Stephen Harper waging phony jihad on the niqab

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I predict that, once again, I'm not going to get an answer to my question. What do "Canadians do?" What are "Canadian values?"

However, on the theory that everyone should do what the majority of Canadians do, I advocate banning all languages other than English, all religions other than Protestantism, all political parties other than the Conservatives, and all hairstyles except the crew cut and the bob. It goes without saying, of course, that beards, moustaches, and coloring hair must be forbidden, because they can obscure a person's identity.

Right.

The point about this is that no amount a majority appeal will change the court decision.

This is effectively $300,000 to buy some votes.
 

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That has to be one of the stupidest responses ever. Law Enforcement covers their face for many reasons... protecting their identity so criminals do not retaliate against individual law enforcement officers.

Some officers also work undercover.

Look what happen recently in the USA..

KILL LIST: ISIS posts photos, names, addresses of US soldiers, “Theres gonna be attack this month on soldiers in America” | Pamela Geller

As far as the niqab, there should be total separation of Church and State.. no religious garments or items in Government ID. Everyone treated equally, end of discussion.

Historic Move: Mexico Introduces Separation of Church and State
 

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That has to be one of the stupidest responses ever. Law Enforcement covers their face for many reasons... protecting their identity so criminals do not retaliate against individual law enforcement officers.

Some officers also work undercover.

Look what happen recently in the USA..

KILL LIST: ISIS posts photos, names, addresses of US soldiers, “Theres gonna be attack this month on soldiers in America” | Pamela Geller

As far as the niqab, there should be total separation of Church and State.. no religious garments or items in Government ID. Everyone treated equally, end of discussion.

Historic Move: Mexico Introduces Separation of Church and State

I posted a similar answer to that meme of his before, but I think he has me on ignore :lol:
 

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Or someone's stupidity is just tht gret or his trolling skills re wek and he relies on repeating the same troll over and over.
 

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Why don't we postpone the discussion of this sh*t until AFTER the election?

Cause after the erection flossy is going to start 15000 threads on how Harper cheated to get his new majority.


THere is no divide and conquer. Harper is simply doing what is right and best for all Canadians. Can you immagine the uproar when someone wears a balaclava into the bank?
 

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Well, yea I guess in some ironic way we can thank him for increasing the number of people who are more tolerant of the niqab.

In that respect, thanks Harper.
 

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Yes, money that is spent on continuously losing court cases is well spent.

No wonder people don't believe Harper.
 

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There is growing consensus that the niqab issue has backfired and that's what is causing Harper's decline.

A key tactical problem for the Tories was that the apparent popularity of Harper’s stance on the niqab in Quebec tended to hurt Mulcair, who stood firmly in favour of the right of women to wear face coverings, eroding the NDP’s strong standing in the polls in the province.

“What’s actually happened is the Conservatives thought they had a wedge issue they could win on that has probably backfired and caused their defeat,” Coletto said. “It weakened the New Democrats in Quebec, made it clear to voters outside Quebec that the NDP can’t win, and that accelerated a consolidation of change voters around the Liberals.”

Those so-called change voters are key to Trudeau’s strong position going into Monday’s vote. Among the 60 per cent of those responding to Abacus’s survey who said it’s definitely time for a change in Ottawa, 49 per cent intended to vote Liberal, and only 33 per cent NDP.


Abacus poll probes what Canadian voters care most about
 

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Niqab bans in Canada



After France passed legislation in 2004 banning hijabs or headscarves in schools and then in 2011 banning the burqua (a full body covering revealing only a woman's eyes) from being worn in any public space, discussion amongst activists has come to a boil about what is reasonable accommodation in Canada.

The latest example is Conservative Minister Jason Kenney's new provision that a niqab (a veil that covers a woman's face) cannot be worn when new immigrants are being sworn in as citizens. This isn't the first time Canada has decided women should not wear the niqab.

Bill 94

In Quebec, it is legally required that women must remove their niqab when dealing with the government, whether a woman is accessing services or working for them. The bill has garnered criticism among wearers of the niqab and feminists alike who say that banning the niqab takes away the agency and choice from the woman. The bill has been attributed with increasing intolerance in Quebec towards women who wear the niqab.

N.S and the niqab

Currently the Supreme Court is considering whether women should have to remove their niqabs to testify. N.S, a Muslim woman in her 30s, alleges that she was sexually abused as a child by her uncle and cousins. She refused to remove her niqab to testify, a choice that was upheld as her right under the Charter by the lower Ontario courts. However, lawyers argue that they cannot properly read a person without seeing their face thus obstructing justice. The Supreme Court decision could force women who wear the niqab to remove them while on the stand, adding more barriers to women of colour reporting domestic abuse, sexual violence and other crimes.

Consequences of bans

The biggest argument for banning facial veils is that they conceal identities and oppress women. Really, what these bans do is refuse reasonable accommodation to specific women based on their cultural and religious beliefs while stripping them of their fundamental ability to choose what they want to wear. Many women happily show their faces to any government officials who wish to verify their identity, but balk at the notion that the government can impose on women what articles of clothing are oppressive and make them illegal.

Niqab bans in Canada | rabble.ca

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Burka-wearing teens charged in north-end bank robbery - Toronto - CBC News

Burkas worn by robbers in $500K Toronto jewelry store heist - Toronto - CBC News

 

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More fear mongering.

But hey, keep talking about this instead of the economy.

It's doing wonders for Harper lol
 

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There is growing consensus that the niqab issue has backfired and that's what is causing Harper's decline.
I not so sure. What I do know is that many of the Harper fans were spouting hate on Facebook a while back. Normal people started pointing out and ridiculing the nonsense and it has, for the most part, disappeared. I think the Harper fans are still fearful and full of hate but they've been a lot more quiet lately. I think it actually helps the Conservatives when nutters like Boomer (and others) clam up
 

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I not so sure. What I do know is that many of the Harper fans were spouting hate on Facebook a while back. Normal people started pointing out and ridiculing the nonsense and it has, for the most part, disappeared. I think the Harper fans are still fearful and full of hate but they've been a lot more quiet lately. I think it actually helps the Conservatives when nutters like Boomer (and others) clam up

Yeah like a few Libtards here are going to make the cut and change the tide of the Canadian election... don't flatter yourself dipper.