Hey, I'm a pedophile, but not a monster

Tecumsehsbones

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next you'll be saying you hate Barry Manilow. geez.


 

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Once we labelled homosexuality as 'natural' and genetically dictated.. it's not surprising that other forms of patholigical entrenched sexual immaturity and predatory and sociopathic impulses.. simply become another 'orientation'.. rather than a debilitating psychosis of imminent threat to potential victims.
 
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Once we labelled homosexuality as 'natural' and genetically dictated.. it's not surprising that other forms of entrenched sexual immaturity and predatory impulses.. simply become another 'orientation'.. rather than a debilitating, neurotic pathology.
How 'bout you look after your dick, and I'll look after mine?

Don't need you, or the cops, or the legislature, to tell me what to do and not to do with it.
 

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Being sexually attracted to children does not make you a paedophile.
Perhaps not on your planet.

Once we labelled homosexuality as 'natural' and genetically dictated.. it's not surprising that other forms of patholigical entrenched sexual immaturity and predatory impulses.. simply become another 'orientation'.. rather than a debilitating psychosis of imminent threat to potential victims.
What IS actually pathological is bigotry on a scale like yours.
And labeling something to be exactly what it IS is science. And homosexuality still does not appear to be genetic but there is a preponderance of evidence that it IS epigenetic (meaning that it begins in the womb). THAT is science. What you spew is 12th century, religious spookism (or commonly referred to as Inquisition).
 
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How is his guilt misplaced?

I said "maybe"- meaning a feeling of guilt when he isn't guilty of anything! :)

Perhaps not on your planet.

What IS actually pathological is bigotry on a scale like yours.
And labeling something to be exactly what it IS is science. And homosexuality still does not appear to be genetic but there is a preponderance of evidence that it IS epigenetic (meaning that it begins in the womb). THAT is science. What you spew is 12th century, religious spookism (or commonly referred to as Inquisition).

What does the law say about this? I have no idea, but I would guess it's the same as if you have strong desires in your head to murder someone but have never acted on it. I would doubt if you could classify the guy as a murderer. I suppose he may be classified as a potential murderer.
 

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Pedophilia is an orientation like gay, straight, etc. If you have desires for gay sex or straight sex, that means you are gay or straight no matter if you're a virgin or not.
 

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Perhaps not on your planet.

What IS actually pathological is bigotry on a scale like yours.
And labeling something to be exactly what it IS is science. And homosexuality still does not appear to be genetic but there is a preponderance of evidence that it IS epigenetic (meaning that it begins in the womb). THAT is science. What you spew is 12th century, religious spookism (or commonly referred to as Inquisition).


Nonsense.. homosexuality, and pedophilia are solely willful acts.. with behavioural antecedents.. but profoundly unnatural and unhealthy.. making them pathologies. Your science is bunk.. an outcome of the subordination of science to political and philosophical agendas (homosexuality, AGW, cosmology).. which if you have read Spengler's Decline of the West.. is a sure indicator of a civilization in an advanced state of dissolution.

Homosexuality will always be immoral, and an affront to God, nature and reason.. an idol of pride, of complete self absorption over faith.
 
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Nonsense.. homosexuality, and pedophilia are solely willful acts.. with behavioural antecedents.. but profoundly unnatural and unhealthy.. making them pathologies. Your science is bunk.. an outcome of the subordination of science to political and philosophical agendas (homosexuality, AGW, cosmology).. which if you have read Spengler's Decline of the West.. is a sure indicator of a civilization in an advanced state of dissolution.
My science is bunk? Prove it.
Wrong, as usual, Inquisitor. And how would you know anyways? You don't (or can't) even use science as it seems you haven't even a clue what science is.
Spengler? Spengler had opinions. Big deal.Most people have opinions. And personal opinion seems to be the ONLY thing you have.

Homosexuality will always be immoral, and an affront to God, nature and reason.. an idol of pride, of complete self absorption over faith.
I couldn't give two hoots about your god and religion. If it exists, it obviously doesn't care about the humans you think it created or it would fix the mess it created (or at least allowed to occur).

Spengler's opinion is a century old. And even if he was right and the western world is declining, so what? What will replace it? I'd guess the best bet these days is Islam. But if that replaces western society, I am pretty damned sure it won't be the extremist Islam and even the moderate type would change.
 

