Steve Goddard @SteveSGoddard
Four meter thick ice in the Beaufort Sea, will present little challenge for intrepid Northwest Passage adventurers
Fort Collins, CO
Impossible... The North has been ice free since 2013
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Impossible... The North has been ice free since 2013
No the pine beetle killed the don't you remember . t got so warm those pesky little bugs kept growing and growing .
chuckleheads-R-Us, hey! Do you actually know the impact the pine-beetle has had on western provinces/states? Would you like graphic presentations of that damage... of the geographic range extent of that damage? As scientific projections have the beetle expanding its geographic range, moving into the boreal forest and Canada’s northern and eastern pine forests... will you be just as cavalier and dismissive as you appear to be here in your quoted posts?
Are you going to supply us with graphs on yet another subject you know nothing about?
Other than waldo people are denying the arctic is ice free for the last two years.
Once all the trees are gone, so is the beetle and think how rich the soil will be afterwards with all that bio-mass. Any chance the trees are longing for refreshed soil and have become weakened and susceptible to blue stain? Is blue stain natures way of clearing out the weak to make way for renewal?
Nah, nature doesn't do that does it?
Scientists saying science-y stuff. LALALALALA
Forest Insect
& Disease
Leaflet 1
U.S. Department
of Agriculture
Forest Service
Usually, the beetles breed in and kill scattered, overmature, slow-growing, decadent, or diseased trees and trees weakened by stand stagnation, lightning, fire, or mechanical injury. This tree mortality need not be a loss, but may be considered part of the normal ecological process of succession through which a forest matures and replaces itself. Some of the trees killed under these conditions, however, may be on residential or recreation sites. These highly prized trees are often impossible to replace and expensive to remove.
:mrgreen: of course, downplay the pine-beetle damage and dismiss it as simply "nature's way"! Cause... it's just like forest-fire rejuvenation! Oh my!
and ya taxi... there's a lot of graphs that show the geographic range expansion of the pine-beetle... as well as projections into the boreal forest and eastern Canadian pine forests. Given your oft displayed graph phobia I don't think you can handle them!
and ya taxi... there's a lot of graphs that show the geographic range expansion of the pine-beetle... as well as projections into the boreal forest and eastern Canadian pine forests. Given your oft displayed graph phobia I don't think you can handle them!
I never knew you had concerns for the commercial forest industries. I'm sure they appreciate your support.
Jury's out on the pine beetle infestation. This outbreak is the latest of many, going back eons, I'm sure. This appears to be one of the worst in several centuries, and warmer temperatures probably have something to do with that. You need a sustained cold snap, the likes of which BC hasn't seen in about 20 years. Forest practices probably contributed to making this one worse as well--suppressing "natural" wildfires led to abundant mature pine which is goiod eatin' for the beetle.
In centuries? Going back 500 years to when it was considerably warmer than today? Sure it of concern to commercial industry but crucial to forest health. What are ya gonna do?
BTW the beetles don't kill the trees, blue stain fungus does.
BTW the beetles don't kill the trees, blue stain fungus does.
How science-y of you.
Thanks for trying though... Might find a consolation prize for ya somewhere
It probably wasn't considerably warmer than today 500 years ago. Have to go back a bit further than that. And with warming temperatures you'd expect that the biota will readjust their habitat. Lots of deer in Whitehorse these days.
yes, of course, as scientifically acknowledged, there are multiple impacting factors. Deniers, these deniers, just don't like hearing that warming is one of them.