I suppose the good Cpl was over there to hand out roses and daffodils.
Obtained under duress, but that's ok. I know you and your ilk just came all over yourselves when that happened.
Alberta granted Omar Khadr bail
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I suppose the good Cpl was over there to hand out roses and daffodils.
Obtained under duress, but that's ok. I know you and your ilk just came all over yourselves when that happened.
Nope- every major murder attracts a dozen crackpot confessions, not counting the ones that are coerced into confessing. You remember that mass murder of a family near Seattle about 15 years ago? Well now they are looking into re opening the case as one of the accused was coerced by the cops into confessing. I think the days of that sh*t are coming to an end.
If by roses and daffodils you mean provide medical attention, then yes, Speer was doing exactly that
yabut, yabut, we don't know beyond a reasonable doubt that he was under duress.... That seems to be the necessary standard
The 14 & 15 year old German boys were German. If those were 14 & 15 year old Canadian boys killing Americans & Canadians I would have the same issue. In my mind Omar is a traitor and a terrorist (by the common use of the term today).
I believe his original sentence was 8 years so he is probably eligible for parole. Not sure why he was granted bail which has less conditions. I certainly do not believe his some hero / model citizen that JLM seems to be portraying him as though.
I think water boarding qualifies as coercion.
I don't know anything beyond a shadow of a doubt any more than you do!
You do know that just because the confession is coerced doesn't mean it is not accurate correct? But I think you could see Omar or any thug blow somebody away right in front of you and find a way to blame it on the cops who arrived 5 minutes later or anybody but the guy with the gun. Perhaps you would lament about his kids, his wife or his mental health.
I never portrayed him as a model citizen, just as a person who has a chance at success if given a chance! Do you want to deny him that chance?
I think water boarding qualifies as coercion.
I don't know anything beyond a shadow of a doubt any more than you do!
Interesting... All of the supposition in the world qualifies as fact when you support the contention, but the second the issue is one you don't support, it's 'beyond a shadow of doubt' and confessions aren't real because of blah, blah, blah.
Why bother having trials at all?... You seem to have all of the critical knowledge.. You should just pass judgement on any and all legal issues
Khadr denied Cpl Speer his life... Denied his parents their son and denied his wife her husband
I don't think he is a hero either, but I also don't think he deserves to be insulted soo much and I think he paid his dues by now. I know what it's like being shat upon because I'm on disability benefits at the moment and apparently a "parasite" and some people can't seem to realize that a developmental disability is as valid as a physical one, the visible vs invisible thing again.
I think there's some people out there who just feel a need to sht on someone more than they deserve or paint someone as something they are not, because it makes them feel better somehow.
Having said that,
What I know about the Khadar case is that, his confession is questioanble and no one knows for sure whether he did anything or not. Also, he was brainwashed and was a kid, so I wouldn't hold him fully responsible for his actions at that point in time.
You appear to have a good handle on the situation.
In your opinion- that's your perfect right!
His dear old dad and mom should have been hung from the flagpole for treason. His daddy fortunately is dead. But Omar is still responsible for his actions.
I am not sure how any of the other stuff has anything to do with Omar. I certainly would not equate you with Omar at all.
And the opinion of the court which sentenced him. But you have your rite to worship murderers and terrorists. We live in a free country no matter how much Omar and his ilk want to change that.
It was, what I now realize is a failed attempt to try and emphasize with what Omar must feel hearing/reading some of the sht people say about him.
If he did it when he was an adult - I'd say death penalty (if we had that), but since he did it as a kid, I am having trouble condemning him all that much.
Had they just shot him properly in the first place we wouldn't be having this conversation and one Hell of a basket of tax dollars would've been saved but no.....they had to be a professional soldiers and save the guy trying to kill them.