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But if that replaces western society, I am pretty damned sure it won't be the
extremist Islam and even the moderate type will change

Well if you replace Christian Justice with Sharia Law.. which could well happen in a collapsed West.. you'll find it much less sympathetic to the homosexual cause.. with its predilection for lopping off offending body parts.

And it's you who seems to have nary a clue of what real science is.. confusing it with psuedo occult system that now poses as science throughout the West. .
 

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Well if you replace Christian Justice with Sharia Law.. which could well happen in a collapsed West.. you'll find it much less sympathetic to the homosexual cause.. with its predilection for lopping off offending body parts.
Erm, REAL justice does not have a religion in the first place. And as I said, IF Islam is the next lead society, the odds are it will not be the same as any existing Islam. I'd bet it would be a softer one. It happened before and history has a tendency to repeat. Christianity used to be unbending, draconian, and have archaic ideas and habits, too. It softened.

And it's you who seems to have nary a clue of what real science is.. confusing it with psuedo occult system that now poses as science throughout the West. .
Like I said, prove it that my science is bunk. If you won't or can't, then gibbering on with your opinion is futile and rather stupid, right?
 

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Erm, REAL justice does not have a religion in the first place. And as I said, IF Islam is the next lead society, the odds are it will not be the same as any existing Islam. I'd bet it would be a softer one. It happened before and history has a tendency to repeat. Christianity used to be unbending, draconian, and have archaic ideas and habits, too. It softened.

Like I said, prove it that my science is bunk. If you won't or can't, then gibbering on with your opinion is futile and rather stupid, right?

Right, Anna! :)

I don't see where there is a hell of lot to argue about on this subject except for semantics. If a person has not broken any law he is not a criminal and can't be charged with any crime, regardless of what you choose to call him! :) :)
 

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Bless the beasts and the children. give them shelter from the storm. Keep them safe, keep them warm. ~ Karen Carpenter


Being sexually attracted to children does not make one a monster. You can't help who you are attracted to. Being sexually attratced to a child of the opposite sex is much less wrong than being homosexual.

And whereas being a nufter does not necessarily mean you're going to shag another bloke, being sexually attracted to children does not mean you are going to break consent laws (artificial human constructs that nature never intended to exist) and shag a child.
 

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Being sexually attracted to children does not make one a monster. You can't help who you are attracted to. Being sexually attratced to a child of the opposite sex is much less wrong than being homosexual.

And whereas being a nufter does not necessarily mean you're going to shag another bloke, being sexually attracted to children does not mean you are going to break consent laws (artificial human constructs that nature never intended to exist) and shag a child.

Have you thought about getting your head looked at?
 

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Have you thought about getting your head looked at?


I don't need to. I'm just saying it as it is. A person is no more to blame for his or her being being sexually attracted to children as a man is for being sexually attracted to other men. Or, if you believe a person is to blame for themselves being sexually attracted to children then, to prevent hypocrisy, a person is also to blame for themselves being sexually attracted to a person of the same gender.

Also, being sexually attracted to children is not as bad as being sexually attracted to people of the same gender. In order to procreate, nature didn't intend humans to shag other members of the same gender, but it did intend humans to shag people of the opposite gender - and nature didn't put in arbitrary age of consent limits (which actually differ from country to country so are a load of old bollocks). Such a thing wasn't intended by nature and, in fact, an adult human shagging a 12 year old is entirely natural. It's only modern humans' (and it IS a modern thing, only the last 100 years or so) unexplained abhorrence at such a thing which has created such arbitrary age limits.
 

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I don't need to. I'm just saying it as it is. A person is no more to blame for his or her being being sexually attracted to children as a man is for being sexually attracted to other men. Or, if you believe a person is to blame for themselves being sexually attracted to children then, to prevent hypocrisy, a person is also to blame for themselves being sexually attracted to a person of the same gender.

Also, being sexually attracted to children is not as bad as being sexually attracted to people of the same gender. In order to procreate, nature didn't intend humans to shag other members of the same gender, but it did intend humans to shag people of the opposite gender - and nature didn't put in arbitrary age of consent limits (which actually differ from country to country so are a load of old bollocks). Such a thing wasn't intended by nature and, in fact, an adult human shagging a 12 year old is entirely natural. It's only modern humans' (and it IS a modern thing, only the last 100 years or so) unexplained abhorrence at such a thing which has created such arbitrary age limits.

It was the statement in red that I objected to. I read somewhere that about 5% of the population being queer is a natural occurrence and as far as procreating is concerned many heteros "shag" and don't procreate. Anyway it's time you had your head looked at.