Saudi M1 Abrams Tank Cook Off

AnnaG

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I was pointing out that you aren't very good at determining what makes me tick so don't give up your day job. Just because the emoticon is missing doesn't mean it is void of humor.
Now back to your regular programming.
Well, often it is next to impossible for people to figure out what you are saying, let alone whether you are joking or serious.

No tv service here, sorry.

Galbraith said something to the effect that "war remains the ultimate human failure". He was right, as usual.

BTW, Cliffy, I love being crazy. It makes for a fun life.
 

darkbeaver

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I love watching people talk shop, when they've obviously never been in one, lol.

I stubbed a cigarette out on the fender of a T 64 in Gagetown. I think I know all about tanks.
 

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Well, often it is next to impossible for people to figure out what you are saying, let alone whether you are joking or serious.

No tv service here, sorry.

Galbraith said something to the effect that "war remains the ultimate human failure". He was right, as usual.

BTW, Cliffy, I love being crazy. It makes for a fun life.
Oh, it is impossible to not be crazy in this crazy world, but some people are in denial about their crazy. Some people actually think they are normal or worse yet, sane.
 

darkbeaver

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Made in Russia: The Best Tank in the World is Twice Cheaper than Competition


September 21, 2015

Anton Orlovsky

Politikus.ru

Translated by Kristina Rus


Creating the world's first tank of the new generation, Russia has rightfully gained the title of the world leader in tank manufacturing. Many of the technical solutions of the T-14 on the basis of "Armata" are used for the first time in practice, in particular, a desert tower, which is unattainable to Western designers. But the price of this unique Russian tank was a mystery.

The general director of "Uralvagonzavod" Oleg Sienko announced the price that just 'killed' foreign experts and inspired domestic. New T-14 on the basis of "Armata" will cost us only 250 million rubles, equal to 3.7-3.8 million dollars. This is while the notorious M1 Abrams costs about $7 million. It turns out that our tank will be twice cheaper then its foreign counterpart and incomparably more efficient.

For example, just for the compensation from the termination of Mistral contract we can build more than 350 of the latest T-14. Imagine what such an armada of tanks can do to the tanks of the perceived enemy, if the best, up to this point, tank in the world, the German "Leopard" doesn't even have shells to penetrate the armor of the T-14...

Dominance on land, water and air passes into our hands (take the T-50 (PAK FA) and the new Russian submarines), causing all of our potential enemies to feverishly reconsider their policy. Now the US is thinking about a dialogue with us.

Our designers have created the best tank in the world at a very low price which is characteristic. Russia has always been famous for its quality weapons at a good price, in contrast to expensive American, unreliable, intended for greenhouse conditions and parquet. Thus, the T-14 is another confirmation of this rule and not the exception.
 

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Maybe they should buy Canadian tanks.
We do.
This is a Canadian tank.


For heavier thanks, Canada and most of our allies buy German tanks.
Maybe, too many of them have owned American cars.



Imagine ... the Germans ... what could THEY possibly know out designing tanks?

What was it they used to call the old Sherman?

...the Tommy cooker!
 

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It has replaced the light tank. In this day and age of air mobility, you are pretty likely to see LAVs but I'll bet that the light tank is long done.

Whatever.
Translation: You're right, EagleSmack, it's not a tank. But I claimed it is, and seeing as how I'm constitutionally incapable of admitting it when I'm wrong, I'll lay down a load of bullsh*t and then pretend indifference.
 

darkbeaver

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We do.
This is a Canadian tank.
For heavier thanks, Canada and most of our allies buy German tanks.
Maybe, too many of them have owned American cars.



Imagine ... the Germans ... what could THEY possibly know out designing tanks?

What was it they used to call the old Sherman?

...the Tommy cooker!

That's a very nice tank.
 

Curious Cdn

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Translation: You're right, EagleSmack, it's not a tank. But I claimed it is, and seeing as how I'm constitutionally incapable of admitting it when I'm wrong, I'll lay down a load of bullsh*t and then pretend indifference.

Here come the obnoxious Yank trolls, again. There goes another interesting thread.

Aren't there any American Content forums out there or did they have to shut them down because of the thousands of obnoxius trolls?

No class,Yank.
 

darkbeaver

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Here come the obnoxious Yank trolls, again. There goes another interesting thread.

Aren't there any American Content forums out there or did they have to shut them down because of the thousands of obnoxius trolls?

No class,Yank.

Well it has rattled on for a century as to it's unique classlessness. So why are we always shocked at thier course and impolite theatrics?
 

Tecumsehsbones

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Here come the obnoxious Yank trolls, again. There goes another interesting thread.

Aren't there any American Content forums out there or did they have to shut them down because of the thousands of obnoxius trolls?

No class,Yank.
If anyone needed any further evidence Curious is incapable of admitting a factual error. . .
 

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Russia's T-14 Tank Can Outshoot America's by Miles


Russia's next-generation main battle tank can fire an anti-tank missile at targets more than seven miles away. That gives the T-14 Armata tank, set to begin testing with the Russian Army in 2019, nearly twice the range of the America's latest version of the venerable Abrams, the M1A2 SEP V3. Whether this extended range is all the useful is another matter.

The T-14 is a formidable-looking beast. Armed with a new 125-millimeter main gun, an unmanned turret, modular armor, and an active protection system designed to shoot down incoming missiles, the vehicle has caused a stir within NATO's tank community. One particularly dangerous feature is the Armata's ability to destroy targets at ranges of up to 12 kilometers, or 7.4 miles.

For years, Russia has armed its tanks with laser-guided missiles that can be fired from the main gun. The first generation missile, the 9M112 Kobra HEAT, was installed on the T-80 tank. Kobra had a range of 4 kilometers, or 2.5 miles, and could penetrate up to 700 millimeters of armor. The current missile, the 9M119 Reflecks, has a range of 3.1 miles and can penetrate up to 900 millimeters of armor.

Here's the Reflecks in action:

Russian T-14 Tanks Get Anti-Tank Missile With 7-Mile Range