favour of one of the progressive parties and that's what people strategically went with to defeat Harper.

And it's Harper's own fault really.

There was no reason he had to be divisive on the niqab or with refugees, for instance.

Canada does not want social conservatism and that's why they will pick one of the other two parties if Conservatives try that tactic again.